The Bears Offseason Thread

[Guest]

Rex Grossman's got some improving to do. I hadn't seen such a low-performance passer in the Super Bowl since Trent Dilfer with the Ravens seven years ago. Quite frankly, I'm surprised the Bears didn't get some insurance at the position by drafting a youngster. I have Grossman 27th, fairly ridiculous for a first-round pick who started in the Super Bowl.

 

This is from Peter King. The SI-Rex Grossman Hatred Parade Continues. I dont care that Grossman is a bear. I want him to piss all over the league, next year. I want him to go bananas. I never personally rooted for another player in any sport like I do for him now.

 

We got to the Super Bowl by proving all these so-called 'experts' wrong. I couldn't care less if they hate on Grossman. I hope Rex sticks to the gameplan, uses his running game, limits the turnovers, and puts up more QB ratings that are in line with a controlled QB in charge of a primarily power-running attack.

 

To hell with these 100+ QB rating obsessive bozos. Win the football games, let them whine like little girls. Most of all, be in touch with the team's identity. For the Bears, that's power running, an occasional well-placed pass, and rock-solid D.

 

Actually, for those QB rating obsessive bozos, maybe they'll notice Rex had 7 games with a 100+ QB rating and an 8th that was 98.6

[Soul]

No, I think they'll throw a ton of interceptions and lose alot of games if they focus primarily on passing, instead of primarily on power running. Why? The OLine's not real good at pass protection.

 

Who said focus primarily on passing? The OLine isn't particularly good at power running. They haven't been pounding teams with the ball, and probably won't be able to this year. They will need to both run and pass. They will need to throw on first down occasionally and send it deep often. They will need to probably throw for 20+ TDs and run for 15+. The Bears were bottom half of the league in yards per rush last year, if they try and go further away from a passing game and concentrate more on rushing that will just go down.

 

I think we got into some trouble last year trying to force the passing game. In those games (Arizona comes to mind), it was too many INTs that didn't need to happen, and wouldn't have happened with better gameplanning. Yes, I believe that would have involved more running.

 

When you look at the draft, the Bears didn't pick up a single WR. Instead they drafted a pass catching TE, and a good pass catching back out of the backfield. That doesn't scream pass-happy to me. It suggests the Bears will work in a more medium-range passing game, and could equal more of what Rex really excels at: the medium-range seam route.

 

When you said we need to throw lots of TDs, but then set the bar at 20, that's not all that many--the top passing offenses had around 30 last year.

[Soul]

Rex Grossman's got some improving to do. I hadn't seen such a low-performance passer in the Super Bowl since Trent Dilfer with the Ravens seven years ago. Quite frankly, I'm surprised the Bears didn't get some insurance at the position by drafting a youngster. I have Grossman 27th, fairly ridiculous for a first-round pick who started in the Super Bowl.

 

This is from Peter King. The SI-Rex Grossman Hatred Parade Continues. I dont care that Grossman is a bear. I want him to piss all over the league, next year. I want him to go bananas. I never personally rooted for another player in any sport like I do for him now.

 

We got to the Super Bowl by proving all these so-called 'experts' wrong. I couldn't care less if they hate on Grossman. I hope Rex sticks to the gameplan, uses his running game, limits the turnovers, and puts up more QB ratings that are in line with a controlled QB in charge of a primarily power-running attack.

 

To hell with these 100+ QB rating obsessive bozos. Win the football games, let them whine like little girls. Most of all, be in touch with the team's identity. For the Bears, that's power running, an occasional well-placed pass, and rock-solid D.

 

Actually, for those QB rating obsessive bozos, maybe they'll notice Rex had 7 games with a 100+ QB rating and an 8th that was 98.6

 

Trouble is, they don't notice. They only see the poor games. A QB has to do it every week or else they say he's junk

[Guest]

Oh, I know. As someone pointed out, most of his bad games were on national TV which has been Rex's undoing in the media.

[Handlebar McSkullet]

Well JA and Lovie care as little about the media's opinion of their players as I care about a brewers fan's opinion about baseball. so that is a huge plus.

[Soul]

Well JA and Lovie care as little about the media's opinion of their players as I care about a brewers fan's opinion about baseball. so that is a huge plus.

 

I agree. Listening to media assessments of what should be done is the quickest ticket to last place I can think of.

[soapy]

You aren't weighting things properly. Intangibles are the most important thing a QB can bring. They bring a team together.

 

The thing is, if you are going to use that stat, shouldn't Rex rate high there? Everybody talks about what a winner he is, how much confidence they have in him and all this other stuff. You would think going to the super bowl despite being such a terrible QB would add something to his intangible quotient.

 

This is one of the things that got to me (sorry, i'm a little late getting to this article). King went on about how wins were so important in his ranking and then put one of the winningest QB's (Grossman) at/near the bottom.

[jersey cubs fan]

No, I think they'll throw a ton of interceptions and lose alot of games if they focus primarily on passing, instead of primarily on power running. Why? The OLine's not real good at pass protection.

 

Who said focus primarily on passing? The OLine isn't particularly good at power running. They haven't been pounding teams with the ball, and probably won't be able to this year. They will need to both run and pass. They will need to throw on first down occasionally and send it deep often. They will need to probably throw for 20+ TDs and run for 15+. The Bears were bottom half of the league in yards per rush last year, if they try and go further away from a passing game and concentrate more on rushing that will just go down.

 

I think we got into some trouble last year trying to force the passing game. In those games (Arizona comes to mind), it was too many INTs that didn't need to happen, and wouldn't have happened with better gameplanning. Yes, I believe that would have involved more running.

 

When you look at the draft, the Bears didn't pick up a single WR. Instead they drafted a pass catching TE, and a good pass catching back out of the backfield. That doesn't scream pass-happy to me. It suggests the Bears will work in a more medium-range passing game, and could equal more of what Rex really excels at: the medium-range seam route.

 

When you said we need to throw lots of TDs, but then set the bar at 20, that's not all that many--the top passing offenses had around 30 last year.

 

You are the one who is insisting on calling it pass happy.

 

The Bears threw a lot last year and they need to throw a lot this year in order to win. Calling for them to focus more on power running is just cliche nonsense that isn't going to lead to more wins.

[Chocolate Milk]

Oh, I know. As someone pointed out, most of his bad games were on national TV which has been Rex's undoing in the media.

 

I have thought this for a while. I don't remember who brought it up here, though.

[cubweiser03]

For the Bears to get to the next level of offense efficiency Grossman needs to complete more passes. If he can get to 59%+ that would be a nice improvement. Hopefully Olsen and Wolfe will help out in the short and intermediate passing game, Olsen probably more than Wolfe, as well as Rex's continual QB improvement. They need to be more consistant in the short passing game. If Rex can get better at checking down and not throwing the ball way (sometimes that wasnt bad), not taking bad sacks, or 'gunslinging it' the offense i think can really take off.

[Soul]

No, I think they'll throw a ton of interceptions and lose alot of games if they focus primarily on passing, instead of primarily on power running. Why? The OLine's not real good at pass protection.

 

Who said focus primarily on passing? The OLine isn't particularly good at power running. They haven't been pounding teams with the ball, and probably won't be able to this year. They will need to both run and pass. They will need to throw on first down occasionally and send it deep often. They will need to probably throw for 20+ TDs and run for 15+. The Bears were bottom half of the league in yards per rush last year, if they try and go further away from a passing game and concentrate more on rushing that will just go down.

 

I think we got into some trouble last year trying to force the passing game. In those games (Arizona comes to mind), it was too many INTs that didn't need to happen, and wouldn't have happened with better gameplanning. Yes, I believe that would have involved more running.

 

When you look at the draft, the Bears didn't pick up a single WR. Instead they drafted a pass catching TE, and a good pass catching back out of the backfield. That doesn't scream pass-happy to me. It suggests the Bears will work in a more medium-range passing game, and could equal more of what Rex really excels at: the medium-range seam route.

 

When you said we need to throw lots of TDs, but then set the bar at 20, that's not all that many--the top passing offenses had around 30 last year.

 

You are the one who is insisting on calling it pass happy.

 

The Bears threw a lot last year and they need to throw a lot this year in order to win. Calling for them to focus more on power running is just cliche nonsense that isn't going to lead to more wins.

 

I notice everything you disagree with becomes 'nonsense'

 

It's not, and it certainly will lead to a better chance to win than just letting Grossman throw 5 INTs when the pass game isn't working. We're not good enough protecting the QB, and with our WRs to just drop back 7 steps all the time when the other team knows it's coming.

 

If you can't accept that about this team, then I don't know what else to say other than you are wrong. But, it's all about opinions so feel free to think what you wish.

[jersey cubs fan]

I notice everything you disagree with becomes 'nonsense'

 

It's not, and it certainly will lead to a better chance to win than just letting Grossman throw 5 INTs when the pass game isn't working. We're not good enough protecting the QB, and with our WRs to just drop back 7 steps all the time when the other team knows it's coming.

 

If you can't accept that about this team, then I don't know what else to say other than you are wrong. But, it's all about opinions so feel free to think what you wish.

 

You're gross over generalization of the passing game makes no sense to me. I don't think I ever asked for them to let him throw 5 INTs or take 7 step drops every pass.

 

The Bears have to pass the ball. The cliche of "concentrating on a power running game" is nothing more than a cliche. The Bears don't just need Grossman to hand off and throw the occasional pass, they need him to drop back and throw deep. They need him to throw underneath. They need a well rounded offense that includes lots of runs and lots of passed.

[David]

I notice everything you disagree with becomes 'nonsense'

 

It's not, and it certainly will lead to a better chance to win than just letting Grossman throw 5 INTs when the pass game isn't working. We're not good enough protecting the QB, and with our WRs to just drop back 7 steps all the time when the other team knows it's coming.

 

If you can't accept that about this team, then I don't know what else to say other than you are wrong. But, it's all about opinions so feel free to think what you wish.

 

You're gross over generalization of the passing game makes no sense to me. I don't think I ever asked for them to let him throw 5 INTs or take 7 step drops every pass.

 

The Bears have to pass the ball. The cliche of "concentrating on a power running game" is nothing more than a cliche. The Bears don't just need Grossman to hand off and throw the occasional pass, they need him to drop back and throw deep. They need him to throw underneath. They need a well rounded offense that includes lots of runs and lots of passed.

 

I couldn't agree more. I'm so tired of the cliche crap in sports, and I think you see more of it with 'Chicago Bears football' than anywhere else.

[BigbadB]

Well rounded is exactly what the team needs. They also need to utilize the tools they have properly. Moose provides value in a short passing game. He's an excellent possession receiver. The more times you hit him short, the likelier he can get open deep occasionally. I don't think the Bears utilized Moose nearly enough. More crossing patterns for 10-12 yards is exactly what the doctor ordered with Moose.

[Jon]

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Urlacher in a Briggs jersey

 

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[Ding Dong Johnson]

no pics of McNabb yet?

[Butterscup1679666578]

mike brown! <3

[Soriano12]

Did Lovie put on a little weight?

[da bears]

I was a little perplexed when I saw number 55 running around, until I realized I was a moron and that the picture of Urlacher in 55 was just a few pictures above.

[Banedon]

mike brown! <3

 

Can you imagine if he could stay healthy for 16 games + playoffs? *drool*

[Banedon]

Oh and slightly unrelated to the Bears, but Mike Greenberg, Mike Golic, and Mike Ditka will be in the booth for the second game of the start of the season MNF doubleheader on ESPN. I could do without Ditka to be honest, but Greenie and Golic should be pretty good.

[seanimal]

well at least espn doesn't give in to gimmick

[jersey cubs fan]

Oh and slightly unrelated to the Bears, but Mike Greenberg, Mike Golic, and Mike Ditka will be in the booth for the second game of the start of the season MNF doubleheader on ESPN. I could do without Ditka to be honest, but Greenie and Golic should be pretty good.

 

I think that booth will be awful. Greenberg can't do play by play and Golic's analysis is extremely "duh" type stuff.

[cubweiser03]

mike brown! <3

 

Can you imagine if he could stay healthy for 16 games + playoffs? *drool*

 

I know. Mike Brown at FS is even better. In this position he has more of the freedom to survey the field and make plays by reading pass routes and the direction of the plays, this is one of his strenghts that he couldnt fully utilize by playing the SS position. Mike Brown is such a good football player when he is on the field. I too really hope he can be healthy in 08.

[jersey cubs fan]

tank johnson DUI.

 

byebye tank