Tyler Colvin

[CubinNY]

it is possible that his down then up then down cycle was due to it being the 1st year using a wooden bat. he needed to get adjusted to wood after using an aluminium bat, got used to using one, then got tired at the end of the year.

 

I don't think it's that, though. He put up pretty darn good power numbers and his LD% is fairly reasonable. What most people have been criticizing him for is his lack of patience, which tends to be something that works across aluminum and wood bats.

 

I wonder what his coaches told him they wanted to see out of him. I wouldn't at all be surprised if they told him some crap like they wanted him swinging the bat alot, being more aggressive at the plate than normal in order to quickly adjust from aluminum to wood. Either way, I'm not impressed with his showing, but, like I said, I'm waiting until after next season to declare him a good or bad pick.

 

I'd wait longer than next year before declaring him anything, but my early impression remains skeptical, and will until he improves significantly.

 

Oh, and you are probably dead on as far as what he's being instructed to do by the Cubs.

 

I will remain skeptical too, probably more than most as I think the pick was terrible. Nevertheless, I am awaiting where he will go to for the winter leagues. I hope he goes to Mexico where he will see a lot of junk ball pitchers.

[CaliforniaRaisin]

I doubt Tyler is going anywhere during the winter (outside of Mesa).

[CubinNY]

I doubt Tyler is going anywhere during the winter (outside of Mesa).

 

Is this b/c of the long season he just played or do teams do this for most 1st year players?

[CaliforniaRaisin]

I doubt Tyler is going anywhere during the winter (outside of Mesa).

 

Is this b/c of the long season he just played or do teams do this for most 1st year players?

 

Just the long season. At this point in his development, instructs should be as helpful for Colvin as going anywhere in Latin America anyways.

 

Some teams do send their higher-rated college draft picks somewhere (especially if they took too long to sign). For example, the Cubs are sending Steve Clevenger to Hawaii.

[Jehrico]

it is possible that his down then up then down cycle was due to it being the 1st year using a wooden bat. he needed to get adjusted to wood after using an aluminium bat, got used to using one, then got tired at the end of the year.

 

I don't think it's that, though. He put up pretty darn good power numbers and his LD% is fairly reasonable. What most people have been criticizing him for is his lack of patience, which tends to be something that works across aluminum and wood bats.

 

I wonder what his coaches told him they wanted to see out of him. I wouldn't at all be surprised if they told him some crap like they wanted him swinging the bat alot, being more aggressive at the plate than normal in order to quickly adjust from aluminum to wood. Either way, I'm not impressed with his showing, but, like I said, I'm waiting until after next season to declare him a good or bad pick.

 

I'd wait longer than next year before declaring him anything, but my early impression remains skeptical, and will until he improves significantly.

 

Oh, and you are probably dead on as far as what he's being instructed to do by the Cubs.

Maybe declaring was not a good way to put it...forming an opinion maybe?

[goonys evil twin]

Maybe declaring was not a good way to put it...forming an opinion maybe?

 

Well, in that case, I'm way ahead of you. I formed an opinion a while ago. Now I just hope that in a couple years I can declare my opinion wrong. :P

[Quakers]

Having seen Colivin play in the NWL championship, I think he will be a much better prospect than his current numbers indicate.

 

Just my opinion.

[CaliforniaRaisin]

Tim Wilken gushes over Colvin in a Scout.com story.

 

(Sorry for the bump but I didn't want to start another Tyler Colvin thread.)

 

Colvin was considered by many of the so-called experts as the first “surprise” pick of the draft. Now, five months after picking Colvin with the 13th overall selection in the draft, Wilken recently re-affirmed his decision to scoop up the left-handed hitting outfielder.

 

“I’m very happy about it,” Wilken says with a faint chuckle, as if to tell the armchair GM’s who questioned his first choice: See, told you so.

 

Adding to Wilken’s excitement was Colvin’s positive impression left on BA.

 

“As you know from reading through some of the articles and going through the blogs, people are completely confused about a guy being ranked about 2,000th in the draft and then all of a sudden, this kind of comes out of left field for a lot of people,” Wilken admitted.

 

Wilken is unquestionably proud of his first choice thus far and admits he has to catch himself when talking about Colvin because he tends to get “pretty excited.”

[don_kessinger_was_good]

I call Shenanigans on Wilken, I think he's just CYA with the praise to cover for his ill-advised pick. No matter how "excited" he wants to be, the fact remains the pick was a huge reach.

[NorthsideAvenger]

I call Shenanigans on Wilken, I think he's just CYA with the praise to cover for his ill-advised pick. No matter how "excited" he wants to be, the fact remains the pick was a huge reach.

 

And if Colvin becomes a very good, Mark Kotsay type player, who produces for a long time, are you still going to call it a "huge risk", even if the players (some of whom some Cubs fans wanted) never developed into a star?

 

The draft will always be a "Crapshoot" and it doesn't matter the rd. Albert Pujols lasted till the 13th rd. Oswalt and Piazza went further down in the draft, whereas we've seen players like Brien Taylor, Todd Van Poopell, Darren Dreifort become spectualr busts. So, "huge risk" or not, I like the pick, and I fully expect him to win over just about every body here, in the last few yrs.

[WrigleyField 22]

He'll probably be serviceable. I'd like better with a top half first rounder, but like others said, its a crapshoot.

 

Lets just wait a few years and see what results we get, as a whole, from Wilken's drafts. If his past is any indication we'll do better than we have been doing.

[muntjack]

I call Shenanigans on Wilken, I think he's just CYA with the praise to cover for his ill-advised pick. No matter how "excited" he wants to be, the fact remains the pick was a huge reach.

 

And if Colvin becomes a very good, Mark Kotsay type player, who produces for a long time, are you still going to call it a "huge risk", even if the players (some of whom some Cubs fans wanted) never developed into a star?

 

The draft will always be a "Crapshoot" and it doesn't matter the rd. Albert Pujols lasted till the 13th rd. Oswalt and Piazza went further down in the draft, whereas we've seen players like Brien Taylor, Todd Van Poopell, Darren Dreifort become spectualr busts. So, "huge risk" or not, I like the pick, and I fully expect him to win over just about every body here, in the last few yrs.

 

To be fair, Dreifort was wicked, he just got injured.

[goonys evil twin]

I call Shenanigans on Wilken, I think he's just CYA with the praise to cover for his ill-advised pick. No matter how "excited" he wants to be, the fact remains the pick was a huge reach.

 

And if Colvin becomes a very good, Mark Kotsay type player, who produces for a long time, are you still going to call it a "huge risk", even if the players (some of whom some Cubs fans wanted) never developed into a star?

 

The draft will always be a "Crapshoot" and it doesn't matter the rd. Albert Pujols lasted till the 13th rd. Oswalt and Piazza went further down in the draft, whereas we've seen players like Brien Taylor, Todd Van Poopell, Darren Dreifort become spectualr busts. So, "huge risk" or not, I like the pick, and I fully expect him to win over just about every body here, in the last few yrs.

 

How is Mark Kotsay very good? He's not. He's mediocre. He had a couple good years. He did more than most 1st round picks, but he was hardly special.

[the splendid splinter]

Compare Kotsay vs the 1st round he was selected in that yr!!! Then compare what Wilken did 90 thru 99 with the Blue Jays and his 1st round picks and where those picks came inside the 1st round, if memory serves me right, Wilken took alot of heat from people both inside baseball and outside with his selections of (too high) of Wells and Rios both outfielders and neither were ranked very highly I think!!!

[CaliforniaRaisin]

Your memory serves you correctly, splendid splinter.

[TruffleShuffle]

“I’m very happy about it,” Wilken says with a faint chuckle, as if to tell the armchair GM’s who questioned his first choice: See, told you so.

 

Yeah, how could you not be fired up over a guy who played major college ball for three years and then put up a tremendous .313 OBP in rookie ball?

[mg420]

“I’m very happy about it,” Wilken says with a faint chuckle, as if to tell the armchair GM’s who questioned his first choice: See, told you so.

 

Yeah, how could you not be fired up over a guy who played major college ball for three years and then put up a tremendous .313 OBP in rookie ball?

 

he started out very slowly, hit a groove in the middle and tired out at the end and he still had a .796 ops. give the guy some time to adapt to the pro's before condeming him to being a washout as he only had 265 ab's.

[TruffleShuffle]

“I’m very happy about it,” Wilken says with a faint chuckle, as if to tell the armchair GM’s who questioned his first choice: See, told you so.

 

Yeah, how could you not be fired up over a guy who played major college ball for three years and then put up a tremendous .313 OBP in rookie ball?

 

he started out very slowly, hit a groove in the middle and tired out at the end and he still had a .796 ops. give the guy some time to adapt to the pro's before condeming him to being a washout as he only had 265 ab's.

 

I'm not condemning him as a washout, but the tone of the article seemed to be that his 2006 debut proved everyone wrong. Uh, not exactly.

[CUBZ99]

“I’m very happy about it,” Wilken says with a faint chuckle, as if to tell the armchair GM’s who questioned his first choice: See, told you so.

 

Yeah, how could you not be fired up over a guy who played major college ball for three years and then put up a tremendous .313 OBP in rookie ball?

 

he started out very slowly, hit a groove in the middle and tired out at the end and he still had a .796 ops. give the guy some time to adapt to the pro's before condeming him to being a washout as he only had 265 ab's.

 

Is this the same guy who was considered the #1 NWL prospect?

[mg420]

“I’m very happy about it,” Wilken says with a faint chuckle, as if to tell the armchair GM’s who questioned his first choice: See, told you so.

 

Yeah, how could you not be fired up over a guy who played major college ball for three years and then put up a tremendous .313 OBP in rookie ball?

 

he started out very slowly, hit a groove in the middle and tired out at the end and he still had a .796 ops. give the guy some time to adapt to the pro's before condeming him to being a washout as he only had 265 ab's.

 

Is this the same guy who was considered the #1 NWL prospect?

 

from what i've read from them, i believe he is still very highly regarded by the scouts. if he has a breakout year in 2007 no one will remember what his 2006 obp was.