PLEASE, Jim, Trade for Kemp & Loney!!!

[ChiCubsFan]

What are reasonable projections for Kemp and Loney for the next couple of years?

 

Here's some 2008 projections

 

James J.Loney .302 /.359/.465 /.823

CHONE J.Loney .284/.347/.431/.778

 

James M.Kemp .322/.365/.508/.873

CHONE M.Kemp .289/.337/.467/.804

 

Yeah, it'd totally suck to have those two hitting 3 and 5. Absolutely awful.

James M. Murton .305/.373/.468/.841

James D. Lee .297/.386/.515/.901

 

Let's see. We want a higher OBP no? Both Murton and Lee are better than Kemp and Loney in that department. Lee's considerably better than Kemp and Murton's considerably better than Loney.

 

Yeah, it'd totally suck to have those two hitting 3 and 5. Absolutely awful.

 

The point is that you don't lose all that much offensively and you save a ton of cash. Cash is then applied to A-Rod. Also, D-Lee is on the downswing of his career and is only going to get worse, while Kemp and Loney are young and going to improve.

 

Which would you rather have?

Lee, Muton, and Theriot or

Loney, Kemp, and A-Rod

 

I'd go with the second option. Never going to happen, but that would probably be the best scenario for this team. Patterson, D-Lee, and Marshall for Loney and Kemp?

 

Save a ton of cash? you'd save what? 15 mil? arod isnt signing for 15 mil

 

We already have about 15M to spend. You save 15M or more by trading Lee. 15+15=30. I think we could have got A-Rod to sign to 25-30.

 

None of this really matters, because there isn't any chance of it happening. I'm just saying that we'd be better off if we could trade Lee and others for two young players like Kemp and Loney, who have a good chance to be good for a long time.

[Derwood]

link to Loney being shopped please

[Mephistopheles]

What are reasonable projections for Kemp and Loney for the next couple of years?

 

Here's some 2008 projections

 

James J.Loney .302 /.359/.465 /.823

CHONE J.Loney .284/.347/.431/.778

 

James M.Kemp .322/.365/.508/.873

CHONE M.Kemp .289/.337/.467/.804

 

Yeah, it'd totally suck to have those two hitting 3 and 5. Absolutely awful.

James M. Murton .305/.373/.468/.841

James D. Lee .297/.386/.515/.901

 

Let's see. We want a higher OBP no? Both Murton and Lee are better than Kemp and Loney in that department. Lee's considerably better than Kemp and Murton's considerably better than Loney.

 

Yeah, it'd totally suck to have those two hitting 3 and 5. Absolutely awful.

 

The point is that you don't lose all that much offensively and you save a ton of cash. Cash is then applied to A-Rod. Also, D-Lee is on the downswing of his career and is only going to get worse, while Kemp and Loney are young and going to improve.

 

Which would you rather have?

Lee, Muton, and Theriot or

Loney, Kemp, and A-Rod

 

I'd go with the second option. Never going to happen, but that would probably be the best scenario for this team. Patterson, D-Lee, and Marshall for Loney and Kemp?

 

Save a ton of cash? you'd save what? 15 mil? arod isnt signing for 15 mil

 

We already have about 15M to spend. You save 15M or more by trading Lee. 15+15=30. I think we could have got A-Rod to sign to 25-30.

 

None of this really matters, because there isn't any chance of it happening. I'm just saying that we'd be better off if we could trade Lee and others for two young players like Kemp and Loney, who have a good chance to be good for a long time.

 

and we could keep lee and murton and acquire tejada instead. arod cant play SS anymore kids

[jersey cubs fan]

and we could keep lee and murton and acquire tejada instead. arod cant play SS anymore kids

 

If Tejada can, ARod can.

[rawaction]

and we could keep lee and murton and acquire tejada instead. arod cant play SS anymore kids

 

If Tejada can, ARod can.

 

Tejada can't either. For the record, I don't believe for a minute that Arod can still play SS. For all the talk about him being the best SS on the Yankees, I don't think his defense would be as good as Jeter's the last 3 years. My wanting Arod to play SS for the Cubs, was based on the fact, that I don't really care if he can play it or not.

[Hosak8]

What are reasonable projections for Kemp and Loney for the next couple of years?

 

Here's some 2008 projections

 

James J.Loney .302 /.359/.465 /.823

CHONE J.Loney .284/.347/.431/.778

 

James M.Kemp .322/.365/.508/.873

CHONE M.Kemp .289/.337/.467/.804

 

Yeah, it'd totally suck to have those two hitting 3 and 5. Absolutely awful.

James M. Murton .305/.373/.468/.841

James D. Lee .297/.386/.515/.901

 

Let's see. We want a higher OBP no? Both Murton and Lee are better than Kemp and Loney in that department. Lee's considerably better than Kemp and Murton's considerably better than Loney.

 

Yeah, it'd totally suck to have those two hitting 3 and 5. Absolutely awful.

 

The point is that you don't lose all that much offensively and you save a ton of cash. Cash is then applied to A-Rod. Also, D-Lee is on the downswing of his career and is only going to get worse, while Kemp and Loney are young and going to improve.

 

Which would you rather have?

Lee, Muton, and Theriot or

Loney, Kemp, and A-Rod

 

I'd go with the second option. Never going to happen, but that would probably be the best scenario for this team. Patterson, D-Lee, and Marshall for Loney and Kemp?

 

Save a ton of cash? you'd save what? 15 mil? arod isnt signing for 15 mil

 

We already have about 15M to spend. You save 15M or more by trading Lee. 15+15=30. I think we could have got A-Rod to sign to 25-30.

 

None of this really matters, because there isn't any chance of it happening. I'm just saying that we'd be better off if we could trade Lee and others for two young players like Kemp and Loney, who have a good chance to be good for a long time.

 

and we could keep lee and murton and acquire tejada instead. arod cant play SS anymore kids

 

He can't? And you know this how?

[Guest]

As for Lee, he showed some more power in the second half of the year... this may mitigate the concerns that I have about his absurd 2007 BABIP.

 

DLee had a .323 BABIP in the second half last year which was his better half (.941 OPS in the 2nd vs. .890 in the 1st). His BABIP for his career is .322. I'm not too worried about DLee.

[NCCubFan]

I must be the only not on the Loney and Kemp bandwagons. That said, we don't have the trade assets required to net both of them. Stop discussing it.

Here we go again. People are free to discuss whatever trades they'd like to see. You do NOT tell people to stop discussing things.

[Derwood]

I must be the only not on the Loney and Kemp bandwagons. That said, we don't have the trade assets required to net both of them. Stop discussing it.

Here we go again. People are free to discuss whatever trades they'd like to see. You do NOT tell people to stop discussing things.

 

he just did ;)