Power vs Speed and Defense

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still waiting on the quote

 

What quote?

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i am confused, but to pin any of the blame for the padres' failures on depodesta is silly

[sneakypower]

i am confused, but to pin any of the blame for the padres' failures on depodesta is silly

then what are they paying him for? does he sit all day in the corner and just masturbate?

 

my whole point was if this guy was such a shrewd talent evaluator, maybe they'd have acquired a decent player or two during his tenure. i wasn't much blaming anybody, i just said that team's roster is awful.

 

jesus, i don't even care that much about the guy either way. what's with this weird allegiance anyways?

[bukie]

i am confused, but to pin any of the blame for the padres' failures on depodesta is silly

then what are they paying him for? does he sit all day in the corner and just masturbate?

 

my whole point was if this guy was such a shrewd talent evaluator, maybe they'd have acquired a decent player or two during his tenure. i wasn't much blaming anybody, i just said that team's roster is awful.

 

jesus, i don't even care that much about the guy either way. what's with this weird allegiance anyways?

 

His tenure has been two months as an assistant to the GM. This is why blaming the current roster failure on DePo is silly.

 

The allegiance stems from a management exec that is open about his decision making process on a blog, and takes SABR stats into account in the decision making process.

 

His article today on why the Padres just made a trade is fascinating, really.

[Ding Dong Johnson]

maybe they'd have acquired a decent player or two during his tenure

are you aware of the length of his tenure?

[sneakypower]

two years

[Ding Dong Johnson]

two years

in the same basic role as Ed Lynch or Chuck Wasserstrom. which one of them gets credit for the resurgence of the Cubs the past 2 years?

[imb]

What I'm saying is that if Roast is such a great usher, why did the Cubs give Soriano that huge contract

[CubColtPacer]

i am confused, but to pin any of the blame for the padres' failures on depodesta is silly

then what are they paying him for? does he sit all day in the corner and just masturbate?

 

my whole point was if this guy was such a shrewd talent evaluator, maybe they'd have acquired a decent player or two during his tenure. i wasn't much blaming anybody, i just said that team's roster is awful.

 

jesus, i don't even care that much about the guy either way. what's with this weird allegiance anyways?

 

His tenure has been two months as an assistant to the GM. This is why blaming the current roster failure on DePo is silly.

 

The allegiance stems from a management exec that is open about his decision making process on a blog, and takes SABR stats into account in the decision making process.

 

His article today on why the Padres just made a trade is fascinating, really.

 

Cro Magnon is right on the timeframe. It has been almost 2 years, not 2 months that DePodesta has been at his post.

 

But Towers is a pretty strong G.M. We just don't know what has happened in that office over the last 2 years. Maybe the two of them have agreed on mostly everything, and Depodesta has whiffed on a lot of players. However, maybe DePodesta tried to suggest some good players that Towers wouldn't devote the money to. I'm not what you exactly call a supporter of Depodesta, but I have a hard time blaming him when you simply don't know which decisions he was heavily involved in and which ones he wasn't. The same thing goes if the Padres have success; credit cannot be given to him for that. Unless it specifically comes out that he was involved, it will be hard to attribute anything the Padres do to Depodesta.

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i am confused, but to pin any of the blame for the padres' failures on depodesta is silly

then what are they paying him for? does he sit all day in the corner and just masturbate?

 

my whole point was if this guy was such a shrewd talent evaluator, maybe they'd have acquired a decent player or two during his tenure. i wasn't much blaming anybody, i just said that team's roster is awful.

 

jesus, i don't even care that much about the guy either way. what's with this weird allegiance anyways?

 

His tenure has been two months as an assistant to the GM. This is why blaming the current roster failure on DePo is silly.

 

The allegiance stems from a management exec that is open about his decision making process on a blog, and takes SABR stats into account in the decision making process.

 

His article today on why the Padres just made a trade is fascinating, really.

 

Cro Magnon is right on the timeframe. It has been almost 2 years, not 2 months that DePodesta has been at his post.

 

But Towers is a pretty strong G.M. We just don't know what has happened in that office over the last 2 years. Maybe the two of them have agreed on mostly everything, and Depodesta has whiffed on a lot of players. However, maybe DePodesta tried to suggest some good players that Towers wouldn't devote the money to. I'm not what you exactly call a supporter of Depodesta, but I have a hard time blaming him when you simply don't know which decisions he was heavily involved in and which ones he wasn't. The same thing goes if the Padres have success; credit cannot be given to him for that. Unless it specifically comes out that he was involved, it will be hard to attribute anything the Padres do to Depodesta.

 

I know this is a little off topic, but why aren't you a supporter of DePo? Are you saying you think he'd make a bad GM? I can understand if you think he's overrated by some, he probably is. But I'm curious what you mean by that.

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What I'm saying is that if Roast is such a great usher, why did the Cubs give Soriano that huge contract

 

are you aware of the length of his tenure?

[TruffleShuffle]

i am confused, but to pin any of the blame for the padres' failures on depodesta is silly

then what are they paying him for? does he sit all day in the corner and just masturbate?

 

actually yes, that's exactly what they're paying him for. which is why it's silly to blame their failures on him.

[CubColtPacer]

i am confused, but to pin any of the blame for the padres' failures on depodesta is silly

then what are they paying him for? does he sit all day in the corner and just masturbate?

 

my whole point was if this guy was such a shrewd talent evaluator, maybe they'd have acquired a decent player or two during his tenure. i wasn't much blaming anybody, i just said that team's roster is awful.

 

jesus, i don't even care that much about the guy either way. what's with this weird allegiance anyways?

 

His tenure has been two months as an assistant to the GM. This is why blaming the current roster failure on DePo is silly.

 

The allegiance stems from a management exec that is open about his decision making process on a blog, and takes SABR stats into account in the decision making process.

 

His article today on why the Padres just made a trade is fascinating, really.

 

Cro Magnon is right on the timeframe. It has been almost 2 years, not 2 months that DePodesta has been at his post.

 

But Towers is a pretty strong G.M. We just don't know what has happened in that office over the last 2 years. Maybe the two of them have agreed on mostly everything, and Depodesta has whiffed on a lot of players. However, maybe DePodesta tried to suggest some good players that Towers wouldn't devote the money to. I'm not what you exactly call a supporter of Depodesta, but I have a hard time blaming him when you simply don't know which decisions he was heavily involved in and which ones he wasn't. The same thing goes if the Padres have success; credit cannot be given to him for that. Unless it specifically comes out that he was involved, it will be hard to attribute anything the Padres do to Depodesta.

 

I know this is a little off topic, but why aren't you a supporter of DePo? Are you saying you think he'd make a bad GM? I can understand if you think he's overrated by some, he probably is. But I'm curious what you mean by that.

 

I didn't mean that I think he would be bad. I'm rather neutral on him. I'm not jumping for joy if he was hired as the general manager of the Cubs, but I would be optimistic for the team's future. So essentially all I was saying was that I'm not one of the ones on here who would normally jump in to defend his GM record just because they like him and his philosophy.

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i am confused, but to pin any of the blame for the padres' failures on depodesta is silly

then what are they paying him for? does he sit all day in the corner and just masturbate?

 

my whole point was if this guy was such a shrewd talent evaluator, maybe they'd have acquired a decent player or two during his tenure. i wasn't much blaming anybody, i just said that team's roster is awful.

 

jesus, i don't even care that much about the guy either way. what's with this weird allegiance anyways?

 

His tenure has been two months as an assistant to the GM. This is why blaming the current roster failure on DePo is silly.

 

The allegiance stems from a management exec that is open about his decision making process on a blog, and takes SABR stats into account in the decision making process.

 

His article today on why the Padres just made a trade is fascinating, really.

 

Cro Magnon is right on the timeframe. It has been almost 2 years, not 2 months that DePodesta has been at his post.

 

But Towers is a pretty strong G.M. We just don't know what has happened in that office over the last 2 years. Maybe the two of them have agreed on mostly everything, and Depodesta has whiffed on a lot of players. However, maybe DePodesta tried to suggest some good players that Towers wouldn't devote the money to. I'm not what you exactly call a supporter of Depodesta, but I have a hard time blaming him when you simply don't know which decisions he was heavily involved in and which ones he wasn't. The same thing goes if the Padres have success; credit cannot be given to him for that. Unless it specifically comes out that he was involved, it will be hard to attribute anything the Padres do to Depodesta.

 

I know this is a little off topic, but why aren't you a supporter of DePo? Are you saying you think he'd make a bad GM? I can understand if you think he's overrated by some, he probably is. But I'm curious what you mean by that.

 

I didn't mean that I think he would be bad. I'm rather neutral on him. I'm not jumping for joy if he was hired as the general manager of the Cubs, but I would be optimistic for the team's future. So essentially all I was saying was that I'm not one of the ones on here who would normally jump in to defend his GM record just because they like him and his philosophy.

 

Fair enough, but I think his GM record is pretty good (I also like his philosophy). You think his GM record needs defending?

[CubColtPacer]

i am confused, but to pin any of the blame for the padres' failures on depodesta is silly

then what are they paying him for? does he sit all day in the corner and just masturbate?

 

my whole point was if this guy was such a shrewd talent evaluator, maybe they'd have acquired a decent player or two during his tenure. i wasn't much blaming anybody, i just said that team's roster is awful.

 

jesus, i don't even care that much about the guy either way. what's with this weird allegiance anyways?

 

His tenure has been two months as an assistant to the GM. This is why blaming the current roster failure on DePo is silly.

 

The allegiance stems from a management exec that is open about his decision making process on a blog, and takes SABR stats into account in the decision making process.

 

His article today on why the Padres just made a trade is fascinating, really.

 

Cro Magnon is right on the timeframe. It has been almost 2 years, not 2 months that DePodesta has been at his post.

 

But Towers is a pretty strong G.M. We just don't know what has happened in that office over the last 2 years. Maybe the two of them have agreed on mostly everything, and Depodesta has whiffed on a lot of players. However, maybe DePodesta tried to suggest some good players that Towers wouldn't devote the money to. I'm not what you exactly call a supporter of Depodesta, but I have a hard time blaming him when you simply don't know which decisions he was heavily involved in and which ones he wasn't. The same thing goes if the Padres have success; credit cannot be given to him for that. Unless it specifically comes out that he was involved, it will be hard to attribute anything the Padres do to Depodesta.

 

I know this is a little off topic, but why aren't you a supporter of DePo? Are you saying you think he'd make a bad GM? I can understand if you think he's overrated by some, he probably is. But I'm curious what you mean by that.

 

I didn't mean that I think he would be bad. I'm rather neutral on him. I'm not jumping for joy if he was hired as the general manager of the Cubs, but I would be optimistic for the team's future. So essentially all I was saying was that I'm not one of the ones on here who would normally jump in to defend his GM record just because they like him and his philosophy.

 

Fair enough, but I think his GM record is pretty good (I also like his philosophy). You think his GM record needs defending?

 

I think his actual moves were pretty good, bordering on very good.

 

DePodesta didn't quite realize when he was a GM that it was very risky to be so out of step with both the fans and ownership. I'm not shocked that he got fired whatsoever. He tried to move so quickly to rebuild an already pretty good team that he essentially put his own head on the chopping block if it went wrong, even if it were for just a year, and it did. If Depodesta wants to succeed, his best bet would be to go to a smaller market team that has been losing, and is willing to give him a little bit of a longer leash. I think he would do quite well in that position.

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Fair enough, but I think his GM record is pretty good (I also like his philosophy). You think his GM record needs defending?

 

I think his actual moves were pretty good, bordering on very good.

 

DePodesta didn't quite realize when he was a GM that it was very risky to be so out of step with both the fans and ownership. I'm not shocked that he got fired whatsoever. He tried to move so quickly to rebuild an already pretty good team that he essentially put his own head on the chopping block if it went wrong, even if it were for just a year, and it did. If Depodesta wants to succeed, his best bet would be to go to a smaller market team that has been losing, and is willing to give him a little bit of a longer leash. I think he would do quite well in that position.

 

I was actually impressed with his willingness to stick his neck out there and accept that if things went wrong for 1 year, the team would still be better off in the long run. I wasn't shocked he got fired. But it's funny to me that the year after he's fired, the team he basically put together did quite well. Then his replacement got some bad contracts (Pierre, Gonzalez) and blocked some young guys, and the team was mediocre. So he went out and made some more bad signings (Jones). Of course the fans are going to go nuts - you traded Lo Duca! But the owner should have a longer vision, but he strikes me as an idiot (at least with re to baseball).

 

I don't think DePodesta is the greatest thing since sliced bread, but I think he could be very successful and made some good moves for the Dodgers. When he got fired way too soon, I was really hoping the Cubs would sign him. Now that Hendry's had some successful teams, I don't see him being fired any time soon.