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Sounds to good to be true. We're reading way too much into it, though. Marquis is not going to lose his spot in the rotation unless he's just epic-bad.

 

Imagine if we had Lilly and Meche.

 

He's had quite a few epic bad outings if you ask me. Last night is the kind of piss Lou off kind of outing that could force his hand.

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Sounds to good to be true. We're reading way too much into it, though. Marquis is not going to lose his spot in the rotation unless he's just epic-bad.

 

Imagine if we had Lilly and Meche.

 

He's had quite a few epic bad outings if you ask me. Last night is the kind of piss Lou off kind of outing that could force his hand.

 

I'm talking like five or six straight epic bad. Otherwise, I don't think Hendry will let Marquis be anything but a starter regardless of what Lou wants.

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Sounds to good to be true. We're reading way too much into it, though. Marquis is not going to lose his spot in the rotation unless he's just epic-bad.

 

Imagine if we had Lilly and Meche.

 

He's had quite a few epic bad outings if you ask me. Last night is the kind of piss Lou off kind of outing that could force his hand.

 

Yup his walking of Looper when he was trying to bunt, and his outings prior to the Arizona start, seems like a thing that would just really piss off Lou enough to change things up

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Sounds to good to be true. We're reading way too much into it, though. Marquis is not going to lose his spot in the rotation unless he's just epic-bad.

 

Imagine if we had Lilly and Meche.

 

He's had quite a few epic bad outings if you ask me. Last night is the kind of piss Lou off kind of outing that could force his hand.

 

I'm talking like five or six straight epic bad. Otherwise, I don't think Hendry will let Marquis be anything but a starter regardless of what Lou wants.

 

 

He's had 3 of 4 epic bad on two seperate occasions this year. He could get there. But I highly doubt it'll take 5 or 6 epic bad in a row for Piniella to make a change. Assuming yesterday was the 1st in what will become 5 or 6 in a row, do you really think Lou will let him go out and crap the bed against Philly, the Mets, Colorado (we're at 4 in a row now), Cincy and SF before making a change? If he doesn't mix in a good game against one of the next 3 opponents, I would not be the least bit surprised if he doesn't make his start against Cincy.

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I just, personally, can't imagine that Hendry will let one of his offseason prizes be relegated to bullpen duty unless he starts pitching like the worst pitcher in baseball.
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I just, personally, can't imagine that Hendry will let one of his offseason prizes be relegated to bullpen duty unless he starts pitching like the worst pitcher in baseball.
Ultimately that's Lou's decision, though. The GM makes decisions about who's on the roster; the manager is in charge of lineup decisions. Technically the GM can fire the manager for refusing to go along with the GM's wishes, but I doubt that the Trib would allow Jim to fire Lou and commit the new owners to paying the remainder of Lou's contract.
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I just, personally, can't imagine that Hendry will let one of his offseason prizes be relegated to bullpen duty unless he starts pitching like the worst pitcher in baseball.

 

But my point is that if he goes on another run of these disaster starts, he will look like the worst pitcher in baseball. His July ERA is 6.70. June was over 5. He's had just 2 QS since late May. He's on the verge of pitching like the worst pitcher in baseball already. Since his July 1 outing, his ERA has risen 0.9 points. His season ERA could reach 5 with just 2 more similarly bad outings.

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Well, I'd love to see him out of the rotation. Let's assume for the moment he does slide into the bullpen as a long relief man. Who replaces him in the rotation? Dempster seems to be the most likely choice, and then you'd make Marmol the closer. How would Dempster do as a starter? I'm not sure if it would be that much better than Marquis.
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Well, I'd love to see him out of the rotation. Let's assume for the moment he does slide into the bullpen as a long relief man. Who replaces him in the rotation? Dempster seems to be the most likely choice, and then you'd make Marmol the closer. How would Dempster do as a starter? I'm not sure if it would be that much better than Marquis.

 

I'd think Gallagher is next in-line, that is what Lou said.

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add in another 1 run effort from Marshall. Its pretty safe to say Marshall is severely underrated by some here who keep saying hes unreliable, or they dont trust him.
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Hill and Marshall are too young, better trade for some proven veterans who know how to win down the stretch.

 

 

Jose Contreras and Jack Morris?

 

 

 

Which one's older?

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