Does anyone have our W/L with Pie on the team?

[cubsfan5150]

I seen a stat that showed us to be 37-7 with him on the team. That's hard to believe, but if true, just remarkable.

[Fred Hornkohl]

Something is not quite right there...........

 

Team record by starting center fielder

 

CUBS are 25-18 when Jones starts at cf
CUBS are 5-7 when Soriano starts at cf
CUBS are 20-12 when Pie starts at cf
CUBS are 10-18 when Pagan starts at cf

[cubsfan5150]

Where do you guys find these off the wall stats at?

[Mizzou]

Right Fred, but he's asking what the Cubs record is when Pie is on the roster, not in the lineup.

[Fred Hornkohl]

Right Fred, but he's asking what the Cubs record is when Pie is on the roster, not in the lineup.

 

If the CUBS have lost 12 games with Pie in the lineup.... can their record possibly be 37-7 with him on the roster ???

[Fred Hornkohl]

Where do you guys find these off the wall stats at?

 

Went to Off the Wall Stats R Us. :wink:

[Fred Hornkohl]

OK... here's what I have.....

 

Up        Down      Record
04/17     05/10     11-08
06/03     07/13     18-11
08/08     .....     02-01
                   -----
         totals    41-20

[Coach C]

CUBS are 10-18 when Pagan starts at cf

 

All the more reason to just let him go after the season is over (Or whenever he comes off the DL)

[cubsfan5150]

Thanks man, that's still an excellent record with him up.

[NomarSammy]

I am pretty sure I heard someone on comcast say the other day when he was recalled that their record ths season when he appears in a game was 32-16, and now with these last 2 wins that would be 34-16. I know it is quirky, but it is a very interesting stat

[CubColtPacer]

CUBS are 10-18 when Pagan starts at cf

 

All the more reason to just let him go after the season is over (Or whenever he comes off the DL)

 

For all the reasons to let Pagan go, that's not one of them. Most of Pagan's starts are against left-handers, and the Cubs have simply been bad offensively against left-handers.

[CubColtPacer]

I am pretty sure I heard someone on comcast say the other day when he was recalled that their record ths season when he appears in a game was 32-16, and now with these last 2 wins that would be 34-16. I know it is quirky, but it is a very interesting stat

 

34-17. He pinch-hit on Wednesday and the Cubs lost.

[Fred Hornkohl]

CUBS are 10-18 when Pagan starts at cf

 

All the more reason to just let him go after the season is over (Or whenever he comes off the DL)

 

For all the reasons to let Pagan go, that's not one of them. Most of Pagan's starts are against left-handers, and the Cubs have simply been bad offensively against left-handers.

 

Good point, CCP.

 

Pagans' starts:

 

Against LH pitchers (4-16).........

 

Gm#    Date       Opponent         Score  Starter         Opp Starter
32  Thu 05/10    Pittsburgh        4- 6  Zambrano        Maholm        
33  Fri 05/11  @ Philadelphia  N   2- 7  Hill            Hamels        
36  Mon 05/14  @ New York      N   4- 5  Marquis         Glavine       
39  Thu 05/17  @ New York          5- 6  Guzman          Vargas        
40  Fri 05/18    Chicago (AL)      6- 3  Lilly           Beuhrle       
44  Wed 05/23  @ San Diego     N   1- 2  Marshall        Wells         
47  Sat 05/26  @ Los Angeles       4- 2  Zambrano        Hendrickson   
48  Sun 05/27  @ Los Angeles       1- 2  Hill            Wolf          
50  Tue 05/29    Florida       N   4- 9  Marquis         Willis        
53  Sat 06/02    Atlanta           3- 5  Hill            James         
63  Tue 06/12    Seattle       N   3- 5  Hill            Washburn      
75  Mon 06/25    Colorado      N  10- 9  Marquis         Francis       
83  Wed 07/04  @ Washington        0- 6  Hill            Chico         
85  Fri 07/06  @ Pittsburgh    N   4- 8  Marquis         Maholm        
87  Sun 07/08  @ Pittsburgh        2- 6  Zambrano        Youman        
90  Sun 07/15    Houston           7- 6  Marquis         Rodriguez     
92  Tue 07/17    San Francisco N   2- 4  Marshall        Zito          
104  Mon 07/30    Philadelphia  N   1- 4  Lilly           Hamels        
110  Sun 08/05    New York      N   3- 8  Marquis         Glavine       
111  Mon 08/06  @ Houston       N   1- 2  Hill            Rodriguez     

 

Against RH pitchers (6-2)..........

 

Gm#    Date       Opponent         Score  Starter         Opp Starter
42  Sun 05/20    Chicago (AL)      6-10  Zambrano        Contreras     
74  Sun 06/24  @ Chicago (AL)      3- 0  Marshall        Contreras     
77  Wed 06/27    Colorado          6- 4  Zambrano        Hirsch        
79  Sat 06/30    Milwaukee         4-13  Marshall        Sheets        
80  Sun 07/01    Milwaukee         5- 1  Marquis         Bush          
81  Mon 07/02  @ Washington        7- 2  Lilly           Simontacchi   
82  Tue 07/03  @ Washington        3- 1  Zambrano        Redding       
103  Sun 07/29  @ Cincinnati        6- 0  Zambrano        Belisle       

 

 

vs.         CUBS overall     CUBS w/Pagan
Lefties     10-18   .357     04-16   .200
Righties    50-37   .575     06-02   .750

[NomarSammy]

I am pretty sure I heard someone on comcast say the other day when he was recalled that their record ths season when he appears in a game was 32-16, and now with these last 2 wins that would be 34-16. I know it is quirky, but it is a very interesting stat

 

34-17. He pinch-hit on Wednesday and the Cubs lost.

 

yep--forgot that one--my bad!

[abuck1220]

he's clearly a better cf than barrett is a catcher.

[Guest]

CUBS are 10-18 when Pagan starts at cf

 

All the more reason to just let him go after the season is over (Or whenever he comes off the DL)

 

For all the reasons to let Pagan go, that's not one of them. Most of Pagan's starts are against left-handers, and the Cubs have simply been bad offensively against left-handers.

 

Sounds like a good reason to let him go and get someone who is better against left handers.

[jjgman21]

he's clearly a better cf than barrett is a catcher.

 

I agree with the lack of correlation, but shouldn't Barrett's 30 OPS+ as a Padre make you stop grinding this ax at some point?

[nilodnayr]

he's clearly a better cf than barrett is a catcher.

 

I agree with the lack of correlation, but shouldn't Barrett's 30 OPS+ as a Padre make you stop grinding this ax at some point?

 

A) its 42 (you might have been a column off, he has 30 TBs)

B) its 104 ABs of split time

C) the man is coming off of 3 100+ OPS+ seasons (inwhich he increased every year)

D) Bowen had a -29 OPS+ for us (again in a very small sample size)

E) To your point though, you have to be naive if you think the trade was completely a baseball performance decision.

[Derwood]

"record with Felix on the roster" is one of the biggest stretches of statistics i've seen here in some time

[Ding Dong Johnson]

OK... here's what I have.....

 

Up        Down      Record
04/17     05/10     11-08
06/03     07/13     18-11
08/08     .....     02-01
                   -----
         totals    41-20

 

shouldn't that be 31-20?

[YearofDaCubs]

"record with Felix on the roster" is one of the biggest stretches of statistics i've seen here in some time

Considering the way Pie has been playing for us, I agree.

[biittner77]

"record with Felix on the roster" is one of the biggest stretches of statistics i've seen here in some time

Considering the way Pie has been playing for us, I agree.

 

Pie in the game means better all around OF defense. Any ball Pie gets to that Jones or Pagan couldn't means turning an XBH into an out.