5/6 Post-Game: Inexplicably Bizarre Win

[Outshined_One]

Been awhile since we had one of these!

[Derwood]

that was a "what it's going good" win. There were so many reasons the Cubs should have lost

[sunnydoo]

Great win by the Cubbies today with a lot of people involved. Kind of thing that can get a freight train rolling.

 

2 reasons for the bizarreness:

 

1- Lou starting DeRosa in RF.

2- 12 man staff with the all-heralded Loogy. Need to go back to the 11 as i am getting old and cant take many more of these wins w/o serious heart complications.

 

wow did everyone contribute though.

Edited May 6, 2007 by sunnydoo

[adamb0719]

Can I get a quick recap of what happened? I quit watching after the top of the 8th, and the game threads take way to long to read.

[Derwood]

Great win by the Cubbies today with a lot of people involved. Kind of thing that can get a freight train rolling.

 

2 reasons for the bizarreness:

 

1- Lou starting DeRosa in RF.

2- 12 man staff with the all-heralded Loogy. Need to go back to the 11 as i am getting old and cant take many more of these wins w/o serious heart complications.

 

wow did everyone contribute though.

 

but how will lou use 4 pitchers in the 6th inning then?

[Derwood]

Can I get a quick recap of what happened? I quit watching after the top of the 8th, and the game threads take way to long to read.

 

Cubs tied it in the bottom of the 9th on a Floyd single (Marquis pinch run), Ward single, and Theriot single.

 

Cubs had winning run on 3rd with 1 out in the 10th but couldn't score.

 

Cubs win in the 11th on a Murton double, Blanco single, Ward single

[Brian]

Can I get a quick recap of what happened? I quit watching after the top of the 8th, and the game threads take way to long to read.

 

 

BOTTOM OF THE 9TH

- C. Cordero relieved J. Rauch

- C. Floyd hit for C. Izturis

- C. Floyd walked

- D. Ward hit for N. Cotts

- J. Marquis ran for C. Floyd

- D. Ward singled to left, J. Marquis to second

- A. Soriano flied out to right

- R. Theriot singled to right, J. Marquis scored, D. Ward to third

- D. Lee intentionally walked, R. Theriot to second

- A. Ramirez grounded into fielder's choice, D. Ward out at home, R. Theriot to third, D. Lee to second

- J. Jones grounded out to first

 

1 runs, 2 hits, 0 errors

 

BOTTOM OF THE 10TH

- R. Wagner relieved C. Cordero

- M. Murton doubled to deep left

- M. Barrett grounded out to third

- H. Blanco hit for R. Dempster

- H. Blanco singled to right, M. Murton to third

- D. Ward singled to left, M. Murton scored, H. Blanco to second

[sunnydoo]

Can I get a quick recap of what happened? I quit watching after the top of the 8th, and the game threads take way to long to read.

 

9th: Floyd (PH for Izturis) walked, Marquis PR. Ward (PH for Howry) singled. Soriano k. Theriot singled- RBI. Lee IBB. ARam FC. JJ 3 unassisted.

 

10th: Ward to LF, Soriano to 2b, JJ to CF, Theriot to SS.

 

Murton doubled. Barrett out on 1hop to 3b...the right side of the infield is the other direction. Blanco (PH for Dempster) singled to right, Murton to 3b. Ward singled to LF- RBI.

 

Cubs Win.

Edited May 6, 2007 by sunnydoo

[Soul]

Lou's talking up Guzman right now.

 

Good for him! Great performance by Gooz today. Kinda getting lost in all the late-inning drama.

[Outshined_One]

Lou singing Guzman's praises in the post-game press conference. Nice.

[erik316wttn]

I'd say keep Soriano at 2B and that solves your OF problem. You can play Jones, Pie, and Murton without issue.

[Brian]

hahaha Lou's press conference, it was funny him telling how he asked Soriano about 2nd.

 

 

Said Guzman pitched really good, pretty impressed.

[Brian]

:lol: Z picked up Ward in the celebration. Hopefully he didn't hurt his back.

[Soul]

It's certainly nice to be able to plunk Sori in as an IF in a pinch, though it shouldn't happen more than a couple times all year.

[cubfan1955]

The 9th and 10th inning drama would not have been necessary if our relievers could throw strikes. The tying and go ahead run for the Nats were both walks. Hopefully Lou's message was received by that group today.

[Outshined_One]

The 9th and 10th inning drama would not have been necessary if our relievers could throw strikes. The tying and go ahead run for the Nats were both walks. Hopefully Lou's message was received by that group today.

 

I still can't make sense of this point of view considering that Eyre came into the 6th and promptly gave up a double on the first batter.

 

He had Wuertz and Ohman warming up at the same time. I'm convinced his plan was to use Wuertz only for a batter or two rather than the entire inning. Howry started warming up when Ohman came in, to boot.

 

I don't think any messages were sent. I think Lou didn't have a plan in the 7th inning.

[Banedon]

hahaha Lou's press conference, it was funny him telling how he asked Soriano about 2nd.

 

 

Said Guzman pitched really good, pretty impressed.

 

I heard the Guzman part, but missed the part about him asking Soriano about 2nd..

[cubfan1955]

The 9th and 10th inning drama would not have been necessary if our relievers could throw strikes. The tying and go ahead run for the Nats were both walks. Hopefully Lou's message was received by that group today.

 

I still can't make sense of this point of view considering that Eyre came into the 6th and promptly gave up a double on the first batter.

 

He had Wuertz and Ohman warming up at the same time. I'm convinced his plan was to use Wuertz only for a batter or two rather than the entire inning. Howry started warming up when Ohman came in, to boot.

 

I don't think any messages were sent. I think Lou didn't have a plan in the 7th inning.

I think he had a plan. I just don't think it included Eyer and Weurtz walking hitters back to back. I clearly think removing Weurtz after the walk was a message.

[Soul]

The 9th and 10th inning drama would not have been necessary if our relievers could throw strikes. The tying and go ahead run for the Nats were both walks. Hopefully Lou's message was received by that group today.

 

I still can't make sense of this point of view considering that Eyre came into the 6th and promptly gave up a double on the first batter.

 

He had Wuertz and Ohman warming up at the same time. I'm convinced his plan was to use Wuertz only for a batter or two rather than the entire inning. Howry started warming up when Ohman came in, to boot.

 

I don't think any messages were sent. I think Lou didn't have a plan in the 7th inning.

 

I think you're wrong. His plan just didn't work.

[David]

Can I get a quick recap of what happened? I quit watching after the top of the 8th, and the game threads take way to long to read.

 

Cubs tied it in the bottom of the 9th on a Floyd single (Marquis pinch run), Ward single, and Theriot single.

 

Cubs had winning run on 3rd with 1 out in the 10th but couldn't score.

 

Cubs win in the 11th on a Murton double, Blanco single, Ward single

 

:-s

 

Cubs won in 10.

[Derwood]

Can I get a quick recap of what happened? I quit watching after the top of the 8th, and the game threads take way to long to read.

 

Cubs tied it in the bottom of the 9th on a Floyd single (Marquis pinch run), Ward single, and Theriot single.

 

Cubs had winning run on 3rd with 1 out in the 10th but couldn't score.

 

Cubs win in the 11th on a Murton double, Blanco single, Ward single

 

:-s

 

Cubs won in 10.

 

yeah, well, yeah

[Radar3454]

hahaha Lou's press conference, it was funny him telling how he asked Soriano about 2nd.

 

 

Said Guzman pitched really good, pretty impressed.

 

I heard the Guzman part, but missed the part about him asking Soriano about 2nd..

 

I missed it also - can someone elaborate?

[Outshined_One]

I think you're wrong. His plan just didn't work.

 

Fair enough. Let's see if there was one. Looking back over the inning...

 

Washington - Top of 7th

Scott Eyre pitching for Chicago

K Casto flied out to left.

J Wilson walked.

R Belliard hit for S Hill.

M Wuertz relieved S Eyre.

R Belliard walked, J Wilson to second.

W Ohman relieved M Wuertz.

F Lopez grounded out to first, J Wilson to third, R Belliard to second.

D Young hit for R Langerhans.

J Jones in center field.

M Murton in right field.

B Howry relieved W Ohman.

D Young singled to center, J Wilson and R Belliard scored.

R Zimmerman struck out looking.

 

Ohman and Wuertz were warming up to start the inning. Eyre had his troubles in the previous inning with the leadoff double and has Remlinger-like R/L splits. He faced a lefty (out) and a righty (walk) and was promptly pulled.

 

My guess?

 

Wuertz and Ohman were warming up in case Eyre ran into trouble with anyone. Wuertz was never going to face the lefties. If Eyre got two outs and walked Lopez, Ohman would have gone in to face Lopez and turn him around, as he was a switch hitter who was less effective from the right side and Piniella likely planned on using Ohman to turn him around. With Langerhans (lefty) in line after Lopez, he could leave Ohman on the mound for a few batters if trouble came up.

 

Since Eyre got in trouble with Wilson (righty) and Belliard (righty) was on deck, in came Wuertz.

 

The problem is, I don't think Lou realized that Acta would PH for Langerhans with Young (switch) or that the inning would get to Zimmerman (righty) in the first place. By the time trouble came up, he got Howry up in the pen to face the righties. The rest is history.

 

Honestly, after all of that analysis, I don't think he did a very good job of planning ahead. I sure don't think it was some sort of fiery statement about how the bullpen should start throwing strikes or whatever.

[cubfan1955]

I think you're wrong. His plan just didn't work.

 

Fair enough. Let's see if there was one. Looking back over the inning...

 

Washington - Top of 7th

Scott Eyre pitching for Chicago

K Casto flied out to left.

J Wilson walked.

R Belliard hit for S Hill.

M Wuertz relieved S Eyre.

R Belliard walked, J Wilson to second.

W Ohman relieved M Wuertz.

F Lopez grounded out to first, J Wilson to third, R Belliard to second.

D Young hit for R Langerhans.

J Jones in center field.

M Murton in right field.

B Howry relieved W Ohman.

D Young singled to center, J Wilson and R Belliard scored.

R Zimmerman struck out looking.

 

Ohman and Wuertz were warming up to start the inning. Eyre had his troubles in the previous inning with the leadoff double and has Remlinger-like R/L splits. He faced a lefty (out) and a righty (walk) and was promptly pulled.

 

My guess?

 

Wuertz and Ohman were warming up in case Eyre ran into trouble with anyone. Wuertz was never going to face the lefties. If Eyre got two outs and walked Lopez, Ohman would have gone in to face Lopez and turn him around, as he was a switch hitter who was less effective from the right side and Piniella likely planned on using Ohman to turn him around. With Langerhans (lefty) in line after Lopez, he could leave Ohman on the mound for a few batters if trouble came up.

 

Since Eyre got in trouble with Wilson (righty) and Belliard (righty) was on deck, in came Wuertz.

 

The problem is, I don't think Lou realized that Acta would PH for Langerhans with Young (switch) or that the inning would get to Zimmerman (righty) in the first place. By the time trouble came up, he got Howry up in the pen to face the righties. The rest is history.

 

Honestly, after all of that analysis, I don't think he did a very good job of planning ahead. I sure don't think it was some sort of fiery statement about how the bullpen should start throwing strikes or whatever.

Since when does Wuertz only pitch to righties? I think had he not walked his man he would have stayed in. Eyre walked a batter and was pulled. Weurtz came in and walked a batter and was pulled. Message sent.

[TB_11]

Can I get a quick recap of what happened? I quit watching after the top of the 8th, and the game threads take way to long to read.

 

 

BOTTOM OF THE 9TH

- C. Cordero relieved J. Rauch

- C. Floyd hit for C. Izturis

- C. Floyd walked

- D. Ward hit for N. Cotts

- J. Marquis ran for C. Floyd

- D. Ward singled to left, J. Marquis to second

- A. Soriano flied out to right

- R. Theriot singled to right, J. Marquis scored, D. Ward to third

- D. Lee intentionally walked, R. Theriot to second

- A. Ramirez grounded into fielder's choice, D. Ward out at home, R. Theriot to third, D. Lee to second

- J. Jones grounded out to first

 

1 runs, 2 hits, 0 errors

 

BOTTOM OF THE 10TH

- R. Wagner relieved C. Cordero

- M. Murton doubled to deep left

- M. Barrett grounded out to third

- H. Blanco hit for R. Dempster

- H. Blanco singled to right, M. Murton to third

- D. Ward singled to left, M. Murton scored, H. Blanco to second

 

I know it ended up working out since Marquis scored from second Theriot's single, and I know we're short an offensive player since Cedeno was sent down and Guzman was brought up, but having a starting pitcher pinch run makes no sense.