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he Associated Press reports Atlanta Braves 1B Adam LaRoche, who suffers from attention deficit disorder, was criticized for slowly jogging to first base after running to grab a ground ball off the bat of Washington Nationals 1B Nick Johnson. LaRoche's slow effort resulted in Johnson reaching first safely, drawing the ire of manager Bobby Cox. "It's lack of focus and lack of hustle," a contrite LaRoche said. "That's all it is."

 

See dusty, you don't need to be their friends, or be liked. You need to be respected and not walked all over. Grow a friggin backbone and quit making excuses for your team.

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he Associated Press reports Atlanta Braves 1B Adam LaRoche, who suffers from attention deficit disorder, was criticized for slowly jogging to first base after running to grab a ground ball off the bat of Washington Nationals 1B Nick Johnson. LaRoche's slow effort resulted in Johnson reaching first safely, drawing the ire of manager Bobby Cox. "It's lack of focus and lack of hustle," a contrite LaRoche said. "That's all it is."

 

See dusty, you don't need to be their friends, or be liked. You need to be respected and not walked all over. Grow a friggin backbone and quit making excuses for your team.

 

Not sure how this has anything to do with Dusty. Cox was not quoted at all in your post and I fail to see how any manager could back up LaRoche for doing what he did yesterday, including Dusty.

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he Associated Press reports Atlanta Braves 1B Adam LaRoche, who suffers from attention deficit disorder, was criticized for slowly jogging to first base after running to grab a ground ball off the bat of Washington Nationals 1B Nick Johnson. LaRoche's slow effort resulted in Johnson reaching first safely, drawing the ire of manager Bobby Cox. "It's lack of focus and lack of hustle," a contrite LaRoche said. "That's all it is."

 

See dusty, you don't need to be their friends, or be liked. You need to be respected and not walked all over. Grow a friggin backbone and quit making excuses for your team.

 

Not sure how this has anything to do with Dusty. Cox was not quoted at all in your post and I fail to see how any manager could back up LaRoche for doing what he did yesterday, including Dusty.

 

I think he was just pointing out the fact that the article said he "drew the ire" of Cox. And LaRoche was at least being accountable for his actions, saying that he didnt' go all out. Second part had nothing to do with Cox, but anyway...

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he Associated Press reports Atlanta Braves 1B Adam LaRoche, who suffers from attention deficit disorder, was criticized for slowly jogging to first base after running to grab a ground ball off the bat of Washington Nationals 1B Nick Johnson. LaRoche's slow effort resulted in Johnson reaching first safely, drawing the ire of manager Bobby Cox. "It's lack of focus and lack of hustle," a contrite LaRoche said. "That's all it is."

 

See dusty, you don't need to be their friends, or be liked. You need to be respected and not walked all over. Grow a friggin backbone and quit making excuses for your team.

 

Not sure how this has anything to do with Dusty. Cox was not quoted at all in your post and I fail to see how any manager could back up LaRoche for doing what he did yesterday, including Dusty.

 

I think he was just pointing out the fact that the article said he "drew the ire" of Cox. And LaRoche was at least being accountable for his actions, saying that he didnt' go all out. Second part had nothing to do with Cox, but anyway...

 

Yep. I can think of about 15 plays this year that should have drawn the IRE of Dusty Baker.

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I've pointed out many, many times in the past that Cox does most of the same things as Dusty Baker as a manager, from lineups to in-game management.

 

Using Cox as an example of a manager that does things right isn't quite the way to go if your intent is toput down Dusty, because strategically they are similar managers.

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I've pointed out many, many times in the past that Cox does most of the same things as Dusty Baker as a manager, from lineups to in-game management.

 

Using Cox as an example of a manager that does things right isn't quite the way to go if your intent is toput down Dusty, because strategically they are similar managers.

 

To quote an episode of Seinfeld:

 

"George: Who do you think you are?

 

Jerry: I'm just like you....only successful."

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A better example utilizing a much better manager than Dusty - Jim Leyland.

 

“Jim has a vision of the way baseball should be played and has a terrific ability to adjust his vision to tailor it to what he has,” Angels manager Mike Scioscia said. “He certainly has them playing at a high level and they’ve got a lot of ingredients you look for in a championship-caliber team.”

 

“What was good about him going off on us was the timing,” said third baseman Brandon Inge. “He did it early, and not in the middle or late in the season when it might’ve been too late. He didn’t like what he saw, he let us know it very clearly, and we’ve responded.”

 

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12644057/

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See the thing I don't like is when Dusty backers say 'Dusty doesn't call out a player to the media, he does it behind closed doors". Well maybe a player DOES need to get called out to the media. Maybe they need to feel slightly embarassed otherwise they don't get the message.
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See the thing I don't like is when Dusty backers say 'Dusty doesn't call out a player to the media, he does it behind closed doors". Well maybe a player DOES need to get called out to the media. Maybe they need to feel slightly embarassed otherwise they don't get the message.

 

Couldn't agree more. And if a player can't handle a little criticism, how is he going to respond in a high pressure game situation. If a guy can't take it, I don't want him on my team.

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I think to a lot of people there are two things a manager has to do:

 

1) the strategy.

2) the motivation

 

Dusty seems to understand this, as he's said several times:

 

http://www.nwherald.com/SportsSection/pro/288685421977106.php

 

"I'm the motivator," he said. "Sometimes, as tough as it is, the motivator has to find ways to be motivated, too."

 

Yea he's a motivator alright.

 

:roll:

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I've pointed out many, many times in the past that Cox does most of the same things as Dusty Baker as a manager, from lineups to in-game management.

 

Using Cox as an example of a manager that does things right isn't quite the way to go if your intent is toput down Dusty, because strategically they are similar managers.

 

Two things come to mind that Cox does that Dusty doesn't do

 

1) Play young players.

2) Call out his players when they dog it. My favorite was a few years back when Andruw Jones obviously didn't hustle on a blooper and let it land in front of him for a single. Cox replaced him in the middle of the inning.

 

The first one has much more of an effect on wins and losses IMO, but the second one is something a manager should still do.

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I've pointed out many, many times in the past that Cox does most of the same things as Dusty Baker as a manager, from lineups to in-game management.

 

Using Cox as an example of a manager that does things right isn't quite the way to go if your intent is toput down Dusty, because strategically they are similar managers.

 

Two things come to mind that Cox does that Dusty doesn't do

 

1) Play young players.

2) Call out his players when they dog it. My favorite was a few years back when Andruw Jones obviously didn't hustle on a blooper and let it land in front of him for a single. Cox replaced him in the middle of the inning.

 

The first one has much more of an effect on wins and losses IMO, but the second one is something a manager should still do.

I think #2 happened last year. That's is the kind of manager we need. I dont care if you are a superstar or not, you need to hustle on any play and that is the managers job to make sure the player does that. Baker only does that to the rookies but he doesn't hold the veterans accountable for jack.

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The runner should have been called out on the play. Cox also got tossed from the game for holding up 4 fingers (4 runs scored after that) to the ump after the inning, the play should have been the 3rd out.
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I've pointed out many, many times in the past that Cox does most of the same things as Dusty Baker as a manager, from lineups to in-game management.

 

Using Cox as an example of a manager that does things right isn't quite the way to go if your intent is toput down Dusty, because strategically they are similar managers.

 

Two things come to mind that Cox does that Dusty doesn't do

 

1) Play young players.

2) Call out his players when they dog it. My favorite was a few years back when Andruw Jones obviously didn't hustle on a blooper and let it land in front of him for a single. Cox replaced him in the middle of the inning.

 

The first one has much more of an effect on wins and losses IMO, but the second one is something a manager should still do.

I think #2 happened last year. That's is the kind of manager we need. I dont care if you are a superstar or not, you need to hustle on any play and that is the managers job to make sure the player does that. Baker only does that to the rookies but he doesn't hold the veterans accountable for jack.

 

I wanted Bynum pulled after he dropped the ball in San Diego. On, and to the guy who said that Dusty is a motivator, WATCH THE TEAM, THEY ARN'T MOTIVATED AT ALL.

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The runner should have been called out on the play. Cox also got tossed from the game for holding up 4 fingers (4 runs scored after that) to the ump after the inning, the play should have been the 3rd out.

But who were the four fingers really directed at.. the ump or LaRoche?

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