Cubs Contemplating Samardzija Call-Up in September

[CUBZ99]

By the by, for those concerned, it looks like Angel Guzman should have another option year for next season.

 

Is that right? Outstanding.

 

As soon as he's "healthy" and pitching well, trade him before the duct tape and bailing wire break.

 

Or the Cubs could decide if they want him as a RP or a SP and not jerk him around.

 

The Cubs do plenty of things wrong, but you are really stretching to blame them for Guzman's fragility.

[Drew Doughty]

By the by, for those concerned, it looks like Angel Guzman should have another option year for next season.

 

Is that right? Outstanding.

 

As soon as he's "healthy" and pitching well, trade him before the duct tape and bailing wire break.

 

Or the Cubs could decide if they want him as a RP or a SP and not jerk him around.

 

The Cubs do plenty of things wrong, but you are really stretching to blame them for Guzman's fragility.

 

he was fragile before, they knew this. so why did they jerk him around when he was finally healthy? his injury coming shortly after a change in roles with no easing in or anything was as predictable as any injury the cubs have ever had.

[CubinNY]

By the by, for those concerned, it looks like Angel Guzman should have another option year for next season.

 

Is that right? Outstanding.

 

As soon as he's "healthy" and pitching well, trade him before the duct tape and bailing wire break.

 

Or the Cubs could decide if they want him as a RP or a SP and not jerk him around.

 

The Cubs do plenty of things wrong, but you are really stretching to blame them for Guzman's fragility.

 

I'm not blaiming them at all.

 

But let me run this by you and see what you think.

 

A GM of a team has a talented but frequently injured young pitcher. He has been injury free for a while. The GM decides break camp with him as a reliever for the MLB club, then after approximately three weeks of inconsistent and infrequent use he decides he wants him to start so he send him back down to AAA to "stretch" his arm. He gets three starts in AAA then he gets sent back to the MLB club. Then from May 6 to May 17 he gets 3 starts in the majors. He doesn't do bad but cannot get out of the 5th inning. Then the GM and manager decide they want him in the bullpen where he is used approximately every two days until he comes up with an injury about a month later.

 

Would you say this is a good plan for a "fragile" young pitcher?

[jersey cubs fan]

By the by, for those concerned, it looks like Angel Guzman should have another option year for next season.

 

Is that right? Outstanding.

 

As soon as he's "healthy" and pitching well, trade him before the duct tape and bailing wire break.

 

Or the Cubs could decide if they want him as a RP or a SP and not jerk him around.

 

The Cubs do plenty of things wrong, but you are really stretching to blame them for Guzman's fragility.

 

I'm not blaiming them at all.

 

But let me run this by you and see what you think.

 

A GM of a team has a talented but frequently injured young pitcher. He has been injury free for a while. The GM decides break camp with him as a reliever for the MLB club, then after approximately three weeks of inconsistent and infrequent use he decides he wants him to start so he send him back down to AAA to "stretch" his arm. He gets three starts in AAA then he gets sent back to the MLB club. Then from May 6 to May 17 he gets 3 starts in the majors. He doesn't do bad but cannot get out of the 5th inning. Then the GM and manager decide they want him in the bullpen where he is used approximately every two days until he comes up with an injury about a month later.

 

Would you say this is a good plan for a "fragile" young pitcher?

 

The Cubs always seem to take the "if he's going to get hurt, he's going to get hurt" approach to dealing with young arms.

[CUBZ99]

By the by, for those concerned, it looks like Angel Guzman should have another option year for next season.

 

Is that right? Outstanding.

 

As soon as he's "healthy" and pitching well, trade him before the duct tape and bailing wire break.

 

Or the Cubs could decide if they want him as a RP or a SP and not jerk him around.

 

The Cubs do plenty of things wrong, but you are really stretching to blame them for Guzman's fragility.

 

I'm not blaiming them at all.

 

But let me run this by you and see what you think.

 

A GM of a team has a talented but frequently injured young pitcher. He has been injury free for a while. The GM decides break camp with him as a reliever for the MLB club, then after approximately three weeks of inconsistent and infrequent use he decides he wants him to start so he send him back down to AAA to "stretch" his arm. He gets three starts in AAA then he gets sent back to the MLB club. Then from May 6 to May 17 he gets 3 starts in the majors. He doesn't do bad but cannot get out of the 5th inning. Then the GM and manager decide they want him in the bullpen where he is used approximately every two days until he comes up with an injury about a month later.

 

Would you say this is a good plan for a "fragile" young pitcher?

 

The Cubs always seem to take the "if he's going to get hurt, he's going to get hurt" approach to dealing with young arms.

 

I thought the reason he moved to the bullpen was that he was experiencing soreness after throwing more than a couple of innings. So the plan was to move him to the bullpen to prevent the soreness from occurring. Not saying that I agree with the action, but with Guzman's history of injuries, I don't necessarily disagree with trying to get all you can out of him while he is healthy.

[Guest]

He didn't get soreness till after he returned to the pen, I believe.

[NCCubFan]

He didn't get soreness till after he returned to the pen, I believe.

I think you're right about that. His problem before being moved to the pen was cramping.

[davearm]

He didn't get soreness till after he returned to the pen, I believe.

I think you're right about that. His problem before being moved to the pen was cramping.

Exactly.

 

Guzman was forced out of the rotation by recurring cramping/dehydration issues.

 

Piniella/Hendry responded to the situation in the only logical way -- by finding a way to use him without bumping him up against his pitch count threshold.

 

The "jerking him around" theory is highly flawed and a prime example of "blame it on Hendry/Piniella" syndrome.

[Athletics36]

Just to get back on subject but also wanted to point out that Tenn will most likely win the wild card for their division. This would probably add an extra week onto the season which ends Sept 3.