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if texas' management is mentally challenged, that deal might have a shot!

 

Well, if you're looking for a team to rip off in a trade, Texas is the most likely option to agree to it.

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Saltalamacchia is good but i don't think he is worth giving up Murton and Marshall. I see a good future in both.

 

The reason I included Murton and Marshall is that I don't see either one in the long term plans for the Cubs. As I stated before, Marshall is the third slow-pitch, curve-ball, lefty in the rotation and Murton doesn't appear to have much of a future with the Cubs, so the impact to the team this year and in the future is minimal compared to what Salty would add.

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I don't see Atlanta trading Salty (who they absolutely love) for a Tiexera rental. Boras is going to take him to the highest bidder on the market in the offseason.
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if you want Salty, your going to need to trade a valuable young pitcher.

 

Salty for Hill and Murton would be the deal. I'd probably do it.

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Saltalamacchia is good but i don't think he is worth giving up Murton and Marshall. I see a good future in both.

 

If we had two Matt Murtons and two Sean Marshalls, I would trade all four for Saltalamacchia.

That would be ridiculous, Murton is patient at the plate and hits alot of doubles which will turn into homers, he also is a smart baserunner, not fast but smart.

Marchall's curve is very good and he can hit a dime 60 feat away, his control is astounding.

 

I won't address the other points (although I would take minor issue with some of them) but Murton is not a particularly smart baserunner. For example, he stopped at 3rd base when he could have scored easily for no real reason at all, and then got stranded there 4-5 times this year (including the game where he stopped at 3rd on a single that should have scored him, then a wild pitch should have scored him, but he just stood there and watched it).

he has to listen Mike quade, something that is very hard to do, Quade sucks, he holds everyone

 

You must have been sitting behind me last Monday night against the Rockies. Fontenot doubled and Lee followed up with a single. Fontenot was held at 3rd. The guy behind me went ballistic.

 

It would have been a close play, but I'd much rather have Ramirez up with 2 men in scoring position. Quade has done fine this year. I would never want to be a 3rd base coach, every move is second guessed. If you hold a runner, some are upset you didn't send him. If you send him and the runner is thrown out, people are mad you sent them.

 

It is truly a lose-lose situation.

i didn't see the play but fontenot can run so more often than not i'd send him,, how about the sac fly that was a really hard play and fontenot made it, he can flat out run.

 

Two things that factor into whether or not to send a runner on a potentially close play are the number of outs and who's up next. If Soriano's on first with no outs and Theriot doubles, you probably don't send Soriano unless you're positive he makes it. With Lee and Ramirez following, he has a very good chance of scoring that inning. You don't want to run yourself out of a potentially big inning.

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Saltalamacchia is good but i don't think he is worth giving up Murton and Marshall. I see a good future in both.

 

If we had two Matt Murtons and two Sean Marshalls, I would trade all four for Saltalamacchia.

That would be ridiculous, Murton is patient at the plate and hits alot of doubles which will turn into homers, he also is a smart baserunner, not fast but smart.

Marchall's curve is very good and he can hit a dime 60 feat away, his control is astounding.

 

That's absolutely laughable. The Braves would never take Murton + Marshall for Salty, so we'd be the dumbest team in history not to do it.

 

And Marshall's control is not "astounding" by any means. He walked 59 in 125 innings last year, which is just not acceptable. He's obviously been a lot better this year, but "astounding?" Seriously?

 

I think we've got another user to add to the "unrealistically high on Matt Murton" club, and now the founding member of the "unrealistically high on Sean Marshall" club.

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Saltalamacchia is good but i don't think he is worth giving up Murton and Marshall. I see a good future in both.

 

If we had two Matt Murtons and two Sean Marshalls, I would trade all four for Saltalamacchia.

That would be ridiculous, Murton is patient at the plate and hits alot of doubles which will turn into homers, he also is a smart baserunner, not fast but smart.

Marchall's curve is very good and he can hit a dime 60 feat away, his control is astounding.

 

If you think Marshall and Murton are this great, wait till you see Saltalamacchia and you'll be ready to enshrine him in the HOF.

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I do think people are down on Murton because of his poor play this season. Truth is he did put up a .800 ops in his first full season. That is pretty good. I still think he will put up a better ops than Soriano in a couple of years.

 

As for the trade idea, I think Texas would just skip us and get Saltalamachia for Texiera.

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I like both Murton and Marshall, but if trading them would net us Salty, I wouldn't hesitate to make that deal.

 

Salty is an excellent defensive catcher and isn't bad with the bat. I've had the chance to see him play, and he has the skills.

 

Furthermore, word I've heard is that he's an excellent teammate and is great with his pitchers as well.

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And getting the name printed on his shirt would make bonus money in the team store - SALTALAMACCHIA is ten letters longer than HILL.
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How bout Pie straight up for Saltalamacchia? ATL gets a young, inexpensive CF to replace Jones. Cubs get a young, inexpensive catcher. Personally, I'd keep Pie and make defense a priority at catcher.

 

But if they'd take Marshall and Murton for him, that's a no brainer.

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How bout Pie straight up for Saltalamacchia? ATL gets a young, inexpensive CF to replace Jones. Cubs get a young, inexpensive catcher. Personally, I'd keep Pie and make defense a priority at catcher.

 

But if they'd take Marshall and Murton for him, that's a no brainer.

 

I think the Braves would want more than Pie in a deal for Salty. Pie and a pitcher would get their attention.

 

Honestly, I don't think Murton and Marshall would get the Braves to bite. In fact, they could probably do better from other teams.

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