worst game of the year

[tinkers1]

Okay that was I think our worst game of the year, we had that game where we got blown out by the Reds but this one was worse I think, maybe in part to the fact that it was to the Cards. All teams have bad games so thats not the end of the world, but we don't exactly have our best pitching going this weekend and now without Lee I'm worried that this team will fall apart, but lets hope not. The Cards are always a good team and Pujols and Edmonds are going to get their homeruns but man last night stank.

[YearofDaCubs]

Look on the bright side, in 3 hours we get to watch Glendon pitch.

[tinkers1]

Thanks you just made me feel so much better, I better start drinking now if I want to buzzed and indifferent by the time the game starts.

[tinkers1]

Has anybody else noticed that our pitchers seem to be having problems not throwing a lot of pitchers to the oppossing hitters. Even when our guys pitch "well" and get guys out their having to throw a lot of pitches to do so and they seem to working a lot of 3-2 counts etc. and just are not putting guys away when they get ahead in the count. Maybe its because its early in the year but so far all our guys except Maddux in his last start have been doing this and they've been walking a lot of guys because of it and it concerns me, because I keep seeing our pitchers getting guys in 0-2 counts and then they next thing you know they've walked.

[sethuel1]

Has anybody else noticed that our pitchers seem to be having problems not throwing a lot of pitchers to the oppossing hitters. Even when our guys pitch "well" and get guys out their having to throw a lot of pitches to do so and they seem to working a lot of 3-2 counts etc. and just are not putting guys away when they get ahead in the count. Maybe its because its early in the year but so far all our guys except Maddux in his last start have been doing this and they've been walking a lot of guys because of it and it concerns me, because I keep seeing our pitchers getting guys in 0-2 counts and then they next thing you know they've walked.

 

I think it's exacerbated by the fact that our hitters don't work the count.

[JGalt73]

We're leading the NL in pitches thrown per plate appearance, and near the bottom (12/16) in K/BB ratio. This needs to chage...

[tinkers1]

Okay so its not my imagination than and it really worries me, it just seems like our pitchers aren't going after guys and putting them away. Of course on an 0-2 count you don't want to just throw a fatty pitch you want to throw something outside the zone and see if they'll get themselves out but it has to look like a good pitch and not be 4 feet off the plate and so far we are just wasting too many pitches, I have never seen a pitching staff who have had SO many 3-2 counts on hitters as ours so far this year and I hate it.

[Big Z 38]

:Looks at sig:

 

It's hopeless. If we had anyone else, our lineup would be different

[cubfan1955]

Has anybody else noticed that our pitchers seem to be having problems not throwing a lot of pitchers to the oppossing hitters. Even when our guys pitch "well" and get guys out their having to throw a lot of pitches to do so and they seem to working a lot of 3-2 counts etc. and just are not putting guys away when they get ahead in the count. Maybe its because its early in the year but so far all our guys except Maddux in his last start have been doing this and they've been walking a lot of guys because of it and it concerns me, because I keep seeing our pitchers getting guys in 0-2 counts and then they next thing you know they've walked.

 

It's because they are going for the prized almighty strikeout which, in a lot of Cubs players and coaches eyes, is a lot more valuable than a groundout to 2B. :cry:

[Guest]

Has anybody else noticed that our pitchers seem to be having problems not throwing a lot of pitchers to the oppossing hitters. Even when our guys pitch "well" and get guys out their having to throw a lot of pitches to do so and they seem to working a lot of 3-2 counts etc. and just are not putting guys away when they get ahead in the count. Maybe its because its early in the year but so far all our guys except Maddux in his last start have been doing this and they've been walking a lot of guys because of it and it concerns me, because I keep seeing our pitchers getting guys in 0-2 counts and then they next thing you know they've walked.

 

It's because they are going for the prized almighty strikeout which, in a lot of Cubs players and coaches eyes, is a lot more valuable than a groundout to 2B. :cry:

A strikeout is not more valuable than a groundout to the 2B (except in certain circumstances). However, a strikeout is significantly more valuable that allowing the ball to be put in play.

[tinkers1]

Well at the rate their going we won't have anyone with an arm worth a crap by July because their already throwing so many pitches. I agree with you strikeouts are great but you have to throw a lot more pitches per at bat to get a strikeout than you do to get a guy to hit a grounder or pop up on the first couple of pitches.

[Andy]

:Looks at sig:

 

It's hopeless. If we had anyone else, our lineup would be different

Haha, hilarious sig.

[Soul]

Worst game of the season, because I was hoping the team would rally in the face of the Lee catastrophe and it didn't happen.

[cubfan1955]

Has anybody else noticed that our pitchers seem to be having problems not throwing a lot of pitchers to the oppossing hitters. Even when our guys pitch "well" and get guys out their having to throw a lot of pitches to do so and they seem to working a lot of 3-2 counts etc. and just are not putting guys away when they get ahead in the count. Maybe its because its early in the year but so far all our guys except Maddux in his last start have been doing this and they've been walking a lot of guys because of it and it concerns me, because I keep seeing our pitchers getting guys in 0-2 counts and then they next thing you know they've walked.

 

It's because they are going for the prized almighty strikeout which, in a lot of Cubs players and coaches eyes, is a lot more valuable than a groundout to 2B. :cry:

A strikeout is not more valuable than a groundout to the 2B (except in certain circumstances). However, a strikeout is significantly more valuable that allowing the ball to be put in play.

 

While I'll agree there are times when a pitcher needs a strikeout, I'll take an inning with 3 outs made via groundball or flyout on 6 pitches than a 47 pitch inning with 3 K's and 3 walks.

[Guest]

Is anyone else here extremely impressed with Williamson so far? He's been our best pitcher to date. Opposing batters are only making contact against him in 54% of their swings, compared to a league average rate of 81%. When healthy he really does have some wicked, filthy stuff.

[Soul]

Is anyone else here extremely impressed with Williamson so far? He's been our best pitcher to date. Opposing batters are only making contact against him in 54% of their swings, compared to a league average rate of 81%. When healthy he really does have some wicked, filthy stuff.

 

He's finally starting to become what we thought we were getting. Very true. I am impressed as well.

[CubinNY]

Last night's game had all the entusiasim of a funeral. Len and Bob were moros the entire game.