Baker chewing out Cedeno on Saturday?

[Sammy Sofa]

I was at the game at RFK and at one point Cedeno tried to throw to first while diving out of the way of a sliding runner. To be honest, I'm completely blanking as to the outcome of the play, but a few things stood out...for one, both my dad and I commented how Cedeno has done similar things a few times this year, namely going out of his way to avoid a runner coming into 2nd. Now I know that the guy shouldn't take a bad hit, but I feel there's definitely been some plays where Ronnie seems more concerned with not getting hit than making the play. Well, right after my dad and I bring this up, the side is finished and everyone heads to the dugout, and Ronnie ends up cornered by Baker right as he comes down the stairs, and Baker looked like he was yelling his head off, throwing his arms and even his body around while Z watched, standing at the railing but kinda bracing his arm against the top of the dugout, seemingly keeping everyone away. The rest of the players were keeping their distance except for Walker(!), who was in the middle of it, talking to Cedeno, too.

 

I know there were some other board members going to the games this weekend...did anyone else happen to see this? It was very bizarre to see Dusty showing that kind of emotion. And I really don't know what to make about Cedeno and close plays where he might collide with or be run into by the runner...it's definitely seemed to me that he's pulled a Dorn here or there and tried to avoid getting hit at all when he needed to make sure the bag was covered or he had the tag and/or throw set. I could easily be wrong, and wouldn't be surprised if I was.

[A New Era]

Too much text for me tonite sorry. Could you sum it up? :wink:

[Outshined_One]

Long story short: Dusty held Cedeno accountable for avoiding contact on a play at second base.

[dvdd127]

Sorry. but as if we didnt already know this... Dust Bag is stupid and needs to go.

[Balsa]

Sorry. but as if we didnt already know this... Dust Bag is stupid and needs to go.

An excellent response and very well related to the subject at hand.

[A New Era]

Sorry. but as if we didnt already know this... Dust Bag is stupid and needs to go.

An excellent response and very well related to the subject at hand.

 

I concur without even reading what it's all about.

[CaliforniaRaisin]

Shades of Dusy and Corey in 04.

 

Better yell at all the young'ns, Dusty!

[Tracer Bullet]

There was some explanation of the incident in one of Bruce's articles at the end of the week. Basically, Cedeno told Dusty he was late getting to the bag b/c they had changed the coverage on a steal. So his feet were tangled and that's why it looked like he was avoiding contact.

 

Dusty asked him if he was afraid of contact and Cedeno said no, he's not afraid of anything. So Dusty's ok now b/c "he gave me the answer I wanted to hear" (or something similarly macho).

[bhogg]

I thought Cedeno bailed on the steal attempt. Couple that with the horrible throw to the plate a day or two ago and I see no reason why Baker shouldn't have chewed his butt out. That's what happens when you screw up. Too bad Baker isn't consistent with things like this. . . . just another reason to get of him, I suppose.

[Sammy Sofa]

Sorry about the long post...I tend to ramble late at night...I guess the big thing was just the bizarre dynamic of the lecture. Everyone else is hanging to the other end of the dugout but Z is right there, watching everything, and Walker seems to be a part of it, too.

 

I want to see Cedeno succeed, but I think he has dogged a few plays trying to not get hit, so him getting chewed out for that (theoretically) makes sense...just like it's been said, I wish Dusty was more consistent with that behavior. It was strange seeing him that animated and upset.

[3finger]

I want to see Cedeno succeed, but I think he has dogged a few plays trying to not get hit, so him getting chewed out for that (theoretically) makes sense...just like it's been said, I wish Dusty was more consistent with that behavior. It was strange seeing him that animated and upset.

 

I wish Dusty would get upset at Cedeno over his .281 OBP instead of this play. I was at the game, and I believe this was the play where Nick Johnson performed a decent take-out slide.

 

Tale of the tape:

 

Ronny 6-0 180'

Nick 6-3 224'

 

Maybe Cedeno should have been in a better position to take the throw, but I can't blame him for avoiding contact in this case.

[dvdd127]

I wish Dusty would get upset at Cedeno over his .281 OBP instead of this play. I was at the game, and I believe this was the play where Nick Johnson performed a decent take-out slide.

Come on we all know Dusty is nit picky.. and thats why he has to go

[Jon]

Dusty would only get upset if Cedeno had good numbers against a certain pitcher and then failed to produce in that individual game.

[CubsBullsBears]

He'd also be upset if Cedeno kept taking walks

[dvdd127]

He'd also be upset if Cedeno kept taking walks

Its sad but true.... For crying out loud... Jim PLEASE FIRE DUSTY

[jjgman21]

IMO, young players need to be coached, veterans need to be chewed, when they screw up.

 

Dusty's energy is completely misplaced and even if it were not, there's a time and a place for holding someone accountable, and that time and place is not in the dugout between innings.

[dvdd127]

IMO, young players need to be coached, veterans need to be chewed, when they screw up.

 

Dusty's energy is completely misplaced and even if it were not, there's a time and a place for holding someone accountable, and that time and place is not in the dugout between innings.

OMG, this is the reason he needs to go!!!!!! Thats what we are all in agreeance on. *Sarcasim*

[jjgman21]

IMO, young players need to be coached, veterans need to be chewed, when they screw up.

 

Dusty's energy is completely misplaced and even if it were not, there's a time and a place for holding someone accountable, and that time and place is not in the dugout between innings.

OMG, this is the reason he needs to go!!!!!! Thats what we are all in agreeance on. *Sarcasim*

 

dude, I'm not sure what your post even means. perhaps you are agreeing with me, perhaps not.

 

but I do know that these one line posts that add nothing to the conversation are not particularly welcome. I know you are relatively new, but the general idea here is to not be like the ESPN and Cubs.com boards.

[dvdd127]

IMO, young players need to be coached, veterans need to be chewed, when they screw up.

 

Dusty's energy is completely misplaced and even if it were not, there's a time and a place for holding someone accountable, and that time and place is not in the dugout between innings.

OMG, this is the reason he needs to go!!!!!! Thats what we are all in agreeance on. *Sarcasim*

 

dude, I'm not sure what your post even means. perhaps you are agreeing with me, perhaps not.

 

but I do know that these one line posts that add nothing to the conversation are not particularly welcome. I know you are relatively new, but the general idea here is to not be like the ESPN and Cubs.com boards.

I was agreeing with you. but in a sarcastic way because i feel that what you said is an obvious statement

[EastonBlues22]

IMO, young players need to be coached, veterans need to be chewed, when they screw up.

 

Dusty's energy is completely misplaced and even if it were not, there's a time and a place for holding someone accountable, and that time and place is not in the dugout between innings.

OMG, this is the reason he needs to go!!!!!! Thats what we are all in agreeance on. *Sarcasim*

 

dude, I'm not sure what your post even means. perhaps you are agreeing with me, perhaps not.

 

but I do know that these one line posts that add nothing to the conversation are not particularly welcome. I know you are relatively new, but the general idea here is to not be like the ESPN and Cubs.com boards.

I was agreeing with you. but in a sarcastic way because i feel that what you said is an obvious statement

Sarcasm indicates that you mean the opposite of what you are saying...hence, his confusion.

[dvdd127]

^^^^

Ok. well.. lets get back to the topic.. and not my sarcasim

[Magnetic Curses]

dusty needs to be chewing out cedeno for thinking every pitch he sees is a good one to hit, because cedeno is a terrible hitter.

[soccer10k]

^^^^

Ok. well.. lets get back to the topic.. and not my sarcasim

 

There's no 'i' in sarcasm.

[dvdd127]

^^^^

Ok. well.. lets get back to the topic.. and not my sarcasim

 

There's no 'i' in sarcasm.

sorry.. but who cares...not everyone can spell.

 

dusty needs to be chewing out cedeno for thinking every pitch he sees is a good one to hit, because cedeno is a terrible hitter.

Cedeno is not a terrible hitter...but he does have a lot to learn. And I do agree that Baker needs to chew him out on pitch selection.

[Sammy Sofa]

^^^^

Ok. well.. lets get back to the topic.. and not my sarcasim

 

There's no 'i' in sarcasm.

sorry.. but who cares...not everyone can spell.

 

dusty needs to be chewing out cedeno for thinking every pitch he sees is a good one to hit, because cedeno is a terrible hitter.

Cedeno is not a terrible hitter...but he does have a lot to learn. And I do agree that Baker needs to chew him out on pitch selection.

 

With the exception of how he played last year, over the winter and early this year, he's been a pretty crappy hitter. I still want to see him play, but I'm trying to be realistic.