Beatles or Stones?

[OleMissCub]

The beatles are just so painfully overhyped..

Yellow submarine(the song)'s success says a lot

 

Yellow Submarine was written as a children's song and was never meant to be taken seriously. You won't see it on any greatest songs ever list, so it's hard to imagine how that song could be used to show that the beatles were overhyped. It's a popular song, but nobody would argue that it's some brilliant song.

[srbin84]

The beatles are just so painfully overhyped..

Yellow submarine(the song)'s success says a lot

 

Yellow Submarine was written as a children's song and was never meant to be taken seriously. You won't see it on any greatest songs ever list, so it's hard to imagine how that song could be used to show that the beatles were overhyped. It's a popular song, but nobody would argue that it's some brilliant song.

 

I once heard a DJ on the radio say it was a metaphor for communism... :roll:

[Careless]

The beatles are just so painfully overhyped..

Yellow submarine(the song)'s success says a lot

 

Yellow Submarine was written as a children's song and was never meant to be taken seriously. You won't see it on any greatest songs ever list, so it's hard to imagine how that song could be used to show that the beatles were overhyped. It's a popular song, but nobody would argue that it's some brilliant song.

it was #1 for 4 weeks in the UK. People were completely willing to eat up anything the Beatles put out

[OleMissCub]

The beatles are just so painfully overhyped..

Yellow submarine(the song)'s success says a lot

 

Yellow Submarine was written as a children's song and was never meant to be taken seriously. You won't see it on any greatest songs ever list, so it's hard to imagine how that song could be used to show that the beatles were overhyped. It's a popular song, but nobody would argue that it's some brilliant song.

it was #1 for 4 weeks in the UK. People were completely willing to eat up anything the Beatles put out

 

So what? "Wannabee" by the Spice Girls was No.1 too for months.

 

I think you are oversimplifying things here. The Beatles had plenty of failures, chiefly The Magicaly Mystery Tour movie, which was bashed by critics and rightfully so...it sucks.

 

People bought their albums because they were good, unique, and fresh for their time, which is something that I wish we saw more of today in the music industry.

 

People STILL buy their albums on a consistent basis because the quality of the product is still the same: It's good music.

[OleMissCub]

The beatles are just so painfully overhyped..

Yellow submarine(the song)'s success says a lot

 

Yellow Submarine was written as a children's song and was never meant to be taken seriously. You won't see it on any greatest songs ever list, so it's hard to imagine how that song could be used to show that the beatles were overhyped. It's a popular song, but nobody would argue that it's some brilliant song.

 

I once heard a DJ on the radio say it was a metaphor for communism... :roll:

 

Naw, it was written by Lennon/McCartney because they needed a song for Ringo to sing on the "Revolver" album. Since Ringo couldn't, and still can't, still worth a crap, they usually gave him silly songs to sing. Such was the case with Yellow Submarine.

 

The Beatles certainly didn't like communism, "Revolution" makes John's feelings on it seem pretty obvious. However, "Imagine" could be taken by many as a song about communism.

[Andy]

The beatles are just so painfully overhyped..

Yellow submarine(the song)'s success says a lot

 

Yellow Submarine was written as a children's song and was never meant to be taken seriously. You won't see it on any greatest songs ever list, so it's hard to imagine how that song could be used to show that the beatles were overhyped. It's a popular song, but nobody would argue that it's some brilliant song.

 

I once heard a DJ on the radio say it was a metaphor for communism... :roll:

 

Naw, it was written by Lennon/McCartney because they needed a song for Ringo to sing on the "Revolver" album. Since Ringo couldn't, and still can't, still worth a crap, they usually gave him silly songs to sing. Such was the case with Yellow Submarine.

 

The Beatles certainly didn't like communism, "Revolution" makes John's feelings on it seem pretty obvious. However, "Imagine" could be taken by many as a song about communism.

It does seem like a procommunist song when you think about it but I'm sure that wasn't the intent.

 

I passed 5000 posts earlier today.

[OleMissCub]

The beatles are just so painfully overhyped..

Yellow submarine(the song)'s success says a lot

 

Yellow Submarine was written as a children's song and was never meant to be taken seriously. You won't see it on any greatest songs ever list, so it's hard to imagine how that song could be used to show that the beatles were overhyped. It's a popular song, but nobody would argue that it's some brilliant song.

 

I once heard a DJ on the radio say it was a metaphor for communism... :roll:

 

Naw, it was written by Lennon/McCartney because they needed a song for Ringo to sing on the "Revolver" album. Since Ringo couldn't, and still can't, still worth a crap, they usually gave him silly songs to sing. Such was the case with Yellow Submarine.

 

The Beatles certainly didn't like communism, "Revolution" makes John's feelings on it seem pretty obvious. However, "Imagine" could be taken by many as a song about communism.

It does seem like a procommunist song when you think about it but I'm sure that wasn't the intent.

 

I passed 5000 posts earlier today.

 

Definitely dont' think it was his intent. Especially in light of his lyric from "Revolution":

 

But if you go carrying pictures of chairman Mao

You ain't going to make it with anyone anyhow

 

Congrats on the 5000 posts....i've been here 2 years longer than you and you are already 1500 posts higher than me.

[MPrior]

I have spent most of my life as a pretty huge Beatles and Stones fan - they're both incredible. But the Beatles are, in my extremely biased opinion, the best band to have hit the mainstream ever. The collection of and collaboration between arguably three, definitely two musical geniuses is what makes them so incredible. The Beatles were more than the sum of their parts, and are at least indirectly responsible for many, if not most, advances in music since they hit the scene.

[Derwood]

Not only do I think the Stone are far worse than the Beatles, I would rank them below Pink Floyd, Led Zeppelin, CSNY, and The Who as far as classic rock bands go.

[srbin84]

I'm not surprised at the results as most of the people here seem to have a beatles fan personality, which is fine.

[OleMissCub]

I'm not surprised at the results as most of the people here seem to have a beatles fan personality, which is fine.

 

Beatles fan personality? What, Intelligence? Artisticly minded?

[srbin84]

I'm not surprised at the results as most of the people here seem to have a beatles fan personality, which is fine.

 

Beatles fan personality? What, Intelligence? Artisticly minded?

 

Those characteristics don't preclude me from being a Stones fan, but yeah.

[OleMissCub]

I'm not surprised at the results as most of the people here seem to have a beatles fan personality, which is fine.

 

Beatles fan personality? What, Intelligence? Artisticly minded?

 

Those characteristics don't preclude me from being a Stones fan, but yeah.

 

I guess we should treat that as a complement then.

[sunnydoo]

Mr Richards is in the hospital in NZ after falling out of a coconut tree. Someone needs to tell him that 62 year olds dont need to be in trees. As if this wasnt enuff, he got up and got onto his Sea Doo and had another accident.

Richards

 

Lucky for him, Mick wasnt around. The accident might have been "permanent" then.

[OleMissCub]

Indeed, Keith should NOT be climbing trees.

 

As a sign of truce between Stones and Beatles lovers, I offer this amazing clip from the Rolling Stones RocknRoll Circus in 1968. It's John Lennon, Keith Richards, Eric Clapton, and Mitch Mitchell from the Jimi Hendrix Experience performing "Yer Blues", a Beatles song from the White Album. Talk about rocking one's socks off. This is just WOW.

 

 

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LAjdRHzH4M8

[srbin84]

I'm not surprised at the results as most of the people here seem to have a beatles fan personality, which is fine.

 

Beatles fan personality? What, Intelligence? Artisticly minded?

 

Those characteristics don't preclude me from being a Stones fan, but yeah.

 

I guess we should treat that as a complement then.

 

Sure. I think Stones fans in general are a little more wild, like to have fun, party. When I think of a Stones fan, I think of a guy wandering into a bar/club after smoking a cigarette or a joint outside. He hears "Can't you hear me knocking" playing on the juke box, gets himself a beer, spots a hot young girl with or without a man there, doesn't matter...sweet talks her and eventually the two go back to his car or to the bathroom together. There aren't many intelligent, artistically minded people who could or would do something like that. When I think of a Beatles fan, I think of a guy relaxing at home, takes out his record player and throws on Abbey Road or whatever, listens to the whole record, doesn't skip songs, listens to the music intently and tries to interpret the lyrics. I think listening to the Beatles is the experience, listening to the Stones...that's just a soundtrack to a great time.

[OleMissCub]

I think listening to the Beatles is the experience, listening to the Stones...that's just a soundtrack to a great time.

 

I think that's a fair judgment. It's hard to critize the Stones for not making material as musically innovative as the Beatles because I don't think the Stones ever had that intent. With someone like Paul McCartney you have a man who by the time he was 30 had composed the scores to several films, and is considered by many to be the greatest melodic modern songwriter ever. With Lennon, you have someone who by the time he was 25 had written a play and 2 books, as well as pioneering sound engineering and how it can apply to Rock music. Lennon is often credited as being the first rocker to use distortion in a song: 1965's "I Feel Fine", as well as being the first rock musician to use backwards sound looping (66's "Rain"), and first to use sampling (68's "Revolution #9). All 3 of which are enormous staples of Modern Music.

 

Then on the other hand....you've got Mick and Keith. Two men who'd probably put 17th century pirates to shame. Both men have done more dirty deeds than the entirety of Blackbeard's fleet put together. It's impossible to imagine either of them hunched over a soundboard in a studio for 10 hours a day. They used those 10 hours to go get laid and live their life as they saw fit. I don't imagine they ever took themselves too seriously as Rock'n'Roll innovators. They left that to their great friends from Liverpool.

[srbin84]

I think listening to the Beatles is the experience, listening to the Stones...that's just a soundtrack to a great time.

 

I think that's a fair judgment. It's hard to critize the Stones for not making material as musically innovative as the Beatles because I don't think the Stones ever had that intent. With someone like Paul McCartney you have a man who by the time he was 30 had composed the scores to several films, and is considered by many to be the greatest melodic modern songwriter ever. With Lennon, you have someone who by the time he was 25 had written a play and 2 books, as well as pioneering sound engineering and how it can apply to Rock music. Lennon is often credited as being the first rocker to use distortion in a song: 1965's "I Feel Fine", as well as being the first rock musician to use backwards sound looping (66's "Rain"), and first to use sampling (68's "Revolution #9). All 3 of which are enormous staples of Modern Music.

 

Then on the other hand....you've got Mick and Keith. Two men who'd probably put 17th century pirates to shame. Both men have done more dirty deeds than the entirety of Blackbeard's fleet put together. It's impossible to imagine either of them hunched over a soundboard in a studio for 10 hours a day. They used those 10 hours to go get laid and live their life as they saw fit. I don't imagine they ever took themselves too seriously as Rock'n'Roll innovators. They left that to their great friends from Liverpool.

 

Exactly. That's why it's hard to compare them because they did completely different things, but they were both the best ever at what they did do.

[Drew Doughty]

The Beatles, though I'd take The Who in a heartbeat over both.

[Ding Dong Johnson]

I never liked the Beatles for some odd reason. I was always fan of McCartney, and I loved Lennon.

 

I picked the Stones because Mick and Keith are each 153 years old and still going.

[MPrior]

Indeed, Keith should NOT be climbing trees.

 

As a sign of truce between Stones and Beatles lovers, I offer this amazing clip from the Rolling Stones RocknRoll Circus in 1968. It's John Lennon, Keith Richards, Eric Clapton, and Mitch Mitchell from the Jimi Hendrix Experience performing "Yer Blues", a Beatles song from the White Album. Talk about rocking one's socks off. This is just WOW.

 

 

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LAjdRHzH4M8

 

Thank you for that. It was completely awesome - four people who were truly great at what they do.

[OleMissCub]

Indeed, Keith should NOT be climbing trees.

 

As a sign of truce between Stones and Beatles lovers, I offer this amazing clip from the Rolling Stones RocknRoll Circus in 1968. It's John Lennon, Keith Richards, Eric Clapton, and Mitch Mitchell from the Jimi Hendrix Experience performing "Yer Blues", a Beatles song from the White Album. Talk about rocking one's socks off. This is just WOW.

 

 

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LAjdRHzH4M8

 

Thank you for that. It was completely awesome - four people who were truly great at what they do.

 

Ya, i've downloaded that and I watch it ALL the time. It's so incredible. Weird to see Keith without his leather face.

 

Another thing of note that's interesting is how skinny John was, as that was at the height of his heroin addiction.

[Balsa]

Did you know that they invented distortion on guitars?

Thought this was Hendrix?

 

Touche on the preppy call. I still like the Bluesy aspect of the Stones that the Beatles never approaced though. And I'd agree that the Stones should have hung up the spikes after Jones died.

 

I've just bought a harmonica, and that guy had some talent.

[OleMissCub]

Did you know that they invented distortion on guitars?

Thought this was Hendrix?

.

 

Naw, in 1965 when they were recording "I Feel Fine", the boys were going out to have a smoke and John leaned his guitar against the amp and the A string started reverbing back, and everyone was like "HOLY CRAP!" So they learned that if you played guitar next to the amp you could get distortion out of a guitar. He's generally given credit for discovering that and how to translate that to songs.

 

The Beatles had their share of blues too. Watch that video clip I posted, it's a pretty bluesy Beatles tune. But ya, the Stones definitely are more bluesy.

[rocket]

not that this really fits in the current topic, but i always felt the kinks were never given enough due for their influence. i wouldn't rate them above led zeppelin, beatles, or rolling stones in terms of their influence on music, but i think they're in the same ballpark.