2008 College Football

[shnsajax]

Andy, you only rank 3rd

Looks like just one man's opinion though. He doesn't cite any polls.

 

I'm surprised to see Tennessee that high (10th) and Alabama that low (8th).

 

I would have put Bama ahead of, at least, Oklahoma, Miami and Texas. Possibly as high as fourth (kicking Florida down a peg or two).

 

And I respect the heck out of Bear Bryant.

 

Bama? Hated? I don't see it. They're been absolutely irrelevant to most of the country for a long time now. If I had to guess the teams on this list, they probably wouldn't have been in my first 15 guesses.

 

Miami should be higher..they've been hated by a lot of people for a long time now. Florida State should be on that list. I've still noticed a lot of hatred for Nebraska even though they haven't been on the map for awhile.

 

I still stand by Bama. Maybe I had them a bit high (my Tennessee bias showing I suppose), but when the entire South hates you, you're hated by a whole lot of college football fans.

 

Bama's recent record (past 10 years) certainly drops them. In rivalry games they are certainly hated by a couple of schools almost more than anyone, but outside of that and the SEC I don't think many people really pay attention to them.

[Derwood]

I was listening to the local ESPN radio show yesterday and they were saying that the Favre situation this year is a preview of what we might see with Paterno next year. The difference, of course, is that Paterno's contract is up after this season, but I'm pretty sure he won't leave unless he wants to, no matter how bad the AD wants him gone. If the team wins 8 or 9 games, you can't really fire him either. At least I wouldnt' want to be the AD who will be known for firing a legend

[shnsajax]

I was listening to the local ESPN radio show yesterday and they were saying that the Favre situation this year is a preview of what we might see with Paterno next year. The difference, of course, is that Paterno's contract is up after this season, but I'm pretty sure he won't leave unless he wants to, no matter how bad the AD wants him gone. If the team wins 8 or 9 games, you can't really fire him either. At least I wouldnt' want to be the AD who will be known for firing a legend

 

Penn State is in a much worse position than the Packers. It will be sad to see it happen, but it almost should happen.

[Derwood]

I was listening to the local ESPN radio show yesterday and they were saying that the Favre situation this year is a preview of what we might see with Paterno next year. The difference, of course, is that Paterno's contract is up after this season, but I'm pretty sure he won't leave unless he wants to, no matter how bad the AD wants him gone. If the team wins 8 or 9 games, you can't really fire him either. At least I wouldnt' want to be the AD who will be known for firing a legend

 

Penn State is in a much worse position than the Packers. It will be sad to see it happen, but it almost should happen.

 

It's about 99% likely that Penn State screws the pooch on the whole thing. They'll either keep him around forever, they'll fire him (PR nightmare), or, if they get him to leave amicably, will just make an internal promotion for new head coach instead of making a splash

[shnsajax]

I was listening to the local ESPN radio show yesterday and they were saying that the Favre situation this year is a preview of what we might see with Paterno next year. The difference, of course, is that Paterno's contract is up after this season, but I'm pretty sure he won't leave unless he wants to, no matter how bad the AD wants him gone. If the team wins 8 or 9 games, you can't really fire him either. At least I wouldnt' want to be the AD who will be known for firing a legend

 

Penn State is in a much worse position than the Packers. It will be sad to see it happen, but it almost should happen.

 

It's about 99% likely that Penn State screws the pooch on the whole thing. They'll either keep him around forever, they'll fire him (PR nightmare), or, if they get him to leave amicably, will just make an internal promotion for new head coach instead of making a splash

 

They need some type of under the table buyout keeping him with the university afterwards where he agrees its time to step down. Yeah its really a no win situation for Penn State at all.

[imb]

 

Also, I think that game ends differently if Wienke is playing QB instead of the Rooster (Marcus Outzen).

 

 

There's almost no question FSU w/ Weinke would have curb-stomped Tennessee that year.

 

Haha, Weinke was such a putz. I'll never forget him pissing himself when Torrance Marshall was barking at him before the Orange Bowl. He looked like he wanted to cry.

 

Sometimes when I need a good laugh, I go back and watch that video.

 

Maybe, but I'm pretty sure FSU leaves OU gasping for air if we don't have Jeffrey Bowden as OC for that game. Someone should have known it was the beginning of something bad for FSU football at that time.

 

Nothing was happening against that defense on that day, I don't care who it was.

[dew1679666265]

Bama's recent record (past 10 years) certainly drops them. In rivalry games they are certainly hated by a couple of schools almost more than anyone, but outside of that and the SEC I don't think many people really pay attention to them.

 

You may be right nationally (which I guess is all that matters), but I've really been more annoyed by Bama fans since they've been terrible.

 

Many of them still think they're God's gift to college football (and, perhaps, humanity) and talk that way. Saban coming to Bama has only made things exponentially worse.

[shnsajax]

Bama's recent record (past 10 years) certainly drops them. In rivalry games they are certainly hated by a couple of schools almost more than anyone, but outside of that and the SEC I don't think many people really pay attention to them.

 

You may be right nationally (which I guess is all that matters), but I've really been more annoyed by Bama fans since they've been terrible.

 

Many of them still think they're God's gift to college football (and, perhaps, humanity) and talk that way. Saban coming to Bama has only made things exponentially worse.

 

Sounds a lot like A&M fans.

[dew1679666265]

Bama's recent record (past 10 years) certainly drops them. In rivalry games they are certainly hated by a couple of schools almost more than anyone, but outside of that and the SEC I don't think many people really pay attention to them.

 

You may be right nationally (which I guess is all that matters), but I've really been more annoyed by Bama fans since they've been terrible.

 

Many of them still think they're God's gift to college football (and, perhaps, humanity) and talk that way. Saban coming to Bama has only made things exponentially worse.

 

Sounds a lot like A&M fans.

 

So I guess you understand why I want them higher on the list. :D

[Andy]

Surprised this wasn't mentioned - the coaches' poll came out today and Georgia was #1, though it was far from unanimous. Pretty surprised to see Michigan in there, very surprised to see West Virginia so high, and pretty surprised Kansas was left out of the top 10.

 

The AP rankings are scheduled to come out on the 16th, and I'll post the Week 1 thread soon afterwards.

 

1. Georgia (22)

2. USC (14)

3. Ohio State (14)

4. Oklahoma (3)

5. Florida (5)

6. LSU (3)

7. Missouri

8. West Virginia

9. Clemson

10. Texas

11. Auburn

12. Wisconsin

13. Kansas

14. Texas Tech

15. Virginia Tech

16. Arizona State

17. Brigham Young

18. Tennessee

19. Illinois

20. Oregon

21. South Florida

22. Penn State

23. Wake Forest

24. Michigan

25. Fresno State

Others Receiving Votes

Alabama 83, South Carolina 64, Utah 60, Rutgers 53, Florida State 53, Boston College 47, California 41, Pittsburgh 34, Boise State 25, Oregon State 23, Nebraska 17, Cincinnati 13, Virginia 12, Connecticut 9, Michigan State 9, Mississippi State 6, Kentucky 5, Notre Dame 5, TCU 5, Maryland 4, Texas A&M 3, UCLA 3, North Carolina 3, Louisville 2, Georgia Tech 2, UCF 2, Tulsa 1, Oklahoma State 1, Arizona 1, Colorado 1

[Transmogrified Tiger]

5 Big XII teams in the Top 14.

 

I'd like to think Mizzou should be better than LSU this year, but other than that I think they're where they should be.

[Guest]

UCLA 3

 

Clearly, there are 3 crazy people who vote in the AP poll.

[dew1679666265]

Surprised this wasn't mentioned - the coaches' poll came out today and Georgia was #1, though it was far from unanimous. Pretty surprised to see Michigan in there, very surprised to see West Virginia so high, and pretty surprised Kansas was left out of the top 10.

 

The AP rankings are scheduled to come out on the 16th, and I'll post the Week 1 thread soon afterwards.

 

Here are my thoughts on the poll:

 

Michigan and Notre Dame have no business receiving votes

 

Perhaps it's my bias, but Tennessee should be higher. 12-14 would be about right, I think.

 

BYU, Texas Tech and Va Tech shouldn't be in the top 20.

 

Auburn shouldn't be ahead of Tennessee. Similar talent levels, Auburn has a new QB, new offensive coordinator, new defensive coordinator and a new offensive scheme. Tennessee has a new QB and offensive coordinator.

 

Georgia deserves its preseason number one, but will be ridiculed when it drops. I'm afraid most people won't realize how tough the Bulldogs' schedule is and how, potentially, three of the best teams in the nation are in the SEC East.

 

I think that's enough complaints. :D

 

EDIT: One last thought, and this is for Cuse. South Florida is a good team and likely should be a bit higher. Perhaps top 20, but not top 15. And I'll give them credit, outside of a patsy first game (UT-Martin) USF is playing some good to decent teams non-con (Kansas, NC State, UCF).

[Derwood]

I wonder if Penn State holds the record for # of years preranked #22

[Guest]

UCLA 3

 

Clearly, there are 3 crazy people who vote in the AP poll.

 

Three crazy coaches, you mean.

[Guest]

UCLA 3

 

Clearly, there are 3 crazy people who vote in the AP poll.

 

Three crazy coaches, you mean.

 

Coaches are people.

[Derwood]

UCLA 3

 

Clearly, there are 3 crazy people who vote in the AP poll.

 

Three crazy coaches' sports information major interns, you mean.

 

fixed

[Andy]

Here are my thoughts on the poll:

 

Michigan and Notre Dame have no business receiving votes

Michigan shouldn't be ranked but I have no problem with them receiving votes. ND received one fewer vote than Mississippi State and four less than UConn, so I hardly think that's a big deal.

 

Perhaps it's my bias, but Tennessee should be higher. 12-14 would be about right, I think.

I don't know much about the SEC, but I don't think there's any way that would make sense.

 

BYU, Texas Tech and Va Tech shouldn't be in the top 20.

Agreed.

 

Georgia deserves its preseason number one, but will be ridiculed when it drops. I'm afraid most people won't realize how tough the Bulldogs' schedule is and how, potentially, three of the best teams in the nation are in the SEC East.

Agreed that they deserve it, disagree that it'll be ridiculed. Everyone around the country slurps the SEC at this point and Georgia not staying atop the poll would be viewed as the conference's strength and not Georgia's weakness - which with the Dawgs' schedule, it should be.

[shnsajax]

why shouldn't Texas Tech be in the top 20?

[dew1679666265]

Here are my thoughts on the poll:

 

Michigan and Notre Dame have no business receiving votes

Michigan shouldn't be ranked but I have no problem with them receiving votes. ND received one fewer vote than Mississippi State and four less than UConn, so I hardly think that's a big deal.

 

If the rankings are supposed to be based on how good a team is, Michigan should not be in it. They lost an incredible amount of talent last season, haven't reloaded all that well and will run a system that they are woefully ill-prepared to run. They're likely to be middle of the pack Big 10.

 

Notre Dame isn't really that big a deal. I questioned whether I should even mention them, but after having so little success last year, to say they're one of the best 25 teams in the nation today is more than a little silly. That's what three (or however many) coaches said. There are, though, nearly as egregious inclusions on the list.

 

Perhaps it's my bias, but Tennessee should be higher. 12-14 would be about right, I think.

I don't know much about the SEC, but I don't think there's any way that would make sense.

 

The SEC East is ridiculously strong this season. Florida, Tennessee and Georgia all have extremely talented teams that should be hitting their peak this season and next. All three have very few question marks and could feasibly all be Top 10 teams if they weren't all in the same division.

 

Tennessee is probably the weakest of the three (primarily because we're breaking in a new QB and offensive coordinator), but wouldn't be greatly overrated if they were in the low top 10 (they'd be overrated, but honestly not that much).

 

Georgia deserves its preseason number one, but will be ridiculed when it drops. I'm afraid most people won't realize how tough the Bulldogs' schedule is and how, potentially, three of the best teams in the nation are in the SEC East.

Agreed that they deserve it, disagree that it'll be ridiculed. Everyone around the country slurps the SEC at this point and Georgia not staying atop the poll would be viewed as the conference's strength and not Georgia's weakness - which with the Dawgs' schedule, it should be.

 

Media types are definitely slurping on the SEC (and for good reason), but I think most fans of other conferences are sick and tired of hearing about the SEC. Thus, they'll be more than happy to ridicule Georgia should it, for instance, lose to Tennessee and Florida and finish the year with 2-3 losses.

 

In the SEC East this year, though, a 2-3 loss season is very solid. I don't think Georgia will lose 2-3 games this year (likely just 2), but it certainly wouldn't mirror they're talent level if they did.

[dew1679666265]

why shouldn't Texas Tech be in the top 20?

 

I probably exaggerated a bit saying they shouldn't be top 20. Certainly not top 15, but teams drop off quite a bit after 15 or so. I'd probably put them around 18 or so.

[shnsajax]

why shouldn't Texas Tech be in the top 20?

 

I probably exaggerated a bit saying they shouldn't be top 20. Certainly not top 15, but teams drop off quite a bit after 15 or so. I'd probably put them around 18 or so.

 

I think they are a dark horse in the big 12 south. Probably one of the most difficult teams to read. If their defense steps up they will cause a lot of problems.

[Andy]

Spurrier must not be in the poll this year, because his customary vote for Duke at No. 25 didn't happen.

[dew1679666265]

Spurrier must not be in the poll this year, because his customary vote for Duke at No. 25 didn't happen.

 

He probably didn't vote for them because they hired from the Tennessee coaching staff to fill their head coaching job. It's probably against his religion to vote for anything Tennessee. :D

[dew1679666265]

why shouldn't Texas Tech be in the top 20?

 

I probably exaggerated a bit saying they shouldn't be top 20. Certainly not top 15, but teams drop off quite a bit after 15 or so. I'd probably put them around 18 or so.

 

I think they are a dark horse in the big 12 south. Probably one of the most difficult teams to read. If their defense steps up they will cause a lot of problems.

 

They're especially hard to read because they don't play anybody out of conference - moreso than almost anybody else.

 

They've got enough offense to pull off a big upset or two, but not enough defensive talent to win anything consistently. I'll doubt them until they prove me otherwise.