Who are the Yankees targeting to replace ARod?

[Derwood]

hey goony, do New Yorkers talk with as many exclamation points as YankeeFan here types?

 

And this adds to the discussion in exactly what way?

 

wow, relax, just a joke

[BigbadB]

hey goony, do New Yorkers talk with as many exclamation points as YankeeFan here types?

 

And this adds to the discussion in exactly what way?

 

wow, relax, just a joke

 

I'm not an expert, but typically a joke is where someone says something and people laugh.

 

I wouldn't call insulting a new member of our communities punctuation habits a joke.

[Yanksfan1523]

Also, yeah, ARod wanted 30m, but he was already making $25m per. Is the extra 10m or so per year really going to cripple you payroll wise?

 

That's not entirely accurate. The Yankees only paid $16m of it. The Rangers picked up $9m. Since he opted out, the Rangers are the happiest team in the world.

 

EXACTLY A-Rod at 16-20 is one thing, A-Rod at 30-35 is another.

 

And lets make one thing CLEAR. I am a Yankee fan 4 life. I am not one of the asses that boos A-Rod. I want him to preform well while he is wearing pins! I also DO NOT say it is A-Rods fault THE TEAM LOST!! There have been many guys that have playeed for the Yankees that I HATED, but I still root for my team! I sat through years of Jesse Barfield, Steve Balboni, Len Sakata, John Montefusco and others!!

 

I have not like MANY moves made (Just like Cub Fans!) and am not dilussional as to what this team is without him! I see all the faults, saw them before last season. I see them now!! BUt signing A-Rod is not a cure for the Yanks problems. And just like the Soriano threads, What happens in the last 3 years of that contract when a 38 yr old A-Rod is making 40 Million!!

 

I am not knocking A-Rod and Praising the Giambi, Damon, Pavano, Farnsworth-LESS's of the team!! Do not lump me in with the 96ers that think the Yanks need to make the playoffs every year! I was at the Stadium when it was Mattingly and NOTHING!!!

[jersey cubs fan]

hey goony, do New Yorkers talk with as many exclamation points as YankeeFan here types?

 

Strangely enough, they've been pretty quiet for a while now. I think they sense the real end of the Yankees dynasty.

[UMFan83]

As crazy as it sounds, if the Rays make a couple of good moves that improve their pitching staff, they have the potential to be better than the Yankees next year.

 

I agree, but I've been saying that for 2-3 years now. First with the Gomes/Baldelli/Kazmir/Crawford incarnation and now the Young/Dukes/Longoria one.

[Guest]

As crazy as it sounds, if the Rays make a couple of good moves that improve their pitching staff, they have the potential to be better than the Yankees next year.

 

I agree, but I've been saying that for 2-3 years now. First with the Gomes/Baldelli/Kazmir/Crawford incarnation and now the Young/Dukes/Longoria one.

Give it another couple years until the pitching arrives. I think I might take the arms they have in the minors over any other organization. Heck, I can't think of anyone that can match McGee + Price as a top two. The key for them will be paying to keep the hitting they have while the pitching is maturing.

 

Watch out.

[USSoccer]

 

EXACTLY A-Rod at 16-20 is one thing, A-Rod at 30-35 is another.

 

And lets make one thing CLEAR. I am a Yankee fan 4 life. I am not one of the asses that boos A-Rod. I want him to preform well while he is wearing pins! I also DO NOT say it is A-Rods fault THE TEAM LOST!! There have been many guys that have playeed for the Yankees that I HATED, but I still root for my team! I sat through years of Jesse Barfield, Steve Balboni, Len Sakata, John Montefusco and others!!

 

I have not like MANY moves made (Just like Cub Fans!) and am not dilussional as to what this team is without him! I see all the faults, saw them before last season. I see them now!! BUt signing A-Rod is not a cure for the Yanks problems. And just like the Soriano threads, What happens in the last 3 years of that contract when a 38 yr old A-Rod is making 40 Million!!

 

I am not knocking A-Rod and Praising the Giambi, Damon, Pavano, Farnsworth-LESS's of the team!! Do not lump me in with the 96ers that think the Yanks need to make the playoffs every year! I was at the Stadium when it was Mattingly and NOTHING!!!

 

The difference between ARod at $16-20m and ARod at $30m (not sure where you're getting $35-40m from) is $10-14m. Or, if you prefer, Jared Wright or Carl Pavano. That amount of payroll is nothing for your team. If you let ARod go, you're weakening your offense, so you're creating another hole to fill.

[Guest]

As crazy as it sounds, if the Rays make a couple of good moves that improve their pitching staff, they have the potential to be better than the Yankees next year.

 

I agree, but I've been saying that for 2-3 years now. First with the Gomes/Baldelli/Kazmir/Crawford incarnation and now the Young/Dukes/Longoria one.

 

They'll make the playoffs for sure in 2009 or 2010. I know Callis keeps banging the Rays in the WS in 2010 drum, I wouldn't go that far, though.

 

Longoria/Price/McGee/Davis/Brignac is the best top 5 minor leaguers in any farm system in baseball. Sheesh.

[Derwood]

As crazy as it sounds, if the Rays make a couple of good moves that improve their pitching staff, they have the potential to be better than the Yankees next year.

 

I agree, but I've been saying that for 2-3 years now. First with the Gomes/Baldelli/Kazmir/Crawford incarnation and now the Young/Dukes/Longoria one.

 

They'll make the playoffs for sure in 2009 or 2010. I know Callis keeps banging the Rays in the WS in 2010 drum, I wouldn't go that far, though.

 

Longoria/Price/McGee/Davis/Brignac is the best top 5 minor leaguers in any farm system in baseball. Sheesh.

 

what is going to happen in '09 or '10 that will prevent the Yanks/Sox from spending $160M more than TB?

[BigbadB]

As crazy as it sounds, if the Rays make a couple of good moves that improve their pitching staff, they have the potential to be better than the Yankees next year.

 

I agree, but I've been saying that for 2-3 years now. First with the Gomes/Baldelli/Kazmir/Crawford incarnation and now the Young/Dukes/Longoria one.

 

They'll make the playoffs for sure in 2009 or 2010. I know Callis keeps banging the Rays in the WS in 2010 drum, I wouldn't go that far, though.

 

Longoria/Price/McGee/Davis/Brignac is the best top 5 minor leaguers in any farm system in baseball. Sheesh.

 

what is going to happen in '09 or '10 that will prevent the Yanks/Sox from spending $160M more than TB?

 

Good point.

[USSoccer]

As crazy as it sounds, if the Rays make a couple of good moves that improve their pitching staff, they have the potential to be better than the Yankees next year.

 

I agree, but I've been saying that for 2-3 years now. First with the Gomes/Baldelli/Kazmir/Crawford incarnation and now the Young/Dukes/Longoria one.

 

They'll make the playoffs for sure in 2009 or 2010. I know Callis keeps banging the Rays in the WS in 2010 drum, I wouldn't go that far, though.

 

Longoria/Price/McGee/Davis/Brignac is the best top 5 minor leaguers in any farm system in baseball. Sheesh.

 

what is going to happen in '09 or '10 that will prevent the Yanks/Sox from spending $160M more than TB?

 

If 2 or 3 of those guys reach their level it won't matter how much Boston and New York spend.

[jersey cubs fan]

If 2 or 3 of those guys reach their level it won't matter how much Boston and New York spend.

 

Don't kid yourself. It will always matter. As great as Tampa's young talent may be, NY and BOS will always be able to threaten the 95-100 win range with just a handful of moves. Money matters. It's the one advantage the Cubs have over the 5 NLC teams, and the one reason they might stay at or near the top of the division.

[Derwood]

the yankees/sox fielding a major league all-star team >>>> TB fielding a minor league all-star team

[USSoccer]

If 2 or 3 of those guys reach their level it won't matter how much Boston and New York spend.

 

Don't kid yourself. It will always matter. As great as Tampa's young talent may be, NY and BOS will always be able to threaten the 95-100 win range with just a handful of moves. Money matters. It's the one advantage the Cubs have over the 5 NLC teams, and the one reason they might stay at or near the top of the division.

 

New York's payroll is going to be massive in 2008, and unless they pull a rabbit out of the hat, they aren't going to win 90.

[USSoccer]

the yankees/sox fielding a major league all-star team >>>> TB fielding a minor league all-star team

 

Unless the Yankees All-Star team is like 2002's All Star team in 2008.

[Yanksfan1523]

I think everyone needs to realize that it is not how much you spend, It is how you spend it! Spending money does not equal wins.

[USSoccer]

I think everyone needs to realize that it is not how much you spend, It is how you spend it! Spending money does not equal wins.

 

To a degree. It's a massive advantage to be able to outspend your mistakes.

[jersey cubs fan]

If 2 or 3 of those guys reach their level it won't matter how much Boston and New York spend.

 

Don't kid yourself. It will always matter. As great as Tampa's young talent may be, NY and BOS will always be able to threaten the 95-100 win range with just a handful of moves. Money matters. It's the one advantage the Cubs have over the 5 NLC teams, and the one reason they might stay at or near the top of the division.

 

New York's payroll is going to be massive in 2008, and unless they pull a rabbit out of the hat, they aren't going to win 90.

 

Yes, from time to time a big money time will take a step back because they've overpaid for so long. However, the point is they will always be able to threaten the 95-100 win range with a couple moves. There's no need for magic. Just agree to overpay financially, and there will always be talent available for the taking.

[Yanksfan1523]

I think everyone needs to realize that it is not how much you spend, It is how you spend it! Spending money does not equal wins.

 

To a degree. It's a massive advantage to be able to outspend your mistakes.

 

I agree that teams liek the Yanks, Sox, Mets, Dodgers, and Cubs can spend to cover up mistakes, but that does not bring in wins and causes more problems down the line. Hence the Yankees downslide into mediocrity. I agree they will be hard pressed to win 90 next year, but they have to pay for the mistakes of overspending on garbage and build themselves back up. They do have the system now to go out and make some trades to fill some minor holes.

[USSoccer]

They do have the system now to go out and make some trades to fill some minor holes.

 

Not really. Hughes, Chamberlin, Tabata and Kennedy. What else is there?

[BigbadB]

I think everyone needs to realize that it is not how much you spend, It is how you spend it! Spending money does not equal wins.

 

Haha. You're telling Cub fans this? Did you forget we have Jim Hendry in charge of the decisions in Chicago? They haven't spent money wisely since, well, ever.

 

Admittedly, the Yankees don't spend wisely either. But, when you have as much as money to spend as they have, you don't necessarily have to.

 

They very easily could have given ARod 35m a year and rebuilt the pitching staff. As bad as everyone likes to make the Yankees out to be, they were a perennial playoff team WITH ARod. Without him, I'm not sure they are anymore.

[Yanksfan1523]

If 2 or 3 of those guys reach their level it won't matter how much Boston and New York spend.

 

Don't kid yourself. It will always matter. As great as Tampa's young talent may be, NY and BOS will always be able to threaten the 95-100 win range with just a handful of moves. Money matters. It's the one advantage the Cubs have over the 5 NLC teams, and the one reason they might stay at or near the top of the division.

 

New York's payroll is going to be massive in 2008, and unless they pull a rabbit out of the hat, they aren't going to win 90.

 

Yes, from time to time a big money time will take a step back because they've overpaid for so long. However, the point is they will always be able to threaten the 95-100 win range with a couple moves. There's no need for magic. Just agree to overpay financially, and there will always be talent available for the taking.

 

And sometimes that works out to your advantage. Like with the SAWKS taking Lowell and his contract to get Beckett. Now Lowell is a beast. That worked out well for them.

[jersey cubs fan]

I think everyone needs to realize that it is not how much you spend, It is how you spend it! Spending money does not equal wins.

 

To a degree. It's a massive advantage to be able to outspend your mistakes.

 

I agree that teams liek the Yanks, Sox, Mets, Dodgers, and Cubs can spend to cover up mistakes, but that does not bring in wins and causes more problems down the line. Hence the Yankees downslide into mediocrity. I agree they will be hard pressed to win 90 next year, but they have to pay for the mistakes of overspending on garbage and build themselves back up. They do have the system now to go out and make some trades to fill some minor holes.

 

No, it does bring in wins. The only reason the Cubs went from 90 losses to 85 wins was money. The only reason the Yankees have stuck around at the elite level for so long is money.

 

If you spend $90-100m, a couple mistakes can really affect you negatively. If you spend $200 million, you can withstand a lot more mistakes.

 

It always cracks me up when Yankees fans try to lump themselves into the same group as LA, the Cubs and others. The Yankees are an entirely different concept than any other team in baseball. The Red Sox are similar, but significantly less well funded to make a difference. The next group doesn't even compare.

[Yanksfan1523]

They do have the system now to go out and make some trades to fill some minor holes.

 

Not really. Hughes, Chamberlin, Tabata and Kennedy. What else is there?

 

Eric Duncan, Humberto Sanchez and plenty of B level talent. Notice I said MINOR holes. We have plenty of Theriot, Fontenot types in the farm. And you never know what those players may give you for a season or two.

[Guest]

They do have the system now to go out and make some trades to fill some minor holes.

 

Not really. Hughes, Chamberlin, Tabata and Kennedy. What else is there?

 

Eric Duncan, Humberto Sanchez and plenty of B level talent. Notice I said MINOR holes. We have plenty of Theriot, Fontenot types in the farm. And you never know what those players may give you for a season or two.

 

Eric Duncan is worthless.