This season is already over.

[soapy]

one thing to consider is that this team is having the same problems the Cubs have had the last several years. they can't get on base and they can't score runs consistantly. Lou is not putting the best possible team on the field either, IMO.

 

you can say it's early, and it is, but it's the same thing as last year, and 2005, and so on...

 

that's why people upset. things can't change over night, of course, and they may not change enough this season at all. coaches/managers can only do so much when they still have the same types of players that got them into this mess.

[Sammy Sofa]

I'm not going to write off the season just yet, but I'm definitely starting to panic. How could you *NOT* panic with what you've seen? It's typical Cubs, find-a-way-to-lose baseball.

 

I think the difference between this year's team is that last year's team really was bad enough to lose 96 games. They deserved to lose 96 games. That team, on paper, was horrid. This team really is not that bad on paper, and their luck evens out or even stops being absurdly bad, they'll be better than the 2006 Cubs.

 

That's barely an accomplishment.

[rocket]

2005 astros record on june 7th, 2005: 21-35

[soapy]

2005 astros record on june 7th, 2005: 21-35

et tu, Rocket?

[rocket]

2005 astros record on june 7th, 2005: 21-35

et tu, Rocket?

 

i'll try the optimistic approach this season

[soapy]

2005 astros record on june 7th, 2005: 21-35

et tu, Rocket?

 

i'll try the optimistic approach this season

i guess someone has to

[JeffH]

2005 astros record on june 7th, 2005: 21-35

 

Houston Astros - an actual major league baseball franchise

 

Chicago Cubs - a sideshow that belongs under a big top tent

[YearofDaCubs]

2005 astros record on june 7th, 2005: 21-35

I remember the same thing was brought up in 2006 as well. We're not the Astros, and we're definitely not the same team. What they did is rare and I don't expect the Cubs to follow suit. I hate seeing the 2005 Astros argument.

[Derwood]

2005 astros record on june 7th, 2005: 21-35

I remember the same thing was brought up in 2006 as well. We're not the Astros, and we're definitely not the same team. What they did is rare and I don't expect the Cubs to follow suit. I hate seeing the 2005 Astros argument.

 

If the Cubs sign Clemens in May, you may be on to something

[rocket]

2005 astros record on june 7th, 2005: 21-35

I remember the same thing was brought up in 2006 as well. We're not the Astros, and we're definitely not the same team. What they did is rare and I don't expect the Cubs to follow suit. I hate seeing the 2005 Astros argument.

 

THE POINT IS THAT IT'S NOT EVEN MAY YET

[rocket]

2005 astros record on june 7th, 2005: 21-35

 

Houston Astros - an actual major league baseball franchise

 

Chicago Cubs - a sideshow that belongs under a big top tent

 

we've won more world series than the astros

[Ding Dong Johnson]

http://www.stairropes.com/images/hemp32rope.jpg

 

You like to dance on the hip hop spots

And you cruise to grooves to connect the dots

Not just urban she like the pop

'Cause she was Livin' La Vida Loca

 

http://www.kdwp.state.ks.us/var/news/storage/images/hunting/fur_harvest/furbearer_gallery/beaver_castor_canadensis/11744-2-eng-US/beaver_castor_canadensis_imagelarge.jpg

 

She had dumps like a truck, truck, truck

Thighs like what, what, what

Baby move your butt, butt, butt

I think i'll sing it again

 

http://www.hotrod.com/projectbuild/113_0406_project_g.jpg

[hitamprun]

In the last 10 years or so, it is common place to see teams have great 2nd halves to make a post-season run. The Marlins did it in 03, and the Astros did it in both 04 and 05 when they were 15+ games below .500 during the first half.

 

For whatever reason, these teams were very resiliant, and found a way to turn it around, and really be completely different teams in the 2nd half. Does this mean the Cubs can do the same? No it doesn't, because you don't know if they will have the same collective ability to turn the tables.

 

The Cubs have a few things going for them - 143 games left, a crappy division and they have talent. Now, it is possible that there blend of talent does not make a good team, and we won't know that until much farther into the season.

[C.C.]

2005 astros record on june 7th, 2005: 21-35

I remember the same thing was brought up in 2006 as well. We're not the Astros, and we're definitely not the same team. What they did is rare and I don't expect the Cubs to follow suit. I hate seeing the 2005 Astros argument.

 

THE POINT IS THAT IT'S NOT EVEN MAY YET

 

You're right it's not May, but I promise you when May roles around you are going to have people say it's not even June yet. The fact remains this is the same piss poor baseball we saw last year. Nothing has changed. Instead of losing by 3-5 runs we lose by 1-2 runs. No matter what we lose.

[Pushfrog98]

War's over, man. Wormer dropped the big one.

 

Over? Did you say "over"? Nothing is over until we decide it is! Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Hell no!

And it ain't over now. 'Cause when the goin' gets tough...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

the tough get goin'! Who's with me? Let's go!

 

 

 

 

What happened to the Delta I used to know? Where's the spirit? Where's the guts, huh? "Ooh, we're afraid to go with you Bluto, we might get in trouble." Well just kiss my ass from now on! Not me! I'm not gonna take this. Wormer, he's a dead man! Marmalard, dead! Niedermeyer...

 

 

LET'S DO IT!

[badgercub]

I was at the game last night and I must say I am still seeing a lot of the same things that plagued last years team. Runners on second and third with nobody out and the top of the order can't drive them in. Runners on first and second in a tie game, Michael Barrett at the plate with a 3-0 count and he swings (regardless of whether it was a strike or not I just think that is poor fundamental baseball, the next pitch he lined out to left on a web gem by Jenkins). The problem that guys getting payed millions of dollars have putting down a sac bunt. Scott Eyre getting lit up by left handed hitters. Pitchers getting ahead in counts and being unable to put hitters away because they refuse to challenge the guy at the plate and continually try to make a perfect pitch. Totally frustrating!!!!

 

On a positive note, I did catch a foul ball at the game last night.

[YearofDaCubs]

2005 astros record on june 7th, 2005: 21-35

I remember the same thing was brought up in 2006 as well. We're not the Astros, and we're definitely not the same team. What they did is rare and I don't expect the Cubs to follow suit. I hate seeing the 2005 Astros argument.

 

THE POINT IS THAT IT'S NOT EVEN MAY YET

My point is I hate seeing the 2005 Astros come up. That really worked out for the "Cubs" very well last year too. The Cubs are what they are right now. They can't win close games and their bullpen has blown quite a few games. It's still early yes, but the bleeding has to stop and we need to get at least a small winning streak going. We've taken care of one issue by getting rid of Miller, now we need to work on getting the bullpen in working order and hopefully getting rid of Izturis. And to think before the season started I thought our bullpen was a strength.

[rocket]

My point is I hate seeing the 2005 Astros come up. That really worked out for the "Cubs" very well last year too. The Cubs are what they are right now. They can't win close games and their bullpen has blown quite a few games. It's still early yes, but the bleeding has to stop and we need to get at least a small winning streak going. We've taken care of one issue by getting rid of Miller, now we need to work on getting the bullpen in working order and hopefully getting rid of Izturis. And to think before the season started I thought our bullpen was a strength.

 

95% of all teams in the history of baseball have had a 19 game stretch where they looked bad, couldn't do things right, lost close games, couldn't execute, etc.

 

There's a good chance the Cubs will suck this year, but to write the season off after 19 games is ridiculous.

 

The 2003 Cubs had a stretch from 6/25-7/18 where they went 6-14. They came back in a division that was a joke, with an offense that wasn't that great.

 

People need to settle down.

[rynefan]

Of course the season is not over until you're mathematically eliminated, that's obvious. But what signs have any of us seen that they can turn this around, when they can't even win more than two in a row? I haven't seen much from the team, coaches or players to show any fire. I haven't seen a leader come forward. Barrett was the big "rah rah" man before the season started, but who is taking that role now? This team just seems LOST.

 

I hope it changes, but it makes me physically sick after three weeks to have a .500 record be a goal. This team is MUCH better than that, and they need to start playing like it.

[Warpticon]

Bingo!!!!

 

Amazing that after 99 years of failure, fans who write the team off early are labeled "fatalists".

 

That's what's hilarious.

 

In April? Damn straight.

[Soul]

I'm not going to write off the season just yet, but I'm definitely starting to panic. How could you *NOT* panic with what you've seen? It's typical Cubs, find-a-way-to-lose baseball.

 

I think the difference between this year's team is that last year's team really was bad enough to lose 96 games. They deserved to lose 96 games. That team, on paper, was horrid. This team really is not that bad on paper, and their luck evens out or even stops being absurdly bad, they'll be better than the 2006 Cubs.

 

Not that bad on paper, true. Many teams perform below expectations for the entire year though. It happens. The other thing is, we could be significantly better than last year and *still* be a bad team.

[neely crenshaw]

my worry is that when the bats wake up and get consisitent..the starting pitching will return to there normal performance...which means we will lose 1 run games 10-9.

[CubinNY]

I hope it changes, but it makes me physically sick after three weeks to have a .500 record be a goal. This team is MUCH better than that, and they need to start playing like it.

 

I don't think so. I never understood why people were fired up about the season.

 

I think the Cubs are a better than their record but not by much.

[soapy]

my worry is that when the bats wake up and get consisitent..the starting pitching will return to there normal performance...which means we will lose 1 run games 10-9.

 

agreed. it's concerning that the Cubs haven't been able to take advantage of some great outings by Lilly and Marquis as I don't really expect them to continue.

[Soul]

my worry is that when the bats wake up and get consisitent..the starting pitching will return to there normal performance...which means we will lose 1 run games 10-9.

 

 

.....which is what usually happens to really bad teams.