A Mgr you compare to Dusty

[Southpaw191679666239]

I know the subject is slightly convaluted, but it would have been too long of a subject to explain fully.

 

What I am getting at is this... is there a possible managerial candidate that if hired, you would feel it is either staying status quo, or even (if possible) a downgrade from Dusty Baker?

 

There is all this renewed talk of Lou Piniella, and I for one would not want that hire.

[Soriano12]

I know the subject is slightly convaluted, but it would have been too long of a subject to explain fully.

 

What I am getting at is this... is there a possible managerial candidate that if hired, you would feel it is either staying status quo, or even (if possible) a downgrade from Dusty Baker?

 

There is all this renewed talk of Lou Piniella, and I for one would not want that hire.

 

Jimy Williams

[CubinNY]

I know the subject is slightly convaluted, but it would have been too long of a subject to explain fully.

 

What I am getting at is this... is there a possible managerial candidate that if hired, you would feel it is either staying status quo, or even (if possible) a downgrade from Dusty Baker?

 

There is all this renewed talk of Lou Piniella, and I for one would not want that hire.

 

There probably are any number of managers that would manage exactly the way Baker has. After all Baker played The Game and is a baseball lifer, that seems to be a prerequisit for the position.

 

But truely, I don't think a manager matters that much, maybe a handfull of wins over the course of the season. If a team is close it matter much more. I think Girardi managed the Marlins out of the playoffs, for example. Baker is/was bad, but I don't think he could have got much more out that assembled team then he got.

 

It was bad at the end of 05 and was worse at the start of Spring Training.

 

From what I've ssen of Girardi, I don't want him managing the Cubs next year. Nevertheless, until the front office decides that their philosophy de jour is not the right one it could be a while until the Cubs are in contention.

 

As always I hope for the best. Sometimes things just break right.

[Tracer Bullet]

I know the subject is slightly convaluted, but it would have been too long of a subject to explain fully.

 

What I am getting at is this... is there a possible managerial candidate that if hired, you would feel it is either staying status quo, or even (if possible) a downgrade from Dusty Baker?

 

There is all this renewed talk of Lou Piniella, and I for one would not want that hire.

 

Watching Jim Leyland bat Neifi in the top 2 spots in the order several times this year (among other things) makes me think he'd be just as bad as Dusty, even though he's probably going to win the MOY. Right place, right time, if you ask me.

[Tracer Bullet]

I know the subject is slightly convaluted, but it would have been too long of a subject to explain fully.

 

What I am getting at is this... is there a possible managerial candidate that if hired, you would feel it is either staying status quo, or even (if possible) a downgrade from Dusty Baker?

 

There is all this renewed talk of Lou Piniella, and I for one would not want that hire.

 

There probably are any number of managers that would manage exactly the way Baker has. After all Baker played The Game and is a baseball lifer, that seems to be a prerequisit for the position.

 

But truely, I don't think a manager matters that much, maybe a handfull of wins over the course of the season. If a team is close it matter much more. I think Girardi managed the Marlins out of the playoffs, for example. Baker is/was bad, but I don't think he could have got much more out that assembled team then he got.

 

It was bad at the end of 05 and was worse at the start of Spring Training.

 

From what I've ssen of Girardi, I don't want him managing the Cubs next year. Nevertheless, until the front office decides that their philosophy de jour is not the right one it could be a while until the Cubs are in contention.

 

As always I hope for the best. Sometimes things just break right.

 

I agree that managers have less effect than they are given credit for (both postively/negatively). However, when you're a fan suffering through an already frustrating season, you hate to see a manager run a young pitcher out for 120+ pitches several times (after all hope for the playoffs has been lost). And it's just frustrating to watch him hit Neifi in the top spots in the order, and mishandle the bullpen etc. I guess I'm saying managers may not have a huge effect on a team, but Dusty has certainly had a huge effect on my enjoyment in watching the team. I'm just happy that my son is still too young to watch the Cubs and understand what's going on. I don't want him learning baseball by watching Dusty.

[CuseCubFan69]

I know the subject is slightly convaluted, but it would have been too long of a subject to explain fully.

 

What I am getting at is this... is there a possible managerial candidate that if hired, you would feel it is either staying status quo, or even (if possible) a downgrade from Dusty Baker?

 

There is all this renewed talk of Lou Piniella, and I for one would not want that hire.

 

Watching Jim Leyland bat Neifi in the top 2 spots in the order several times this year (among other things) makes me think he'd be just as bad as Dusty, even though he's probably going to win the MOY. Right place, right time, if you ask me.

 

To give Leyland credit he did bench Perez and he hasn't played much since. Baker would have let him hit out of his slump in the 2 spot.

[the splendid splinter]

Sam Mele, Ralph Houk or Larry Doby.

[Rob]

Frank Robinson is almost a Dusty-doppelganger... and he should be available after the season.

[TheDude]

I know the subject is slightly convaluted, but it would have been too long of a subject to explain fully.

 

What I am getting at is this... is there a possible managerial candidate that if hired, you would feel it is either staying status quo, or even (if possible) a downgrade from Dusty Baker?

 

There is all this renewed talk of Lou Piniella, and I for one would not want that hire.

 

Watching Jim Leyland bat Neifi in the top 2 spots in the order several times this year (among other things) makes me think he'd be just as bad as Dusty, even though he's probably going to win the MOY. Right place, right time, if you ask me.

 

To give Leyland credit he did bench Perez and he hasn't played much since. Baker would have let him hit out of his slump in the 2 spot.

 

Jim Leyland does nearly all of the things that standard Dusty bashers list every week, including the ultimate hair-pulling early inning sacrifice bunts. I watched a game three weeks ago where Leyland laid down 4 sacrifice bunts before the 7th inning.

[CuseCubFan69]

I know the subject is slightly convaluted, but it would have been too long of a subject to explain fully.

 

What I am getting at is this... is there a possible managerial candidate that if hired, you would feel it is either staying status quo, or even (if possible) a downgrade from Dusty Baker?

 

There is all this renewed talk of Lou Piniella, and I for one would not want that hire.

 

Watching Jim Leyland bat Neifi in the top 2 spots in the order several times this year (among other things) makes me think he'd be just as bad as Dusty, even though he's probably going to win the MOY. Right place, right time, if you ask me.

 

To give Leyland credit he did bench Perez and he hasn't played much since. Baker would have let him hit out of his slump in the 2 spot.

 

Jim Leyland does nearly all of the things that standard Dusty bashers list every week, including the ultimate hair-pulling early inning sacrifice bunts. I watched a game three weeks ago where Leyland laid down 4 sacrifice bunts before the 7th inning.

 

I would have had them put down 5 bunts!

 

IMO, Hendry will look at the Tigers and get a manager like Leyland, especially if the Tigers move forward in the playoffs. I think he'll get a kick butt guy that will "motivate" the players.

[Outshined_One]

Flippy Alou, who should be fired given the debacle the Giants have gone through.

[Transmogrified Tiger]

Just about every manager is going to do irritating things like unnecessary sacrifices, and favoring veteran players over rookies. Where Dusty is truly special is how he destroys pitchers.

[Mephistopheles]

a computer. it would be the exact opposite of dusty.

 

going into the locker room right before a game, a player must rate how well he feels 1-10, the computer then bases it off that and the players ability.

[erik316wttn]

I know the subject is slightly convaluted, but it would have been too long of a subject to explain fully.

 

What I am getting at is this... is there a possible managerial candidate that if hired, you would feel it is either staying status quo, or even (if possible) a downgrade from Dusty Baker?

 

There is all this renewed talk of Lou Piniella, and I for one would not want that hire.

 

There probably are any number of managers that would manage exactly the way Baker has. After all Baker played The Game and is a baseball lifer, that seems to be a prerequisit for the position.

 

But truely, I don't think a manager matters that much, maybe a handfull of wins over the course of the season. If a team is close it matter much more. I think Girardi managed the Marlins out of the playoffs, for example. Baker is/was bad, but I don't think he could have got much more out that assembled team then he got.

 

It was bad at the end of 05 and was worse at the start of Spring Training.

 

From what I've ssen of Girardi, I don't want him managing the Cubs next year. Nevertheless, until the front office decides that their philosophy de jour is not the right one it could be a while until the Cubs are in contention.

 

As always I hope for the best. Sometimes things just break right.

 

What's your issue with Girardi?

[hardcorecubfan]

Lou Piniella- Stubborn to the point of shooting himself in the foot.

[Sammy Sofa]

I know the subject is slightly convaluted, but it would have been too long of a subject to explain fully.

 

What I am getting at is this... is there a possible managerial candidate that if hired, you would feel it is either staying status quo, or even (if possible) a downgrade from Dusty Baker?

 

There is all this renewed talk of Lou Piniella, and I for one would not want that hire.

 

There probably are any number of managers that would manage exactly the way Baker has. After all Baker played The Game and is a baseball lifer, that seems to be a prerequisit for the position.

 

But truely, I don't think a manager matters that much, maybe a handfull of wins over the course of the season. If a team is close it matter much more. I think Girardi managed the Marlins out of the playoffs, for example. Baker is/was bad, but I don't think he could have got much more out that assembled team then he got.

 

It was bad at the end of 05 and was worse at the start of Spring Training.

 

From what I've ssen of Girardi, I don't want him managing the Cubs next year. Nevertheless, until the front office decides that their philosophy de jour is not the right one it could be a while until the Cubs are in contention.

 

As always I hope for the best. Sometimes things just break right.

 

What's your issue with Girardi?

 

He's only been at it a year but there are strong signs he'll be a young pitcher-abuser extraordinaire a la Dusty in no time.

[NewUserName]

Steve Stone mentioned Jim Fergosi today. I think this would be the kind of move that Hendry might make. Could believe that Fergosi could do for Cubs what Leyland did for Tigers. I dont think he would be an upgrade to Dusty.