6/25 Cubs (Marshall) at Twins (Radke) 1:10 CST WGN TV

[Fred Hornkohl]

Howry in to pitch for the CUBS

 

04/03 - 06/24        IP    H    R   ER   BB    K   HR    PC  BB/9   K/9  HR/9  WHIP   ERA
Howry              33.7   33   12   11    8   30    3   593  2.14  8.02  0.80  1.22  2.94

[C.C.]

Marshall deserves better than this. I hope he stays mentally tough and learns from this.

 

As much as people here have been drooling over Marshall, his numbers have not been all that good this season. He's handled himself well, all things considered, but I don't think he's proven much more than any other pitching prospect in this system.

 

I mean, for heaven's sake, his ERA is 4.92 with an away ERA of 6.53! That's just dreadful.

 

I don't think drooling is the word. No one projected him as a number one starter. He made a huge jump from the low Minors and he's held his own.

 

hill made a bigger jump last year, struggled a little, and has been written off by many.

 

The circumstances were different last year. This season, look at Marshall's first 4 starts compared to Hill's. Marshall gave up 4/4/2/0 ERs while Hill surrendered 5/5/3/7 ERs. It's no wonder he was sent down. Like I said before, I think Hill will get another chance but he certainly didn't take advantage of his opportunities.

 

Marshall has been inconsistent but that's to be expected. Unlike Hill, he's shown some dominance on this level; In 8 of his 15 starts he's given up 2 or fewer runs.

 

Thank you! You said exactly what I was trying to for the past 2 pages of threads.

[Blueheart05]

Anyone else enjoy it when Brenly rips on Ramirez, even if it's just with a seemingly innocuous comment?

 

"That probably wouldn't have been a triple with the way Ramirez came out of the box."

 

As a whole, Ram doesn't hustle. I don't know how that can be disputed.

[Fred Hornkohl]

Cuddyer grounded out to third, 5-3

[C.C.]

Anyone else enjoy it when Brenly rips on Ramirez, even if it's just with a seemingly innocuous comment?

 

"That probably wouldn't have been a triple with the way Ramirez came out of the box."

 

As a whole, Ram doesn't hustle. I don't know how that can be disputed.

 

At least his Defense has been very good this year.

[MarkPrior]

Neifi makes a heck of a play and Ramirez gets caught out of postion.

 

Neifi's throw was absolutely horrible on that play. Even if Ramirez was in position, he wouldn't have been able to field that throw.

 

I think you're wrong. Ramirez should have been on the other side of the bag and closer to it.

 

Neifi gets no sympathy from me. Trying to turn a double play while backpedaling. What a clown!

 

I just defend the play that just happened and not what already happened before that! :D

 

Yea. I think we all know the Cubs are miles away from being a big league team. As someone mentioned, they do not do the little things and made note the Cardinals do. As much as we hate that team, we have to admit, they are a very well rounded team. The Cubs just make me sick now.

[Fred Hornkohl]

Morneau struck out swinging

[C.C.]

What a waste of 95 million dollars.

[Fred Hornkohl]

Hunter homered to left center field

[C.C.]

Cubs don't deserve this fan base...They really don't

[abuck1220]

Marshall deserves better than this. I hope he stays mentally tough and learns from this.

 

As much as people here have been drooling over Marshall, his numbers have not been all that good this season. He's handled himself well, all things considered, but I don't think he's proven much more than any other pitching prospect in this system.

 

I mean, for heaven's sake, his ERA is 4.92 with an away ERA of 6.53! That's just dreadful.

 

I don't think drooling is the word. No one projected him as a number one starter. He made a huge jump from the low Minors and he's held his own.

 

hill made a bigger jump last year, struggled a little, and has been written off by many.

 

The circumstances were different last year. This season, look at Marshall's first 4 starts compared to Hill's. Marshall gave up 4/4/2/0 ERs while Hill surrendered 5/5/3/7 ERs. It's no wonder he was sent down. Like I said before, I think Hill will get another chance but he certainly didn't take advantage of his opportunities.

 

Marshall has been inconsistent but that's to be expected. Unlike Hill, he's shown some dominance on this level; In 8 of his 15 starts he's given up 2 or fewer runs.

 

that's not true. marshall gave up as many runs in his first start as hill did in his first three extended outings combined. hill followed up 4 1/3 hitless innings of relief with two starts of two runs allowed each.

 

i'm certainly not arguing that hill's been better than marshall, but hill has shown flashes of success. his overall numbers in '05 were hurt by two horrible outings.

[CuseCubFan69]

Uh oh...now Hendry will think that Hunter is the missing piece to the puzzle.

[abuck1220]

eyre and howry are getting a lot of $ to pitch mop up innings.

[Fred Hornkohl]

BOTTOM OF THE SEVENTH INNING

 

Howry in to pitch for the CUBS

Cuddyer grounded out to third, 5-3

Morneau struck out swinging

Hunter homered to left center field

Sierra flied out to deep center field

 

1 runs, 1 hits, 0 errors, 0 men left on base

 

              1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9    R H E
CUBS          0 0 0 0 0 0 0        0 7 3 
Minnesota     0 2 3 0 0 1 1        7 8 0 

 

Home runs: Hunter (11)

 

pitcher     IP  H  R ER BB  K HR PIT
Marshall   4.7  6  5  4  3  3  0  94 
Novoa      1.3  1  1  1  1  2  0  25 
Howry      1.0  1  1  1  0  1  1  15 

[Outshined_One]

Uh oh...now Hendry will think that Hunter is the missing piece to the puzzle.

 

Nah, it'll be Radke. :D

[C.C.]

eyre and howry are getting a lot of $ to pitch mop up innings.

 

And Dempster.

[CuseCubFan69]

Uh oh...now Hendry will think that Hunter is the missing piece to the puzzle.

 

Nah, it'll be Radke. :D

 

Why not both?

[Fred Hornkohl]

CUBS are 0-12 when they trail by 7 or more runs after 7 innings.

 

Go CUBS !!

[Fred Hornkohl]

Reyes in to pitch for Minnesota

[Outshined_One]

Uh oh...now Hendry will think that Hunter is the missing piece to the puzzle.

 

Nah, it'll be Radke. :D

 

Why not both?

 

Quick, get the Twins on the phone! Tell them we're willing to offer Gallagher, Marmol, and Patterson!

 

If they're hesitating, throw in Pie. That'll get the deal done!

[CuseCubFan69]

eyre and howry are getting a lot of $ to pitch mop up innings.

 

The team is getting 95 million to play like this along with the 4 Baker makes. This is a whole organizational overpayed mess.

[Fred Hornkohl]

Pierre grounded an IF single to the pitcher

[C.C.]

Marshall deserves better than this. I hope he stays mentally tough and learns from this.

 

As much as people here have been drooling over Marshall, his numbers have not been all that good this season. He's handled himself well, all things considered, but I don't think he's proven much more than any other pitching prospect in this system.

 

I mean, for heaven's sake, his ERA is 4.92 with an away ERA of 6.53! That's just dreadful.

 

I don't think drooling is the word. No one projected him as a number one starter. He made a huge jump from the low Minors and he's held his own.

 

hill made a bigger jump last year, struggled a little, and has been written off by many.

 

The circumstances were different last year. This season, look at Marshall's first 4 starts compared to Hill's. Marshall gave up 4/4/2/0 ERs while Hill surrendered 5/5/3/7 ERs. It's no wonder he was sent down. Like I said before, I think Hill will get another chance but he certainly didn't take advantage of his opportunities.

 

Marshall has been inconsistent but that's to be expected. Unlike Hill, he's shown some dominance on this level; In 8 of his 15 starts he's given up 2 or fewer runs.

 

 

that's not true. marshall gave up as many runs in his first start as hill did in his first three extended outings combined. hill followed up 4 1/3 hitless innings of relief with two starts of two runs allowed each.

 

i'm certainly not arguing that hill's been better than marshall, but hill has shown flashes of success. his overall numbers in '05 were hurt by two horrible outings.

 

Let's just wait for Hill to win a major league game before we start to hype him up..

Edited June 25, 2006 by C.C.

[CuseCubFan69]

Uh oh...now Hendry will think that Hunter is the missing piece to the puzzle.

 

Nah, it'll be Radke. :D

 

Why not both?

 

Quick, get the Twins on the phone! Tell them we're willing to offer Gallagher, Marmol, and Patterson!

 

If they're hesitating, throw in Pie. That'll get the deal done!

 

Don't kid!!!! This will be the only time Hendry reads this baord and this will be the thing he reads!

[RonnieWooWooSanto]

I don't even want this team to come home. I want them to just stay on the road. I don't want to see a packed Wrigley Field and this horrendous team on the field. Blech.