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By "nothing" I mean Hendry did nothing before the trade deadline July 31st.

 

It seems to me that most posters here at NSBB and the bloggosphere, GROTA and BCB et al.. all fear that Hendry will not make any type of trades.

 

I say. So what!

 

Other teams are in need right now the Cubs are not, for this season.

 

Other teams need the bench depth, hitters, runners and glove men for late game defense, which is what the Cubs have. Do they not? I mean that's what goes out to the field everyday. Bench players!!!

 

Other teams need mid relief. The Cubs are rich in that area and should get more then spring time value for them.

 

Other teams should be calling Jim Hendry not the other way around. Granted Jim need to inquire what the other teams needs are.

 

Believe it or not the current Cubs team does have valuable pieces for teams fighting for the playoffs this year.

 

These teams will overpay for them as they should. Farm system gouging happens all the time for the "win now attitiude".

 

Hendry will make some good deals for this team that'll workout. I have faith.

 

After the Soriano thing comes to a head then Nevin and Todd Walker will have an increase in value. Deperation will set in, thus the overpaying.

 

I like Jim Hendry's approach to things. He's playing it cool. Letting the other GM's think about what Hendry counter offered, pissed knowing that when they go back to Hendry in a panic that the deal was just increased because of increased value.

 

This is horse trading people. It's like bikkering with a rug merchant. The cool heads will prevail. I like Hendry in this game. He'll get some good deal done.

 

It just might be after July 31st. Fear not.

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He'll get some good deal done.

 

It just might be after July 31st. Fear not.

 

If it's after July 31st, it won't be a good deal, or at least not a meaningful one. If it's after the season, the other team won't be desperate to make a trade. If you are counting on Hendry's trading savvy and the others teams' desperation to create a good deal for the Cubs, it would have to be before the deadline.

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So, when do we hit .500?

 

If the Cubs win each series and sweep the 2 Pirate series then Sept 11th.

72-72

 

 

Gooney, that's not necessarily true and that depends on your defintion of a good trade is too. If you're thinking a AROD blockbuster then your right. If you're thinking seling off perceievd low end pieces for a greater value to rebild the farm system then July 31st is just a date.

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So, when do we hit .500?

 

If the Cubs win each series and sweep the 2 Pirate series then Sept 11th.

72-72

 

 

Gooney, that's not necessarily true and that depends on your defintion of a good trade is too. If you're thinking a AROD blockbuster then your right. If you're thinking seling off perceievd low end pieces for a greater value to rebild the farm system then July 31st is just a date.

 

I'll be darned. I had the 2nd marked on my calendar for some reason.

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So, when do we hit .500?

 

If the Cubs win each series and sweep the 2 Pirate series then Sept 11th.

72-72

 

 

Gooney, that's not necessarily true and that depends on your defintion of a good trade is too. If you're thinking a AROD blockbuster then your right. If you're thinking seling off perceievd low end pieces for a greater value to rebild the farm system then July 31st is just a date.

 

I'll be darned. I had the 2nd marked on my calendar for some reason.

 

 

LOL it's hard holding on to this season. It was the 9th and that feel off the map with the Nationals series. But stranger things have happened.

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Gooney, that's not necessarily true and that depends on your defintion of a good trade is too. If you're thinking a AROD blockbuster then your right. If you're thinking seling off perceievd low end pieces for a greater value to rebild the farm system then July 31st is just a date.

 

No, it's the date, after which the Cubs won't be making any meaningful trades. You don't trade perceived low end pieces after the deadline, you trade actual low end pieces for crap minor leaguers that don't do anything, just like he did last year.

 

If you want the Cubs to make a significant trade, you better hope it's before July 31.

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I fear the nothing.

 

Well get ready for it cause its coming. I lost faith in Hendry a while back. I dont know if things will ever improve while he and MacPhail are around.

Posted (edited)

Gooney, that's not necessarily true and that depends on your defintion of a good trade is too. If you're thinking a AROD blockbuster then your right. If you're thinking seling off perceievd low end pieces for a greater value to rebild the farm system then July 31st is just a date.

 

No, it's the date, after which the Cubs won't be making any meaningful trades. You don't trade perceived low end pieces after the deadline, you trade actual low end pieces for crap minor leaguers that don't do anything, just like he did last year.

 

If you want the Cubs to make a significant trade, you better hope it's before July 31.

 

The gist of the thread Gooney is this. Posters thoughout Blogland think Hendry is going to build a World Series Champion by trading Nevin, and Niefi among others, which is completely unrealistic. I believe what Hendry needs to do is to try and fill his most pressing need now. Even one trade, the rest of the season could achieve this. By doing so he can fill in the blanks through FA siging on the off season. He could trade for prospects and try to rebuild the farm system too.

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Back in my country, we had gourmet limestone rocks. But it was captured by..the nothing.

 

 

Ha ha

http://www.neverendingstory.com/pics1_files/Image047_thb.jpg

 

DOn't fear the nothing

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Gooney, that's not necessarily true and that depends on your defintion of a good trade is too. If you're thinking a AROD blockbuster then your right. If you're thinking seling off perceievd low end pieces for a greater value to rebild the farm system then July 31st is just a date.

 

No, it's the date, after which the Cubs won't be making any meaningful trades. You don't trade perceived low end pieces after the deadline, you trade actual low end pieces for crap minor leaguers that don't do anything, just like he did last year.

 

If you want the Cubs to make a significant trade, you better hope it's before July 31.

 

The jist of the thread Gooney is this. Posters thoughout Blogland think Hendry is going to build a World Series Champion by trading Nevin, and Niefi among others, which is completely unrealistic. I believe what Hendry needs to do is to try and fill his most pressing need now. Even one trade, the rest of the season could achieve this. By doing so he can fill in the blanks through FA siging on the off season. He could trade for prospects and try to rebuild the farm system too.

 

No he's not going to make a blockbuster trade. BUT, during the season is the best time to nab someones good prospect for your older vet because teams are trying to make the post season and load up on talent for the WS. So it can improve the team for next year in a way trading in the off-season can't. Think about guys we likely won't resign. Maddux, Nevin, ect. . If you can just get a couple decent prospects for them, you are actually getting something for nothing, because you won't have those players to trade in the off-season.

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Gooney, that's not necessarily true and that depends on your defintion of a good trade is too. If you're thinking a AROD blockbuster then your right. If you're thinking seling off perceievd low end pieces for a greater value to rebild the farm system then July 31st is just a date.

 

No, it's the date, after which the Cubs won't be making any meaningful trades. You don't trade perceived low end pieces after the deadline, you trade actual low end pieces for crap minor leaguers that don't do anything, just like he did last year.

 

If you want the Cubs to make a significant trade, you better hope it's before July 31.

 

The jist of the thread Gooney is this. Posters thoughout Blogland think Hendry is going to build a World Series Champion by trading Nevin, and Niefi among others, which is completely unrealistic. I believe what Hendry needs to do is to try and fill his most pressing need now. Even one trade, the rest of the season could achieve this. By doing so he can fill in the blanks through FA siging on the off season. He could trade for prospects and try to rebuild the farm system too.

 

No he's not going to make a blockbuster trade. BUT, during the season is the best time to nab someones good prospect for your older vet because teams are trying to make the post season and load up on talent for the WS. So it can improve the team for next year in a way trading in the off-season can't. Think about guys we likely won't resign. Maddux, Nevin, ect. . If you can just get a couple decent prospects for them, you are actually getting something for nothing, because you won't have those players to trade in the off-season.

 

 

Yeah! Someone get's it. Embrace the nothing!!!!!

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The jist of the thread Gooney is this. Posters thoughout Blogland think Hendry is going to build a World Series Champion by trading Nevin, and Niefi among others, which is completely unrealistic.

 

Your jist is wrong. I don't know anybody who thinks Hendry is going to build a WSC by trading Nevin and Neifi.

 

 

I believe what Hendry needs to do is to try and fill his most pressing need now. Even one trade, the rest of the season could achieve this. By doing so he can fill in the blanks through FA siging on the off season.

 

He needs to fill his most pressing need, but he doesn't need to trade before the deadline? One trade can fill that most pressing need, but it could be done at any time in the season? What is this most pressing need? How is he going to get it after the deadline? Since when has Hendry ever shown the ability to fill in the blanks with FA signings?

 

He could trade for prospects and try to rebuild the farm system too.

 

That's why people want him to trade before the deadline, because that is when teams desperate to contend this season trade prospects for veterans.

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Gooney, that's not necessarily true and that depends on your defintion of a good trade is too. If you're thinking a AROD blockbuster then your right. If you're thinking seling off perceievd low end pieces for a greater value to rebild the farm system then July 31st is just a date.

 

No, it's the date, after which the Cubs won't be making any meaningful trades. You don't trade perceived low end pieces after the deadline, you trade actual low end pieces for crap minor leaguers that don't do anything, just like he did last year.

 

If you want the Cubs to make a significant trade, you better hope it's before July 31.

 

The jist of the thread Gooney is this. Posters thoughout Blogland think Hendry is going to build a World Series Champion by trading Nevin, and Niefi among others, which is completely unrealistic. I believe what Hendry needs to do is to try and fill his most pressing need now. Even one trade, the rest of the season could achieve this. By doing so he can fill in the blanks through FA siging on the off season. He could trade for prospects and try to rebuild the farm system too.

 

No he's not going to make a blockbuster trade. BUT, during the season is the best time to nab someones good prospect for your older vet because teams are trying to make the post season and load up on talent for the WS. So it can improve the team for next year in a way trading in the off-season can't. Think about guys we likely won't resign. Maddux, Nevin, ect. . If you can just get a couple decent prospects for them, you are actually getting something for nothing, because you won't have those players to trade in the off-season.

 

 

Yeah! Someone get's it. Embrace the nothing!!!!!

 

Obviously you don't get it. If you want to trade for meaningful prospects you better do it before the deadline.

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The jist of the thread Gooney is this. Posters thoughout Blogland think Hendry is going to build a World Series Champion by trading Nevin, and Niefi among others, which is completely unrealistic.

 

Your jist is wrong. I don't know anybody who thinks Hendry is going to build a WSC by trading Nevin and Neifi.

 

 

I believe what Hendry needs to do is to try and fill his most pressing need now. Even one trade, the rest of the season could achieve this. By doing so he can fill in the blanks through FA siging on the off season.

 

He needs to fill his most pressing need, but he doesn't need to trade before the deadline. One trade can fill that most pressing need, but it could be done at any time in the season. What is this most pressing need? How is he going to get it after the deadline? Since when has Hendry ever shown the ability to fill in the blanks with FA signings?

 

He could trade for prospects and try to rebuild the farm system too.

 

That's why people want him to trade before the deadline, because that is when teams desperate to contend this season trade prospects for veterans.

 

So you don't vibe on my gist. Okay.

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Gooney, that's not necessarily true and that depends on your defintion of a good trade is too. If you're thinking a AROD blockbuster then your right. If you're thinking seling off perceievd low end pieces for a greater value to rebild the farm system then July 31st is just a date.

 

No, it's the date, after which the Cubs won't be making any meaningful trades. You don't trade perceived low end pieces after the deadline, you trade actual low end pieces for crap minor leaguers that don't do anything, just like he did last year.

 

If you want the Cubs to make a significant trade, you better hope it's before July 31.

 

The jist of the thread Gooney is this. Posters thoughout Blogland think Hendry is going to build a World Series Champion by trading Nevin, and Niefi among others, which is completely unrealistic. I believe what Hendry needs to do is to try and fill his most pressing need now. Even one trade, the rest of the season could achieve this. By doing so he can fill in the blanks through FA siging on the off season. He could trade for prospects and try to rebuild the farm system too.

 

No he's not going to make a blockbuster trade. BUT, during the season is the best time to nab someones good prospect for your older vet because teams are trying to make the post season and load up on talent for the WS. So it can improve the team for next year in a way trading in the off-season can't. Think about guys we likely won't resign. Maddux, Nevin, ect. . If you can just get a couple decent prospects for them, you are actually getting something for nothing, because you won't have those players to trade in the off-season.

 

 

Yeah! Someone get's it. Embrace the nothing!!!!!

 

Obviously you don't get it. If you want to trade for meaningful prospects you better do it before the deadline.

 

Gooney, take a step back and breath a minute. Yes a trade before the deadline would be a great thing. Hip hip hurry, but don't count on it and don't get bent over the fact if Hendry does nothing. I'm not hoping he does nothing. I'm just not going to cry in my beer because he did nothing. Good deal's have been worked out past the deadline. Which appearently you don't agree with. Fine.

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Gooney, that's not necessarily true and that depends on your defintion of a good trade is too. If you're thinking a AROD blockbuster then your right. If you're thinking seling off perceievd low end pieces for a greater value to rebild the farm system then July 31st is just a date.

 

No, it's the date, after which the Cubs won't be making any meaningful trades. You don't trade perceived low end pieces after the deadline, you trade actual low end pieces for crap minor leaguers that don't do anything, just like he did last year.

 

If you want the Cubs to make a significant trade, you better hope it's before July 31.

 

The jist of the thread Gooney is this. Posters thoughout Blogland think Hendry is going to build a World Series Champion by trading Nevin, and Niefi among others, which is completely unrealistic. I believe what Hendry needs to do is to try and fill his most pressing need now. Even one trade, the rest of the season could achieve this. By doing so he can fill in the blanks through FA siging on the off season. He could trade for prospects and try to rebuild the farm system too.

 

No he's not going to make a blockbuster trade. BUT, during the season is the best time to nab someones good prospect for your older vet because teams are trying to make the post season and load up on talent for the WS. So it can improve the team for next year in a way trading in the off-season can't. Think about guys we likely won't resign. Maddux, Nevin, ect. . If you can just get a couple decent prospects for them, you are actually getting something for nothing, because you won't have those players to trade in the off-season.

 

 

Yeah! Someone get's it. Embrace the nothing!!!!!

 

Obviously you don't get it. If you want to trade for meaningful prospects you better do it before the deadline.

 

Gooney, take a step back and bearth a minute. Yes a trade before the deadline would be a great thing. Hip hip hurry, but don't count on it and don't get bent over the fact if Hendry does nothing. I'm not hoping he does nothing. I'm just not going to cry in my beer because he did nothing. Good deal's have been worked out past the deadline. Which appearently you don't agree with. Fine.

 

Could you name some?

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Gooney, take a step back and bearth a minute. Yes a trade before the deadline would be a great thing. Hip hip hurry, but don't count on it and don't get bent over the fact if Hendry does nothing. I'm not hoping he does nothing. I'm just not going to cry in my beer because he did nothing. Good deal's have been worked out past the deadline. Which appearently you don't agree with. Fine.

 

 

Scott, again, are you trying to make my wife a widow? Do you want my head to explode?

 

There is ADDED MOTIVATION right now for other teams to make a run at it, and thus, they are more willing to give up a little more in terms of prospects in exchange for help NOW.

 

The Cubs NEED to take advantage of this and use the opportunity to leverage the trades.

 

Scott, it honestly just seems like you are defending whatever Cubs organization does regardless of logic. Then you top that off with steaming promises of .500-style turnarounds one after the other. The scary part for me is, I think you are not trolling, you are being genuine. Somebody call the looney-bin!

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