Bedard?

[ConstableRabbit]

But we already HAVE Bedard -- didn't you guys see Hill last year? He was just like Bedard 2 years ago!

 

-paraphrase from off-season threads. Oops!

[anabiono]

i don't know...

 

sabathia is first on the list for me...but i doubt he is happy

 

i am pumped to hear the rumors about Harden!!!!

 

burnett is next...

 

bedard...um...first i don't see it happening...and i really don't think i want it to happen either

 

i think before the deadline we will eventually be linked to almost every bloody pitcher in the league

[Amazing_Grace]

i don't know...

 

sabathia is first on the list for me...but i doubt he is happy

 

i am pumped to hear the rumors about Harden!!!!

 

burnett is next...

 

bedard...um...first i don't see it happening...and i really don't think i want it to happen either

 

i think before the deadline we will eventually be linked to almost every bloody pitcher in the league

 

We're going all out to win this year and need a pitcher, so yeah, we're gonna be interested in everyone with an arm. I wouldn't give up Gallagher and Vitters for Bedard. Gallagher and Colvin/Pie, or Vitters and Marshall/Hill possibly. He may not even be worth Gallagher straight up if Sean keeps up the pace till the break. Given the relative costs, I'd much prefer Burnett over Bedard, assuming we can't get Sabathia.

[Brett]

i don't know...

 

sabathia is first on the list for me...but i doubt he is happy

 

i am pumped to hear the rumors about Harden!!!!

 

burnett is next...

 

bedard...um...first i don't see it happening...and i really don't think i want it to happen either

 

i think before the deadline we will eventually be linked to almost every bloody pitcher in the league

 

We're going all out to win this year and need a pitcher, so yeah, we're gonna be interested in everyone with an arm. I wouldn't give up Gallagher and Vitters for Bedard. Gallagher and Colvin/Pie, or Vitters and Marshall/Hill possibly. He may not even be worth Gallagher straight up if Sean keeps up the pace till the break. Given the relative costs, I'd much prefer Burnett over Bedard, assuming we can't get Sabathia.

 

Isn't Burnett just as much of a question mark as Bedard?

[RynoRules]

" Pie is marginal "?

 

I thought this was one of Hendry's untouchables?

 

Do you ever have anything to post other than digs at the Cubs, management, etc?

 

no, which is why he hasn't been around much the past couple of months. not a lot to rip right now, what with the cubs having the best record in baseball.

 

When they hoist the Series trophy, they will get all the props they deserve.

 

Until then, the "best record in baseball" on June 21 means squat.

 

"why he hasn't been around much the past couple of months"? not that it's any of your business, but my son learned to walk so my computer time is limited.

 

Waaaay too many people take this way too seriously.

 

Oh, I get it: When the team has a losing record on June 21st then it matters, but when they have the best record in all of baseball on the same date it means nothing.

 

I hope you have some Air Jordans on, b/c you will need them to leap over that logical chasm.

[Proven Veteran]

Bedard is only concerned about picking up his paycheck, he couldn't care less about the game.

How would you know this?

 

He's pretty much come out and said it. I'm friends with a couple of O's fans and they've told me the same.

Ah gotcha...I thought you were trying to be one of those posters who pretends they can read a player's mind.

 

Normally I would roll my eyes at the "doesn't care about baseball" guesses about players, but this one seems to be true. There is an article in the last ESPN magazine with an interview of Bedard by other players, and he pretty much admits it. He also hates pitching in day games. His numbers during the day are fine, but doesn't sound like he would be happy here.

[Joe_Cub]

bedard interview: http://sports.espn.go.com/espnmag/story?id=3426985

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

bedard interview: http://sports.espn.go.com/espnmag/story?id=3426985

 

 

One of my favorite comments from that article.

 

Mariners starter Jarrod Washburn says his longest conversation with Bédard had to do with insulation.

[Amazing_Grace]

i don't know...

 

sabathia is first on the list for me...but i doubt he is happy

 

i am pumped to hear the rumors about Harden!!!!

 

burnett is next...

 

bedard...um...first i don't see it happening...and i really don't think i want it to happen either

 

i think before the deadline we will eventually be linked to almost every bloody pitcher in the league

 

We're going all out to win this year and need a pitcher, so yeah, we're gonna be interested in everyone with an arm. I wouldn't give up Gallagher and Vitters for Bedard. Gallagher and Colvin/Pie, or Vitters and Marshall/Hill possibly. He may not even be worth Gallagher straight up if Sean keeps up the pace till the break. Given the relative costs, I'd much prefer Burnett over Bedard, assuming we can't get Sabathia.

 

Isn't Burnett just as much of a question mark as Bedard?

 

Yes, you take the same risk on Burnett if not a greater one, but the price won't be as high. The Jays didn't give up their best prospects for Burnett three months ago so there's no pressure to save face. Also, they're not likely to be good anywhere in the near future so they'd be more likely to bite on high ceiling question marks and guys in the low minors like Hill, Pie, Colvin, Ceda, Veal. It also doesn't help the Jays that Burnett is having an awful year and has been dropping some pretty obvious hints he'd like to be out of Toronto.

 

If the Cubs could get any pitcher at the same cost in terms of prospects, and they were all half season rentals, my order of preference among those who have been discussed would be Sabathia, Harden, Harang, Padilla, Bedard, and Burnett. However, a lot of these guys have bad contracts and/or would cost a great deal more than they are worth in terms of risk. In terms of which player I'd like to have, Burnett is last, but the difference in all those guys isn't huge with the exception of Sabathia. They all have some upside but some risk as well. Given what they're likely to cost and their contract situations, my preference would be Sabathia (he's the best player available and the only one worth selling the farm for), Burnett, Padilla, Harang, Harden, Bedard. I'm just thinking that the M's will be under so much pressure to get as much for Bedard as they gave Baltimore, they'll ask for too much and end up either fleecing someone or standing pat.

 

As long as we're discussing the Mariners, with them being way out of it and with Fukudome being such a fan favorite, would Ichiro be interested in coming to Chicago? Would the M's be interested in dealing him?

[Larry Horse]

" Pie is marginal "?

 

I thought this was one of Hendry's untouchables?

 

Do you ever have anything to post other than digs at the Cubs, management, etc?

 

no, which is why he hasn't been around much the past couple of months. not a lot to rip right now, what with the cubs having the best record in baseball.

 

When they hoist the Series trophy, they will get all the props they deserve.

 

Until then, the "best record in baseball" on June 21 means squat.

 

"why he hasn't been around much the past couple of months"? not that it's any of your business, but my son learned to walk so my computer time is limited.

 

Waaaay too many people take this way too seriously.

 

Oh, I get it: When the team has a losing record on June 21st then it matters, but when they have the best record in all of baseball on the same date it means nothing.

 

I hope you have some Air Jordans on, b/c you will need them to leap over that logical chasm.

 

I'm not quite following your train of thought.

 

Given the Cubs track record, do you put a lot of stock in having the best record in baseball in June? Awesome start, great job, win the World Series and it will actually mean something.

 

Were you satisfied with last year's results? I mean, they did win the division.

 

I guess I've forgotten all the past success this team has had. Pardon me for being cynical.

[RynoRules]

" Pie is marginal "?

 

I thought this was one of Hendry's untouchables?

 

Do you ever have anything to post other than digs at the Cubs, management, etc?

 

no, which is why he hasn't been around much the past couple of months. not a lot to rip right now, what with the cubs having the best record in baseball.

 

When they hoist the Series trophy, they will get all the props they deserve.

 

Until then, the "best record in baseball" on June 21 means squat.

 

"why he hasn't been around much the past couple of months"? not that it's any of your business, but my son learned to walk so my computer time is limited.

 

Waaaay too many people take this way too seriously.

 

Oh, I get it: When the team has a losing record on June 21st then it matters, but when they have the best record in all of baseball on the same date it means nothing.

 

I hope you have some Air Jordans on, b/c you will need them to leap over that logical chasm.

 

I'm not quite following your train of thought.

 

Given the Cubs track record, do you put a lot of stock in having the best record in baseball in June? Awesome start, great job, win the World Series and it will actually mean something.

 

Were you satisfied with last year's results? I mean, they did win the division.

 

I guess I've forgotten all the past success this team has had. Pardon me for being cynical.

 

I get it now - the Cubs haven't won a WS in 100 yrs, so no matter how good they are, how well they play, or what the stats actually say, you think they still suck.

 

Who gives a crap how they played last season, 03', 98', 69', 45' or any other year? What does any of that have to do with the 2008 Cubs?

[Larry Horse]

" Pie is marginal "?

 

I thought this was one of Hendry's untouchables?

 

Do you ever have anything to post other than digs at the Cubs, management, etc?

 

no, which is why he hasn't been around much the past couple of months. not a lot to rip right now, what with the cubs having the best record in baseball.

 

When they hoist the Series trophy, they will get all the props they deserve.

 

Until then, the "best record in baseball" on June 21 means squat.

 

"why he hasn't been around much the past couple of months"? not that it's any of your business, but my son learned to walk so my computer time is limited.

 

Waaaay too many people take this way too seriously.

 

Oh, I get it: When the team has a losing record on June 21st then it matters, but when they have the best record in all of baseball on the same date it means nothing.

 

I hope you have some Air Jordans on, b/c you will need them to leap over that logical chasm.

 

I'm not quite following your train of thought.

 

Given the Cubs track record, do you put a lot of stock in having the best record in baseball in June? Awesome start, great job, win the World Series and it will actually mean something.

 

Were you satisfied with last year's results? I mean, they did win the division.

 

I guess I've forgotten all the past success this team has had. Pardon me for being cynical.

 

I get it now - the Cubs haven't won a WS in 100 yrs, so no matter how good they are, how well they play, or what the stats actually say, you think they still suck.

 

Who gives a crap how they played last season, 03', 98', 69', 45' or any other year? What does any of that have to do with the 2008 Cubs?

 

"Awesome start, great job," I think I was commenting on their play right there.

 

"I get it now - the Cubs haven't won a WS in 100 yrs, so no matter how good they are, how well they play, or what the stats actually say, you think they still suck."

 

You do realize that you just typed that the Cubs haven't won a World Series in 100 years and you think that Cub fans should totally disregard that unprecedented track record of failure? No, right now they don't suck, but that sure as hell doesn't mean I'm going to proclaim them World Series champs.

[RynoRules]

" Pie is marginal "?

 

I thought this was one of Hendry's untouchables?

 

Do you ever have anything to post other than digs at the Cubs, management, etc?

 

no, which is why he hasn't been around much the past couple of months. not a lot to rip right now, what with the cubs having the best record in baseball.

 

When they hoist the Series trophy, they will get all the props they deserve.

 

Until then, the "best record in baseball" on June 21 means squat.

 

"why he hasn't been around much the past couple of months"? not that it's any of your business, but my son learned to walk so my computer time is limited.

 

Waaaay too many people take this way too seriously.

 

Oh, I get it: When the team has a losing record on June 21st then it matters, but when they have the best record in all of baseball on the same date it means nothing.

 

I hope you have some Air Jordans on, b/c you will need them to leap over that logical chasm.

 

I'm not quite following your train of thought.

 

Given the Cubs track record, do you put a lot of stock in having the best record in baseball in June? Awesome start, great job, win the World Series and it will actually mean something.

 

Were you satisfied with last year's results? I mean, they did win the division.

 

I guess I've forgotten all the past success this team has had. Pardon me for being cynical.

 

I get it now - the Cubs haven't won a WS in 100 yrs, so no matter how good they are, how well they play, or what the stats actually say, you think they still suck.

 

Who gives a crap how they played last season, 03', 98', 69', 45' or any other year? What does any of that have to do with the 2008 Cubs?

 

"Awesome start, great job," I think I was commenting on their play right there.

 

"I get it now - the Cubs haven't won a WS in 100 yrs, so no matter how good they are, how well they play, or what the stats actually say, you think they still suck."

 

You do realize that you just typed that the Cubs haven't won a World Series in 100 years and you think that Cub fans should totally disregard that unprecedented track record of failure? No, right now they don't suck, but that sure as hell doesn't mean I'm going to proclaim them World Series champs.

 

The fact that this team hasn't won in 100 yrs has nothing to do with this team. The fact they lost badly in the playoffs last year has nothing to do with this team. They can't be WS champs until, you know, the playoffs actually start.

 

The truth is that you simply want to be negative about the Cubs, no matter how well they play. That's certainly your right, but when you post nitpicky crticisms based on your obvious bent you should expect the reaction you are getting.