Mike Marshall on ESPN1000 (Prior, Wood talk)

[YearofDaCubs]

ESPN1000 just had Mike Marshall on not too long ago, and of course the first question that was asked was pertaining to Prior. They mentioned how Marshall made a public statement 3 years ago about Prior and how he felt that he would have shoulder problems the more he pitched. Marshall said that the problems with Prior is his long snapping motion and how he holds the ball under overhand with the ball in his Palm. He also mentioned that he keeps his elbow too close to his body and that those things he does leads to shoulder issues. At first when they asked if he felt that Prior still has a future he said that Prior might be already done for. Later on he did say that both pitchers are young and with proper guidance they can make a comeback. He was very critical of whoever was in charge of Prior's mechanics and was hinting that these guys are not looking at the right things with Prior. He mentioned that they should take a video of Prior's motion and show the video in slow motion to him to show him what he is doing wrong to rectify the problem. He said what Prior had to do is not have too long of a long or or whip(something like that I don't remember exactly what was said) and that when pitching and finishes he should have his palm facing backwards(or something like that). They briefly talked about Wood, and that his problem is different from Prior's but that he too is not properly throwing. He mentioned something about his stride and crossing with his arm. Towards the end of the call both him and the interviewer both agreed that long tossing with pitchers is completely wasteful. I wish I had a tape so that I can record the conversion for you guys. IMO if Prior doesn't hit at least in the low 90's consistently he's done for. Right now he's throwing as fast as Maddux.

[daske17]

No offense to Mike Marshall, but these are the same "pitching experts" that said Prior had perfect mechanics coming into the MLB.

 

Opinions are like. . . well, you know what. Everybody has one.

[otis89]

 

IMO if Prior doesn't hit at least in the low 90's consistently he's done for. Right now he's throwing as fast as Maddux.

 

Yep, and that Maddux guy really sucked, didn't he?

[YearofDaCubs]

 

IMO if Prior doesn't hit at least in the low 90's consistently he's done for. Right now he's throwing as fast as Maddux.

 

Yep, and that Maddux guy really sucked, didn't he?

Prior is considered a power pitcher while Maddux is not. They are totally different pitchers. If you think Prior will be successful consistently throwing in the 80's have at it.

[DiamondMind]

 

IMO if Prior doesn't hit at least in the low 90's consistently he's done for. Right now he's throwing as fast as Maddux.

 

Yep, and that Maddux guy really sucked, didn't he?

 

No offense, but what a dumb comment. Apples to oranges, man.

[otis89]

 

IMO if Prior doesn't hit at least in the low 90's consistently he's done for. Right now he's throwing as fast as Maddux.

 

Yep, and that Maddux guy really sucked, didn't he?

 

No offense, but what a dumb comment. Apples to oranges, man.

 

Sorry. I guess I should take that as a sign that it's bedtime. :oops:

[ltb]

No offense to Mike Marshall, but these are the same "pitching experts" that said Prior had perfect mechanics coming into the MLB.

 

Opinions are like. . . well, you know what. Everybody has one.

 

he did have perfect mechanics.

he altered them. that's what led to the achilles injury, and it's all been downhill from there.

[SouthSideRyan]

No offense to Mike Marshall, but these are the same "pitching experts" that said Prior had perfect mechanics coming into the MLB.

 

Opinions are like. . . well, you know what. Everybody has one.

 

he did have perfect mechanics.

he altered them. that's what led to the achilles injury, and it's all been downhill from there.

 

It's late, but wasn't it the other way around?

[Bote McBoteface]

No offense to Mike Marshall, but these are the same "pitching experts" that said Prior had perfect mechanics coming into the MLB.

 

Opinions are like. . . well, you know what. Everybody has one.

 

he did have perfect mechanics.

he altered them. that's what led to the achilles injury, and it's all been downhill from there.

 

It's late, but wasn't it the other way around?

 

Yes it was.

[Magnetic Curses]

mike marshall is a quack. his own mechanics worked for him, but to my knowledge, no other major league pitcher has ever subscribed to his mechanical philosophies.

 

from what i understand, he turns high school pitchers into great students, though.

[bhogg]

Mike Marshall was the slowest player I've ever watched. . .. even slower than Keith Moreland AND Jody Davis!

 

http://www.baseball-reference.com/bpv/images/e/e1/Marshallmikea.jpg

 

 

Who knew he was a pitching expert? ;)

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

mike marshall is a quack. his own mechanics worked for him, but to my knowledge, no other major league pitcher has ever subscribed to his mechanical philosophies.

 

from what i understand, he turns high school pitchers into great students, though.

 

That's what I've heard as well. I've never heard any respected major league pitching coach support Marshall's conclusions.

[ltb]

No offense to Mike Marshall, but these are the same "pitching experts" that said Prior had perfect mechanics coming into the MLB.

 

Opinions are like. . . well, you know what. Everybody has one.

 

he did have perfect mechanics.

he altered them. that's what led to the achilles injury, and it's all been downhill from there.

 

It's late, but wasn't it the other way around?

 

heh, i really wish i could explain this. i worded it exactly as i meant it. i guess i shouldn't expect anyone to believe it, but the way i worded it is correct - it's just that the reason was never released to the media/public (it has to do with a minor injury that led to altered mechanics that led to the achilles injury). source is a highly regarded injury expert trusted by many on this board..but i can't say more than that. i know it makes me seem kind of like a prick, sorry :/

[NCCubFan]

No offense to Mike Marshall, but these are the same "pitching experts" that said Prior had perfect mechanics coming into the MLB.

 

Opinions are like. . . well, you know what. Everybody has one.

 

he did have perfect mechanics.

he altered them. that's what led to the achilles injury, and it's all been downhill from there.

 

It's late, but wasn't it the other way around?

 

heh, i really wish i could explain this. i worded it exactly as i meant it. i guess i shouldn't expect anyone to believe it, but the way i worded it is correct - it's just that the reason was never released to the media/public (it has to do with a minor injury that led to altered mechanics that led to the achilles injury). source is a highly regarded injury expert trusted by many on this board..but i can't say more than that. i know it makes me seem kind of like a prick, sorry :/

In other words, it didn't come from the Cubs' training staff. :D

[ltb]

In other words, it didn't come from the Cubs' training staff. :D

 

correct, lol.

[SouthSideRyan]

No offense to Mike Marshall, but these are the same "pitching experts" that said Prior had perfect mechanics coming into the MLB.

 

Opinions are like. . . well, you know what. Everybody has one.

 

he did have perfect mechanics.

he altered them. that's what led to the achilles injury, and it's all been downhill from there.

 

It's late, but wasn't it the other way around?

 

heh, i really wish i could explain this. i worded it exactly as i meant it. i guess i shouldn't expect anyone to believe it, but the way i worded it is correct - it's just that the reason was never released to the media/public (it has to do with a minor injury that led to altered mechanics that led to the achilles injury). source is a highly regarded injury expert trusted by many on this board..but i can't say more than that. i know it makes me seem kind of like a prick, sorry :/

In other words, it didn't come from the Cubs' training staff. :D

 

Or Will Carroll. I guess I just don't see how changing mechanics is going to F up your achilles.