Cubs 2007 player grades

[bukie]

According to Inside Edge

 

A lot of fascinating information there, actually, regarding every aspect of the pitchers and hitters.

 

Some preliminary observations:

- The Cubs look to be a team full of players that are better than average (C+ or better), but nobody is great (A or A-), except for Lee, Ramirez, Ward (remember, only for hitting) and Marmol.

- Soriano really needs some plate discipline to become a good hitter.

- Hill scored the best in the rotation, and Marquis the worse, but everyone was between a B+ and a B- (even Marshall)

- No Soto or Trachsel grades, likely due to a lack of PAs, although Fox is on there, so who knows.

- Monroe, Pie and Blanco were the only current Cubs that finished below average.

[Banedon]

According to Inside Edge

 

A lot of fascinating information there, actually, regarding every aspect of the pitchers and hitters.

 

Some preliminary observations:

- The Cubs look to be a team full of players that are better than average (C+ or better), but nobody is great (A or A-), except for Lee, Ramirez, Ward (remember, only for hitting) and Marmol.

- Soriano really needs some plate discipline to become a good hitter.

- Hill scored the best in the rotation, and Marquis the worse, but everyone was between a B+ and a B- (even Marshall)

- No Soto or Trachsel grades, likely due to a lack of PAs, although Fox is on there, so who knows.

- Monroe, Pie and Blanco were the only current Cubs that finished below average.

 

I know it defies conventional thinking, but I think Soriano is better when he's a free swinger. The few times that he's tried to be patient, he ends up striking out. If his production is reliant on his free swinging, so be it.

 

But he shouldn't be batting leadoff.

 

Also I'm guessing these reports were done earlier in the season...so Soto and Trachsel aren't there.

[CuseCubFan69]

According to Inside Edge

 

A lot of fascinating information there, actually, regarding every aspect of the pitchers and hitters.

 

Some preliminary observations:

- The Cubs look to be a team full of players that are better than average (C+ or better), but nobody is great (A or A-), except for Lee, Ramirez, Ward (remember, only for hitting) and Marmol.

- Soriano really needs some plate discipline to become a good hitter.

- Hill scored the best in the rotation, and Marquis the worse, but everyone was between a B+ and a B- (even Marshall)

- No Soto or Trachsel grades, likely due to a lack of PAs, although Fox is on there, so who knows.

- Monroe, Pie and Blanco were the only current Cubs that finished below average.

 

I know it defies conventional thinking, but I think Soriano is better when he's a free swinger. The few times that he's tried to be patient, he ends up striking out. If his production is reliant on his free swinging, so be it.

 

But he shouldn't be batting leadoff.

 

He's too old to change imo. Like it or not he's going to swing like this for the rest of his career and you're right, he does produce more by being in this mode.

[C.C.]

According to Inside Edge

 

A lot of fascinating information there, actually, regarding every aspect of the pitchers and hitters.

 

Some preliminary observations:

- The Cubs look to be a team full of players that are better than average (C+ or better), but nobody is great (A or A-), except for Lee, Ramirez, Ward (remember, only for hitting) and Marmol.

- Soriano really needs some plate discipline to become a good hitter.

- Hill scored the best in the rotation, and Marquis the worse, but everyone was between a B+ and a B- (even Marshall)

- No Soto or Trachsel grades, likely due to a lack of PAs, although Fox is on there, so who knows.

- Monroe, Pie and Blanco were the only current Cubs that finished below average.

 

I know it defies conventional thinking, but I think Soriano is better when he's a free swinger. The few times that he's tried to be patient, he ends up striking out. If his production is reliant on his free swinging, so be it.

 

But he shouldn't be batting leadoff.

 

He is what he is. He's not going to learn patience in his 30's.

[CuseCubFan69]

According to Inside Edge

 

A lot of fascinating information there, actually, regarding every aspect of the pitchers and hitters.

 

Some preliminary observations:

- The Cubs look to be a team full of players that are better than average (C+ or better), but nobody is great (A or A-), except for Lee, Ramirez, Ward (remember, only for hitting) and Marmol.

- Soriano really needs some plate discipline to become a good hitter.

- Hill scored the best in the rotation, and Marquis the worse, but everyone was between a B+ and a B- (even Marshall)

- No Soto or Trachsel grades, likely due to a lack of PAs, although Fox is on there, so who knows.

- Monroe, Pie and Blanco were the only current Cubs that finished below average.

 

It looks like the team isn't full of stars but not horrible either. The perfect B student.

[Ding Dong Johnson]

They have Moore and Fox but no Soto? Probably because he'd break the scale.

[Banedon]

Murton has a higher overall grade than Soriano.

[Post Count Padder]

They have Moore and Fox but no Soto? Probably because he'd break the scale.

He's not on there because there is no A+++++++

[Cubzfan64]

I generally agree that the Cubs are a grade C to high grade B team with the obvious few exceptions.

 

I also agree with the posters who say at this point of his career Soriano is what he is and isn't likely to change. On the plus side, at least you know what to expect from him!

 

The one thing Pienella CANNOT afford to do in the playoffs is stick with guys like Trachsel, Marquis and Dempster if they show any signs of failure. We have other options on this team and we need to go to them at the first sign of problems with those 3 guys!

[bukie]

Murton has a higher overall grade than Soriano.

 

So does Floyd. The numbers don't like Soriano at all.

[CuseCubFan69]

They have Moore and Fox but no Soto? Probably because he'd break the scale.

He's not on there because there is no A+++++++

 

Only Ralphie gets those.

[CuseCubFan69]

I generally agree that the Cubs are a grade C to high grade B team with the obvious few exceptions.

 

I also agree with the posters who say at this point of his career Soriano is what he is and isn't likely to change. On the plus side, at least you know what to expect from him!

 

The one thing Pienella CANNOT afford to do in the playoffs is stick with guys like Trachsel, Marquis and Dempster if they show any signs of failure. We have other options on this team and we need to go to them at the first sign of problems with those 3 guys!

 

I think Lou gave them a trial run and is smart enough to know what to do during the playoffs. I really believe he used that 2 game lead like a mulligan.

[NewUserName]

When Soriano tries to be more patient he reminds me of CPatt. Taking the first pitch everytime does not make you a patient hitter. It has more to do with understanding your own limitations. There is nothing wrong with swinging at the first pitch if it is something that you can normally drive. The problem with the Soriano types is they think they can normally drive anything. So its not like he is taking to see if he can get a better pitch later. He is taking because someone is telling him to be more patient. A lot of times what ends up happening is he takes the first pitch which was hittable and ends up swinging at the next 2 which are not as good.

 

 

So basically it is probably better to let Soriano be Soriano. To bad we paid him to be Vlad.

[illiniguy]

Marmol was only a B+ this year? Good one :P