Since Our Collective Heart Attack Is Over...

[nilodnayr]

Assuming the BoSox get DMat, I think the Yanks will respond with overpaying for Schmidt. There are no reports that we bid for Iwamura, and one of the plethora of teams that need 3B or 2B will have to overbid for him. I'm weary of Igawa after the Wright interview and if you have to bid $10M for him, its not worth it. That being said, heres how I play out the rest of the offseason.

 

Sign JD Drew to a 4/50 deal

Sign Z to an Oswalt extension (adds 7M to 07 payroll)

Trade Jacque Jones, Cesar Izturis, and AAAA arm (if necessary) to Washington for Kearns, Church, and Vidro

Sign Vicente Padilla to a 3/27

Trade EPatt? for Aaron Heilman

Sign Tony Graffanino

Sign Daryle Ward/Richard Hidalgo, Edwardo Perez, Jose Cruz Jr.

 

C - Michael Barrett - $4MM

C - Geovany Soto - $0.4MM

1B - Derrek Lee - $13MM

2B - Jose Vidro - $7.5MM

SS - Ryan Theriot - $0.4MM

3B - Aramis Ramirez - $14MM

IF - Tony Graffanino - $1.5MM

IF - Ronny Cedeno - $0.4MM

LF - Matt Murton - $0.4MM

CF - JD Drew - $13MM

RF - Austin Kearns - $4MM

OF - Ryan Church - $0.4MM

OF - Daryl Ward - $1M

 

Position Players - $60MM

 

SP - Carlos Zambrano - $13MM

SP - Vicente Padilla - $ 9MM

SP - Rich Hill - $0.4MM

SP - Aarom Heilman - $.6MM

SP - Wade Miller - $1.5MM / Mark Prior - $4MM

 

Rotation - $28.5MM

 

RP - Ryan Dempster - $5MM

RP - Bob Howry - $4MM

RP - Kerry Wood - $1.75MM

RP - Scott Eyre - $3.5MM

RP - Will Ohman - $1MM

RP - Mike Wuertz - $0.4MM

RP - David Aardsma - $0.4MM

 

Bullpen - $16MM

 

Total - $104.5MM leaves us room for the incentives and any midseason acquisitions.

[b_wiggy_66]

Trade Jacque Jones, Cesar Izturis, and AAAA arm (if necessary) to Washington for Kearns, Church, and Vidro

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Thats the same trade I would like to see made, and with Hendry's past interest in Kearns I could see this one happening. Him and Bowden both like to make trades. I know we would have to throw in a little of our young pitching though.

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

Drew, Bonds, and Schmidt. (Assuming Bonds is under 8-10 million).

 

If not, Drew, Schmidt, and Alou (to platoon with Jacque.)

[Transmogrified Tiger]

Drew, Durham, Schmidt, and maybe another starter

 

Quoting myself since too many posts past to edit...

 

Since Wood is back and likely in the pen, what about a Jones+Dempster for Hudson deal? Atlanta gets rid of any '09 obligation, as well as at least 10 million total salary, plus a serviceable OF and a bullpen project like they've taken on before(Sosa, Reitsma, etc). A Zambrano, Schmidt, Hudson, Hill, Prior/Miller/youngster rotation would be fun.

 

I know you've been advocating Hudson because his cumulative peripherals in 06 werent a ton different than 05, but I thought when we dug deeper, it looked like 05 was more of a lucky year than 06 being unlucky?

 

I still think Hudson was a little unlucky last year, but that's why I have him as the secondary SP acquisition(with Schmidt), instead of counting on him to be the ace SP acquisition.

[nilodnayr]

Drew, Durham, Schmidt, and maybe another starter

 

Quoting myself since too many posts past to edit...

 

Since Wood is back and likely in the pen, what about a Jones+Dempster for Hudson deal? Atlanta gets rid of any '09 obligation, as well as at least 10 million total salary, plus a serviceable OF and a bullpen project like they've taken on before(Sosa, Reitsma, etc). A Zambrano, Schmidt, Hudson, Hill, Prior/Miller/youngster rotation would be fun.

 

I know you've been advocating Hudson because his cumulative peripherals in 06 werent a ton different than 05, but I thought when we dug deeper, it looked like 05 was more of a lucky year than 06 being unlucky?

 

I still think Hudson was a little unlucky last year, but that's why I have him as the secondary SP acquisition(with Schmidt), instead of counting on him to be the ace SP acquisition.

 

What were his BABIPs for the last three years? Hes had some interesting trends...K/9 have increased each of the last three years however so have BB/9, HR/9, and WHIP. Although his 04 and 05 ERAs were identically quite good at 3.5, his peripherals are cumulatively much worse in 05 than in 04. Isnt there a tool where you can plug in the peripherals and it calcs out an expected ERA? It would be interesting to do that for Mulder's last three years.

 

Take a look at Padilla's 06 peripherals vs. Hudson's 05. Nearly identical except that Padilla struck out over 1.5 MORE batters/9, yet Hudson had a 3.5 ERA and Padilla had a 4.5 ERA.

[soapy]

I'm becomming intrigued with the whole Hudson for Jones + Dempster idea. My "wishlist" is pretty similar to what TT mentioned.

 

Sign Schmidt

Sign Drew

Jones + Dempster for Hudson

Sign Durham

 

If those moves are made, I could live with Izturis at SS if I had to.

 

Durham

Murton

Drew

Lee

Ramirez

Barrett

Jones

Izturis

 

Zambrano

Schmidt

Hill

Hudson

Prior/Miller/young SP

 

I really would like to see Hendry shop some of the bullpen guys (Dempster, Eyre, Howry) to free up some cash if they really expect Wood to work out of the pen.

[CubinNY]

Ok, I'm terrible at this sort of thing but here it goes.

 

Sign JD Drew and put in in CF

Try and get Julio Lugo and put him at second

I'd love to get rid of Cesar and Jones but I don't see Hendry doing any of that.

 

I'd try and get Zito and go bargin shopping for another starter.

 

Maybe dangle Murton, Marsahall, Veal, and Gallagher and see what I could pick up.

 

But definately don't resign Pierre, one mistake is enough.

[TruffleShuffle]

Trade EPatt? for Aaron Heilman

 

no

[Danny82]

Am I missing something here or isn't Rowand a FA now? Is he really that bad of an option if they can't get Drew to play center? You know, provided they made a big splash or two elsewhere.

[goonys evil twin]

Am I missing something here or isn't Rowand a FA now? Is he really that bad of an option if they can't get Drew to play center?

Aaron Rowand is a bad option. He's also not a free agent, rather, he's arbitration eligible.

[killthegoat06]

Why has noone mentioned Carlos Lee? If we trade Jacque and end up with a cheaper leadoff man (Roberts) at CF, why couldn't we use his power.?

[goonys evil twin]

Why has noone mentioned Carlos Lee? If we trade Jacque and end up with a cheaper leadoff man (Roberts) at CF, why couldn't we use his power.?

 

He's been mentioned a lot. He's just not that good. Murton was better during the 2nd half. Lee has been consistently good, but nowhere near great, and doesn't deserve the type of contract they are talking about him getting. He's 30 now, coming off a career year, with an OPS+ of 125. Typically he's closer to the 110-115 level, which is barely above what Jones did this year. So, you're talking about a guy who is not as productive as Ramirez, but is 2 years older and could get a contract that is significantly bigger.

 

You'd be foolish to replace Murton with him, unless Matt is needed to get a stud like Cabrera. And the defensive questions (who plays right) just add to the problem. CLee should be an AL player.

[C.C.]

Why has noone mentioned Carlos Lee? If we trade Jacque and end up with a cheaper leadoff man (Roberts) at CF, why couldn't we use his power.?

 

He's been mentioned a lot. He's just not that good. Murton was better during the 2nd half. Lee has been consistently good, but nowhere near great, and doesn't deserve the type of contract they are talking about him getting. He's 30 now, coming off a career year, with an OPS+ of 125. Typically he's closer to the 110-115 level, which is barely above what Jones did this year. So, you're talking about a guy who is not as productive as Ramirez, but is 2 years older and could get a contract that is significantly bigger.

 

You'd be foolish to replace Murton with him, unless Matt is needed to get a stud like Cabrera. And the defensive questions (who plays right) just add to the problem. CLee should be an AL player.

 

Reports are he's gaining weight and eating himself into a DH role.

[UBlink]

Reports are he's gaining weight and eating himself into a DH role.

 

Sounds like I've got DH in my future then - do I have to hit or just gain weight?

[NorthsideAvenger]

Reports are he's gaining weight and eating himself into a DH role.

 

Sounds like I've got DH in my future then - do I have to hit or just gain weight?

 

You could HIT the WEIGHTS. 8)