What are the possibilities?

[turn2]

More importantly, Gallagher has just 9 innings pitched at AAA. You can't expect a pitcher who's practically skipping AAA to come out and out-perform Rich Hill and Jason Marquis.

 

If you arrive at a point where you would make the switch, youre basically opting for someone who could be good vs someone you know is bad. Thats where one is at when they are ready to make such a decision. Its not bad to have options.

 

Right its not bad to have options thats what the minor leagues are for. However from your original post, you are basically advocating giving somebody a spot start or 2 to see this option, which is absurd. You dont take starts away from someobdy, just to give a kid a spot start or 2, while you are in a race. If somebody gets hurt, then by all means, move Gallagher, Guzman, whoever into the rotation and see what they can do.

 

You seem to be really wrestling with my original post. Ive cited it for the benefit of the discussion. Anyway, no, its conceivable to let one of the young guys start during a stretch of games situated closely together or even if not, you can just give everyone an extra day between starts. Not a big deal considering the dividends it can pay in the long run. And Im not as grim about their chances as you are. I feel like Marquis is going to struggle in half of his starts now...and that goes for Rich Hill too. Thats a coin flip so why not cultivate options while giving guys an extra day of rest?

 

 

I would like to see Gallagher given a chance in the rotation as spot duty though. Id like to see another option over Hill and Marquis who have been way too eratic.

[Keener98]

More importantly, Gallagher has just 9 innings pitched at AAA. You can't expect a pitcher who's practically skipping AAA to come out and out-perform Rich Hill and Jason Marquis.

 

If you arrive at a point where you would make the switch, youre basically opting for someone who could be good vs someone you know is bad. Thats where one is at when they are ready to make such a decision. Its not bad to have options.

 

Right its not bad to have options thats what the minor leagues are for. However from your original post, you are basically advocating giving somebody a spot start or 2 to see this option, which is absurd. You dont take starts away from someobdy, just to give a kid a spot start or 2, while you are in a race. If somebody gets hurt, then by all means, move Gallagher, Guzman, whoever into the rotation and see what they can do.

 

You seem to be really wrestling with my original post. Ive cited it for the benefit of the discussion. Anyway, no, its conceivable to let one of the young guys start during a stretch of games situated closely together or even if not, you can just give everyone an extra day between starts. Not a big deal considering the dividends it can pay in the long run. And Im not as grim about their chances as you are. I feel like Marquis is going to struggle in half of his starts now...and that goes for Rich Hill too. Thats a coin flip so why not cultivate options while giving guys an extra day of rest?

 

 

I would like to see Gallagher given a chance in the rotation as spot duty though. Id like to see another option over Hill and Marquis who have been way too eratic.

 

Im not struggling with anything in your post. Teams that are contending dont just give spot starts here and there. Its that simple. And really what will 1 spot start from Gallagher tell you? Numerous rookie pitchers have made a spot start and looked like Cy Young(Ryan O'Malley) and then go on to be nothing special.

[flynnhicks03]

Right, but we're nowhere near that point. Hill and Marquis haven't even been the worst starters this season for the Cubs.

 

I would argue that they have been our worst starters. Z has been pretty good lately, and you can't ague with 10 wins; Lilly has been better than expected; and Marshall has been solid (minus a start or two). Hill was great early on, but downright terrible lately. Marquis has been up and down, very inconsistent.

[Guest]

Right, but we're nowhere near that point. Hill and Marquis haven't even been the worst starters this season for the Cubs.

 

I would argue that they have been our worst starters. Z has been pretty good lately, and you can't ague with 10 wins; Lilly has been better than expected; and Marshall has been solid (minus a start or two). Hill was great early on, but downright terrible lately. Marquis has been up and down, very inconsistent.

uh-oh...

 

Here it comes.

[Tracer Bullet]

Right, but we're nowhere near that point. Hill and Marquis haven't even been the worst starters this season for the Cubs.

 

I would argue that they have been our worst starters. Z has been pretty good lately, and you can't ague with 10 wins; Lilly has been better than expected; and Marshall has been solid (minus a start or two). Hill was great early on, but downright terrible lately. Marquis has been up and down, very inconsistent.

uh-oh...

 

Here it comes.

 

He has a point. Have you ever tried to argue with a win, let alone 10!?!? It's terribly frustrating. They're so unpredictable.

[biittner77]

Although, if anyone has a good reason why Milwaukee has decided to use Gallardo out of the bullpen lately, I'd love to hear it.

 

Limit his innings so he still has something left for the stretch run and the playoffs? That would mean sacrficing a little bit of the present for a lot of the future. Unlike the Cubs, the Brewers seem to think that they could be good for a while and have decided to play it safe with a player that should be an important part of their continued success.

[fromthestretch]

Right, but we're nowhere near that point. Hill and Marquis haven't even been the worst starters this season for the Cubs.

 

I would argue that they have been our worst starters. Z has been pretty good lately, and you can't ague with 10 wins; Lilly has been better than expected; and Marshall has been solid (minus a start or two). Hill was great early on, but downright terrible lately. Marquis has been up and down, very inconsistent.

 

Pitcher A: .699 Opponent's OPS, 8.31 K/9, 1.14 WHIP

Pitcher B: .720 Opponent's OPS, 7.70 K/9, 1.30 WHIP

Pitcher C: .671 Opponent's OPS, 5.28 K/9, 1.26 WHIP

Pitcher D: .668 Opponent's OPS, 7.83 K/9, 1.09 WHIP

 

It's not like any of these four have been terrible this season, but I'm curious who you think has been the worst starter out of those four when you look at the numbers.

[seanimal]

I would argue that they have been our worst starters. Z has been pretty good lately, and you can't ague with 10 wins;

 

'till I'm blue in the face, actually.