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So does he go in as a Met or a Dodger?

 

probably the mets. piazza's indicating that was the best time of his career.

 

"But I have to say that my time with the Mets wouldn't have been the same without the greatest fans in the world. One of the hardest moments of my career, was walking off the field at Shea Stadium and saying goodbye. My relationship with you made my time in New York the happiest of my career and for that, I will always be grateful."
It's not up to Piazza, though. It's the Hall that decides.
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So does he go in as a Met or a Dodger?

 

probably the mets. piazza's indicating that was the best time of his career.

 

"But I have to say that my time with the Mets wouldn't have been the same without the greatest fans in the world. One of the hardest moments of my career, was walking off the field at Shea Stadium and saying goodbye. My relationship with you made my time in New York the happiest of my career and for that, I will always be grateful."
It's not up to Piazza, though. It's the Hall that decides.

 

that's incorrect, it's up to the player

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So does he go in as a Met or a Dodger?

 

probably the mets. piazza's indicating that was the best time of his career.

 

"But I have to say that my time with the Mets wouldn't have been the same without the greatest fans in the world. One of the hardest moments of my career, was walking off the field at Shea Stadium and saying goodbye. My relationship with you made my time in New York the happiest of my career and for that, I will always be grateful."
It's not up to Piazza, though. It's the Hall that decides.

 

that's incorrect, it's up to the player

 

That changed. Now the player gets some say, but the Hall can and has chosen differently than the players wanted. The Hall has the final say.

 

Here's a good example of that from 5 years ago. Clemens threatened to boycott his HOF ceremony if they don't put him in as a Yankee:

 

http://espn.go.com/mlb/news/2003/0615/1568234.html

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i think it's hilarious that you guys think all those guys are first ballot hall of famers

 

not that they SHOULDN'T be, but come on. look at what the voters have done recently. i'm sure a couple of those guys need to "wait a few years" or "can't be first ballot inductees because players X, Y and Z didn't make it on the first ballot"

 

The only reasons that I can think of as to why any of these players doesn't make the HOF on the first ballot are:

Bonds - Steroids

Clemens -Steroids

Sosa - speculation of steroids

Johnson - short of 300 wins

Piazza - poor defense

 

Biggio, Maddux, Martinez, Glavine, Smoltz are all cinch 1st ballot HOF.

The numbers would make all 10 of them 1st ballot HOF.

Johnson - 4653 K's (soon to be #2 all-time)

Piazza - arguably the greatest offensive catcher in the history of the game

 

 

I'm not saying I would use any of the reasons that I listed, I think those could be excuses for some sportswriters to exclude certain players. I think all 10 should make the HOF on the first ballot.

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that's incorrect, it's up to the player

 

 

They changed that when the Devil Rays tried to pay Boggs to go in with a Tampa Bay cap.

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that's incorrect, it's up to the player

 

 

They changed that when the Devil Rays tried to pay Boggs to go in with a Tampa Bay cap.

 

WRONG

 

boggs decided not to go in as a devil ray after pressure from selig's mafia henchmen

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i think it's hilarious that you guys think all those guys are first ballot hall of famers

 

not that they SHOULDN'T be, but come on. look at what the voters have done recently. i'm sure a couple of those guys need to "wait a few years" or "can't be first ballot inductees because players X, Y and Z didn't make it on the first ballot"

 

The only reasons that I can think of as to why any of these players doesn't make the HOF on the first ballot are:

Bonds - Steroids

Clemens -Steroids

Sosa - speculation of steroids

Johnson - short of 300 wins

Piazza - poor defense

 

Biggio, Maddux, Martinez, Glavine, Smoltz are all cinch 1st ballot HOF.

The numbers would make all 10 of them 1st ballot HOF.

Johnson - 4653 K's (soon to be #2 all-time)

Piazza - arguably the greatest offensive catcher in the history of the game

 

 

I'm not saying I would use any of the reasons that I listed, I think those could be excuses for some sportswriters to exclude certain players. I think all 10 should make the HOF on the first ballot.

 

I think there's an evolving unwritten rule among Hall voters that roid guys shouldn't get in right away. I think it's a good idea. It's the only practical way for baseball to put an asterisk by a guy's stats.

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