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When did he switch back to the hockey style mask. I know at the first of the season he was wearing the old style one.

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Koyie Hill convinced him to switch back - I guess they added more concussion protection to the hockey style mask.
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I just hope Boib and Len will stop talking about it, it seems like they talk about it every single game now at least twice a game
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Yeah, the "old school" type catchers mask rests right along the space between your lower lip and chin. I noticed Barrett's stitches are along his lower lip, so that prolly explains why he switched?
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Maybe the old one will help him CATCH THE BALL for a crucial play at the plate.

 

Yeah, and maybe the outfielders will eventually quit rolling the ball to home plate.

 

The blame lies completely with Jacque Jones on that play. While his throw was on line, it was a worm burner. Jose Vidro was the runner, for crying out loud. If you can't gun down Jose Vidro (nevermind that Vidro almost came to a complete stop halfway between 3rd and home) on a shallow single, you have no business playing an outfield spot.

 

Vidro doesn't run much better than Jim Thome.

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Maybe the old one will help him CATCH THE BALL for a crucial play at the plate.

 

Yeah, and maybe the outfielders will eventually quit rolling the ball to home plate.

 

The blame lies completely with Jacque Jones on that play. While his throw was on line, it was a worm burner. Jose Vidro was the runner, for crying out loud. If you can't gun down Jose Vidro (nevermind that Vidro almost came to a complete stop halfway between 3rd and home) on a shallow single, you have no business playing an outfield spot.

 

Vidro doesn't run much better than Jim Thome.

 

The throw was slow, but it was also right to Barrett. There is absolutely no reason he shouldn't have been able to cleanly make the tag.

 

The blame does not lie "completely" with Jones. MB should've held on to the ball.

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The throw was slow, but it was also right to Barrett. There is absolutely no reason he shouldn't have been able to cleanly make the tag.

 

The blame does not lie "completely" with Jones. MB should've held on to the ball.

 

I'm just going to have to disagree with you on that one. The catcher has a guy barreling for home. He's trying to block the plate, prepare for a possible collision, field a throw and apply a tag. He's wearing a glove that was not designed to field slow rolling ground balls.

 

Jones was in shallow RF when he fielded that ball. That throw should have made it on the fly. Instead, it bounced and bounced to the point it was a slow roller by the time it got to Barrett in the fairly thick infield grass. Significant time was lost on a slow rolling throw in comparison to a throw made on the fly. Couple that in with the fact the runner was slow and even hesitated on his turn at third, and all the blame lies on Jacque's throw. It was pathetic even though it was online.

 

A lollipop throw would have gotten to Barrett quicker than the worm burner he actually threw.

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The throw was slow, but it was also right to Barrett. There is absolutely no reason he shouldn't have been able to cleanly make the tag.

 

The blame does not lie "completely" with Jones. MB should've held on to the ball.

 

I'm just going to have to disagree with you on that one. The catcher has a guy barreling for home. He's trying to block the plate, prepare for a possible collision, field a throw and apply a tag. He's wearing a glove that was not designed to field slow rolling ground balls.

 

Jones was in shallow RF when he fielded that ball. That throw should have made it on the fly. Instead, it bounced and bounced to the point it was a slow roller by the time it got to Barrett in the fairly thick infield grass. Significant time was lost on a slow rolling throw in comparison to a throw made on the fly. Couple that in with the fact the runner was slow and even hesitated on his turn at third, and all the blame lies on Jacque's throw. It was pathetic even though it was online.

 

A lollipop throw would have gotten to Barrett quicker than the worm burner he actually threw.

 

I can agree that it's not completely on Jones. I'd break it down at 90% Jones and 10% Barrett. You'd like to see the catcher make that play, but it's a lot harder for him to make the play than a RF to make the throw Jones had to make.

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I'd also like to add that I'm not being a Barrett apologist. He's been pretty bad behind the plate this year. I have never seen more balls get by Barrett than I have this year. Many seemed like fairly easy balls to keep in front of him.

 

But, if you want your catcher to have a decent chance of tagging a runner out at home, you have to give him something he can catch. Jacque Jones obviously went to the Juan Pierre baseball academy on throwing.

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I'd also like to add that I'm not being a Barrett apologist. He's been pretty bad behind the plate this year. I have never seen more balls get by Barrett than I have this year. Many seemed like fairly easy balls to keep in front of him.

 

But, if you want your catcher to have a decent chance of tagging a runner out at home, you have to give him something he can catch. Jacque Jones obviously went to the Juan Pierre baseball academy on throwing.

 

I hear you. Barrett has been a huge disappointment this year and I'm not prone to taking his side or defending him when he makes mistakes. But you simply have to have a better throw from RF in that situation.

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The throw was slow, but it was also right to Barrett. There is absolutely no reason he shouldn't have been able to cleanly make the tag.

 

The blame does not lie "completely" with Jones. MB should've held on to the ball.

 

I'm just going to have to disagree with you on that one. The catcher has a guy barreling for home. He's trying to block the plate, prepare for a possible collision, field a throw and apply a tag. He's wearing a glove that was not designed to field slow rolling ground balls.

 

Jones was in shallow RF when he fielded that ball. That throw should have made it on the fly. Instead, it bounced and bounced to the point it was a slow roller by the time it got to Barrett in the fairly thick infield grass. Significant time was lost on a slow rolling throw in comparison to a throw made on the fly. Couple that in with the fact the runner was slow and even hesitated on his turn at third, and all the blame lies on Jacque's throw. It was pathetic even though it was online.

 

A lollipop throw would have gotten to Barrett quicker than the worm burner he actually threw.

 

Oh I know the throw completely sucked, but the fact that Barrett had the ball right in front of him and then lost it. He can block the plate and pick up the ball at the same time, perhaps with a bare hand/glove combo.

 

I'm just sick and tired of watching both Jones and Barrett defensively suck it up this season and also be pretty awful at the plate (obviously much more Jones than Barrett). I really wish we could get a chance to see what Soto can do at the major league level.

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