Where would Gallagher and Veal rank in the FSL top 20

[Mephistopheles]

Top 20 prospects for BA? Just thinking this myself today. I was trying to draw it up with some minimum PT of 40 innings.

 

 

So far Im something like this:

 

1. Garza

2. Bailey

3. Gallardo

4. Elbert

5. Veal

6. Slowey

7. Braun

8. Dewitt

9. Gallagher

10. Hernandez

 

With Ricky Romero right out there. I dunno about DeWitt. He's really struggled outside of Vero. Still he's got left handed Jeff Kent potential at second.

[Outshined_One]

I'm thinking Mark Rogers, despite his issues thus far, would receive consideration.

 

The position players, on the other hand, are rather cringe-worthy, overall.

[Mephistopheles]

Yeah Rogers is close. Anthony Swarzak is close too.

[CaliforniaRaisin]

Will Veal finish with enough innings? He'll probably be around 70 for the FSL...

[Mephistopheles]

I want to say it was 50 innings, or 10 GS. Something like that. Lemme dig it up.

 

Baseball America's League Top 20 lists are generated from consultations with scouts and league managers. To qualify for consideration, a player must have spent at least one-third of the season in a league. Position players must have one plate appearance for every league game. Pitchers must pitch 1/3 inning for every league game, and relievers have to have made at least 20 appearances in full-season leagues and 10 in short-season ones.

 

So that's at least 45 innings in the league and Veal passed that tonight. He also just passed a third of the season in the league with today's start. He and Gallagher should finish eligible for two leagues.

[CaliforniaRaisin]

Thanks.

 

I agree about Mark Rogers.

 

Slowey seems kinda low, but at best, I could only bump him up one spot on your list. That is some list of prospects.

 

I can't get over that 99/9 K/BB ratio.

[Mephistopheles]

Slowey's a righty whose fastball rarely top 90. He's got good secondary stuff, but what's his upside going to be? Rogers is definitely going to be somewhere in the top 20, but he's gotten hit hard. I guess he's the pitching version of Ryan Harvey to a certain extent.

[CaliforniaRaisin]

Slowey's a righty whose fastball rarely top 90. He's got good secondary stuff, but what's his upside going to be?

 

He's going to be a #3 starter. But this thread is about the best prospects in the FSL, so it's based a lot on their performance while there.

[Mephistopheles]

I was making a point with that question. It's hard to put a guy with a limited ceiling over a guy who has put up similar numbers and has a higher ceiling.

[SoonerCubFan]

I want to say it was 50 innings, or 10 GS. Something like that. Lemme dig it up.

 

Baseball America's League Top 20 lists are generated from consultations with scouts and league managers. To qualify for consideration, a player must have spent at least one-third of the season in a league. Position players must have one plate appearance for every league game. Pitchers must pitch 1/3 inning for every league game, and relievers have to have made at least 20 appearances in full-season leagues and 10 in short-season ones.

 

So that's at least 45 innings in the league and Veal passed that tonight. He also just passed a third of the season in the league with today's start. He and Gallagher should finish eligible for two leagues.

 

From a historical perspective, Juan Cruz was named the #2 BA Prospect in both the Midwest and Florida State Leagues in 2001, having thrown 96 innings at Lansing and just 44 at Daytona. I think Veal has the same potential rankings in him for 2006, as he has done better (119.2 IP, 2.10 ERA, 1.16 WHIP, 133/66 K/BB ratio) than Cruz did at the time (140 IP, 3.27 ERA, 1.31 WHIP, 160/78 K/BB ratio).

[craig]

Yeah, Veal should score pretty well in both leagues. I don't think he'll score as high as Cruz did, though. Cruz threw harder, with regular reports of hitting 97-98, and doing so late in the sesaon and late in games. Veal is fast, but I don't think that exceptional. Cruz's fastball movement was also exceptional (as we've since found out, since he could never control it.) I believe he was viewed as having at least 3 and possibly four pitches that were projected as possible plus pitches. I'm not sure if he threw both slider and curve, or whether one observer might call it a slider one day and somebody else call it a curve the next, plus BA was pretty gaga about the potential of his change. Veal obviously looks nice, but I don't think he's quite in the "Potential to be Next Pedro" class that Cruz had back then.

 

Plus, Cruz was 19 then, Veal is 21 and turns 22 before the big-league season is over. Well, obviously Cruz wasn't really 19 then, since his age was bogus; but when the scouts saw him as supposedly 19, it seemed that he had lots of time to improve his control, and that he was young enough so that his skinny frame might fill out.

 

In retrospect, we know that Cruz was several years older, that he never filled out or got any stronger, that he never mastered control of any pitch much less 3 or 4 of them, that he never became the next Pedro. But back then, he really looked like one of the most exciting prospects in baseball.

 

Veal is good and very promising, no doubt about that. And he will score well on the league rankings, no doubt about that either. But I don't think he's really close to being in the same class of perceived prospect that Cruz was perceived to be back then.