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Dude, where do u get this stuff "The Matsuis haven't"....uhhhhh, the Matsuis were extremely productive this year, hideki has been great since he came over, and Kaz had a very good year too, thats just a stupid statement and its obvious that you just didnt look at the numbers before posting this. Kaz outhit Iguchi this year. You don' really think that Iguchi and Johjima were more productive that Hideki Matsui, do you? Come on, if your going to make bold statements don't contradict them with bad info.

 

I'm not sure how you can say Kaz Matsui was "extremely productive" or "had a great year." A .747 OPS (87 OPS+) when you play half your games in a hitter's paradise isn't exactly impressive. He gave them very good defense and was productive on the basepaths. Nothing else about his season was great or even good.

 

As for outhitting Iguchi, they had the exact same OPS this season. Matsui just did it with a higher batting average.

 

Hideki Matsui has been good. However, I think some people expected a little more power out of him than he's shown since coming over from Japan.

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That's a loaded statement, most japanese players don't come over here until after their prime {Ichiro, Matui(s) and Matsuzaka are the exception).

 

That said they've got quite a few good players here right now. There's a lot of young talent in Japan right now (especially on the pitching side of the game)

 

Yuki Saito

Yu Darvish

Masahiro Tanaka

Yoshinori Sato

 

All of these pitchers have the potential to be in the front half of a major league rotation, with Sato and Darvish being potential elite pitchers (Darvish could wind up being the best pitcher on the planet). There are several other guys who could be at that level, but more than likely middle of the rotatino guys (Uehara, Saito, Sugiuchi, etc). Pitchers from Japan have thrived, it's the offensive side of the game where they haven't. Jojima has done well and so has Ichiro as well as Iguchi. The Matsuis haven't.

 

Dude, where do u get this stuff "The Matsuis haven't"....uhhhhh, the Matsuis were extremely productive this year, hideki has been great since he came over, and Kaz had a very good year too, thats just a stupid statement and its obvious that you just didnt look at the numbers before poshttp://www.northsidebaseball.com/Forum/posting.php?mode=quote&p=1581700

http://www.northsidebaseball.com :: Post a replyting this. Kaz outhit Iguchi this year. You don' really think that Iguchi and Johjima were more productive that Hideki Matsui, do you? Come on, if your going to make bold statements don't contradict them with bad info.

 

Kaz Matsui, playing in Coors Field put up an OPS+ of 87 this year and has been a pretty bad hitter since he came into the league. There is no way you can justify calling him extremely productive. This was his first year with a SLG over .400. His away numbers this past year were .249/.304/.386. His overall numbers are still mediocre and inflated by Coors Field.

 

I haven't followed Matsui much, why is it that he's never really played a full season? Even this year he only played in 104 games.

 

edit: damn, gb beat me to it

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This is a huge pet peeve of mine when people reference OPS+ and then go on to talk about his ballpark. OPS+ includes a ballpark adjustment, saying he had an 87 OPS+ in Coors is redundant.

 

An 87 OPS+ with good defense and good baserunning has gotta be at least average for a 2nd baseman.

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but Matsui hit enough and pretty well for his position, also, Hideki has been a very good hitter so to say that iguchi and Johjima were a success and Hideki was not, is not an accurate statement.
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but Matsui hit enough and pretty well for his position, also, Hideki has been a very good hitter so to say that iguchi and Johjima were a success and Hideki was not, is not an accurate statement.

 

None of them make you say "boy, if only we signed that guy."

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but Matsui hit enough and pretty well for his position, also, Hideki has been a very good hitter so to say that iguchi and Johjima were a success and Hideki was not, is not an accurate statement.

 

None of them make you say "boy, if only we signed that guy."

 

eh, Hideki would look nice in our lineup

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but Matsui hit enough and pretty well for his position, also, Hideki has been a very good hitter so to say that iguchi and Johjima were a success and Hideki was not, is not an accurate statement.

 

None of them make you say "boy, if only we signed that guy."

 

eh, Hideki would look nice in our lineup

 

in RF? He would be an upgrade but not that huge of one - especially with his contract.

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Trade-wise, we tried to make a trade or two that would've been as significant or more last year than probably any of our free agent signings except [Alfonso] Soriano, and sometimes they don't work out. The other team isn't obligated to trade you their better players.

 

any idea's who would have been a bigger impact than a guy like Lilly was that Hendry was trying to swing a deal for at the deadline.

 

Parla usted ingles?!

 

Yeah this sentence sounds like something that came right from Mike Pagliarulo's blog.

 

http://www.firejoemorgan.com/search/label/billy%20beane

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