Cubs Talking About Greene?

[haltz]

From looking at his spray chart coupled with BRef's BIP data, it seems like he hit 54% of his fly balls at home. If he put those balls on the ground it would result in like 3 more hits and one less XBH or something. Nothing that really changes his value much.

[nilodnayr]

From looking at his spray chart coupled with BRef's BIP data, it seems like he hit 54% of his fly balls at home. If he put those balls on the ground it would result in like 3 more hits and one less XBH or something. Nothing that really changes his value much.

 

But the point that was trying to be made was that a pitcher could change him from a FB hitter to a GB hitter in another park, therefore negating (to a degree) the increased value he would have in another park. Frankly, its a point I completely disagree with, but that was the point that was trying to be made. If indeed a pitcher could do that, his stats would only get very slightly better because groundballs are turned into hits more often than flyballs instead of get much better because his fly outs would be turned into HRs.

[sneakypower]

Actually, that was me, but I just provided links, one of them might have made pretty charts. And actually, once again, PETCO is destroying him this year. Hes hit a ton to the warning track that would be long gone in Wrigley. He'd probably have another 6-9 HRs in the first half alone if his home park was Wrigley.

i'd wager pitchers would approach him differently if he had a park where he showed the propensity for hitting balls into the seats. if you're pitching in the Polo Grounds (with a decent CF), you'll probably try to induce guys into hitting flyballs into CF and won't care much if they go 400+ feet. i guess i'm saying i don't completely buy that you can just pick him up and move him into Wrigley and he'll be pitched to the same way.

 

It'd be interesting to see if the SD pitchers induced more flyballs at home than they do on the road, but I don't know of anywhere where you can find splits on batted ball data. My guess is that there might be a slight slight variation, but its not like a pitcher has the ability to go from a GB pitcher to a FB pitcher or visa versa. If they DID have that ability, most likely it would come along with amazing control and a great repetoire of pitches and he'd be a ridiculously amazing pitcher regardless of what stadium hes in.

oh no i agree with that, but my argument was not that you can change your batted ball type, but in this example you're not leery of pitching him inside because he'll just flyout deep to LF anyways, whereas you'd be less liberal about pitching him there in a park with a shorter fence in left.

[RedFlash]

I think we can put the Khalil Green rumor to bed. In his latest blog, Miles is saying his Cubs sources have "emphatically" denied interests in Khalil Green. So I think we can put this rumor to bed, now.

[soapy]

I think we can put the Khalil Green rumor to bed. In his latest blog, Miles is saying his Cubs sources have "emphatically" denied interests in Khalil Green. So I think we can put this rumor to bed, now.

Yep

 

The Cubs need Theriot. He's sixth in the NL in OBP at .396, confounding all the so-called experts. You can forget about rumors that have the Cubs "interested in" San Diego Padres shortstop Khalil Greene. Cubs people say it's not true at all.

[Bruno7481]

Greene was pinch hit for last night in the top of the 9th with the tying run on second base. He was replaced by a rookie.