Re: 04/19 Pittsburgh (Gorzelanny) @ CUBS (Marquis) 12:05, CSN TV

[Hairyducked Idiot]

I'm going to risk some woof-god wrath and check for the last time the Cubs started 11-6.

[sneakypower]

How much complaining has there been of his play this year? I mean you are basing things off of a 2 week sample size of games, which is a bit ridiculous considering the wealth of information we can draw about his past play.

 

EDIT: BTW I'm not against riding him out there every day, until he either hits a dry patch or not, but I still don't think he should lead off or bat 2nd. Fukudome should be in the mix there.

there's been a substantial amount of complaining, a polite term, about his inclusion in the lineup and his good play has not quelled that one bit.

 

exhibit A: quotes i cited in my initial post

[WilcoFan]

How much complaining has there been of his play this year? .

 

You obviously haven't read too many game threads this year. My favorite: the "BE HURT THERIOT" comment(s).

[Fred Hornkohl]

Doumit struck out swinging

[Hairyducked Idiot]

I'm going to risk some woof-god wrath and check for the last time the Cubs started 11-6.

 

Eww, 2004. Wish I hadn't looked.

[Hairyducked Idiot]

How much complaining has there been of his play this year? .

 

You obviously haven't read too many game threads this year. My favorite: the "BE HURT THERIOT" comment(s).

 

To be fair, we aren't complaining about his play to date this season. We are complaining about the likely level of play the rest of the season.

[YearofDaCubs]

Marquis has seriously looked really good. His pitches look like ace stuff right now.

[Fred Hornkohl]

TOP OF THE FOURTH INNING

 

Nady grounded out to third, 5-3

Doumit struck out swinging

Bautista lined out to second base

 

0 runs 0 hits 0 errors 0 men left on base

 

                1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9              R  H  E
Pittsburgh      0 0 0 0                        0  3  0
CUBS            2 1 4                          7  6  0

 

Home runs:

Pittsburgh: none

CUBS: Lee (7)

 

Pittsburgh     IP  H  R ER BB  K HR PIT
Gorzelanny    2.7  6  7  6  4  3  1  80
Dumatrait     0.3  0  0  0  0  0  0   2

 

CUBS           IP  H  R ER BB  K HR PIT
Marquis       4.0  3  0  0  1  4  0  63

[bcl412]

The thing about Theriot is, last year was his first year, what if his struggles were a fluke? What if he has adjusted and can get on base consistantly? As long as he is playing well this year you can't count him out.

[CubFanPhilly]

Nice inning for Marquis.

[bcl412]

Marquis has seriously looked really good. His pitches look like ace stuff right now.

 

He's had lots of movement and his sinker looks beautiful.

[BigSlick]

How much complaining has there been of his play this year? .

 

You obviously haven't read too many game threads this year. My favorite: the "BE HURT THERIOT" comment(s).

:-s

 

I mean whatever people want to give Cedeno a bit of a chance too

 

The hysterical hate for Cedeno was a lot louder than this

Edited April 19, 2008 by BigSlick

[anabiono]

Marquis has seriously looked really good. His pitches look like ace stuff right now.

 

you just hit the nail on the head in regards to why jason is so very frustrating

 

he has all the tools...just doesn't seem to ever put it together consistantly

[Fred Hornkohl]

Theriot grounded out to short, 6-3

[Hairyducked Idiot]

The thing about Theriot is, last year was his first year, what if his struggles were a fluke? What if he has adjusted and can get on base consistantly? As long as he is playing well this year you can't count him out.

 

His career minor-league numbers point to him being pretty much exactly what he was last year.

[Fred Hornkohl]

D Lee grounded out to short, 6-3

[bcl412]

Marquis has seriously looked really good. His pitches look like ace stuff right now.

 

you just hit the nail on the head in regards to why jason is so very frustrating

 

he has all the tools...just doesn't seem to ever put it together consistantly

 

If he ever put it together consistantly he would be a very, very good pitcher. Same with Dempster, if he throws strikes he would be tought to hit. If we find a way to get Marquis to pitch like this every day and Dempster continues pitching well this team could be a 100 plus win team. It's too bad it probably won't happen.

[WilcoFan]

How much complaining has there been of his play this year? .

 

You obviously haven't read too many game threads this year. My favorite: the "BE HURT THERIOT" comment(s).

 

To be fair, we aren't complaining about his play to date this season. We are complaining about the likely level of play the rest of the season.

 

Wow-complaining about play that hasn't even happened yet. That's an effective strategy.

 

People complained about his inclusion in the lineup every day, mischaracterized his performance this year, and done everything other than call him a pedophile. All he's done thus far has been a productive presence in the lineup.

 

I have no idea what he's going to do for the rest of the year-but it might be a good idea to actually be happy with his production thus far and hope he continues this throughout the season, regardless of past performance. He's not going anywhere, so there's really no other option.

[Fred Hornkohl]

Marquis has seriously looked really good. His pitches look like ace stuff right now.

 

you just hit the nail on the head in regards to why jason is so very frustrating

 

he has all the tools...just doesn't seem to ever put it together consistantly

 

If he ever put it together consistantly he would be a very, very good pitcher. Same with Dempster, if he throws strikes he would be tought to hit. If we find a way to get Marquis to pitch like this every day and Dempster continues pitching well this team could be a 100 plus win team. It's too bad it probably won't happen.

 

CUBS are on a pace to win 101 games this year :wink:

[bcl412]

The thing about Theriot is, last year was his first year, what if his struggles were a fluke? What if he has adjusted and can get on base consistantly? As long as he is playing well this year you can't count him out.

 

His career minor-league numbers point to him being pretty much exactly what he was last year.

 

Fair enough, I actually didn't know that. But weren't Cedeno's numbers pretty subpar as well up until his last season? I'm honestly don't know because I don't follow MiLB as much as I should.

[BigSlick]

How much complaining has there been of his play this year? .

 

You obviously haven't read too many game threads this year. My favorite: the "BE HURT THERIOT" comment(s).

 

To be fair, we aren't complaining about his play to date this season. We are complaining about the likely level of play the rest of the season.

 

Wow-complaining about play that hasn't even happened yet. That's an effective strategy.

Its something a GM has to do every day on his job.

 

Even Neifi has had stretches where he walloped the ball. I

[Fred Hornkohl]

Ramirez doubled to right center field

[WilcoFan]

 

The hysterical hate for Cedeno was a lot louder than this

 

 

I never once, not even on cubs.com, saw someone root for Cedeno to be injured.

[sneakypower]

How much complaining has there been of his play this year? .

 

You obviously haven't read too many game threads this year. My favorite: the "BE HURT THERIOT" comment(s).

:-s

 

I mean whatever people want to give Cedeno a bit of a chance too

 

The hysterical hate for Cedeno was a lot louder than this

and a hot less-than-half season of hitting in the PCL has everybody sold on him and singing his praises and praying for severe injury of the incumbent? wow, if that isnt the definition of reactionary i do not know what is.

[bcl412]

Marquis has seriously looked really good. His pitches look like ace stuff right now.

 

you just hit the nail on the head in regards to why jason is so very frustrating

 

he has all the tools...just doesn't seem to ever put it together consistantly

 

If he ever put it together consistantly he would be a very, very good pitcher. Same with Dempster, if he throws strikes he would be tought to hit. If we find a way to get Marquis to pitch like this every day and Dempster continues pitching well this team could be a 100 plus win team. It's too bad it probably won't happen.

 

CUBS are on a pace to win 101 games this year :wink:

 

And I am praying that it keeps up. Although knowing Cubs luck, the Brewers and Cards would win 102 (if that's even possible.)