Prior delayed again

[Bull]

You're right, vance. This IS his future he's dealing with. More than anybody but Maddux, Prior has always struck me as intelligent and wise. I think he's shutting himself down, and I think its a good call.

 

If the Cubs did know about this injury earlier (I don't think they did) it may have been what kept them from trading him for Tejada...a blessing in disguise, no?

 

But more likely Prior has taken it out the Cubs' less capable hands. He's been abused in the past and he knows how and when to release information.

People can call him a wuss if they want, but he's going to be around for a long time.

[Chocolate Milk]

I'm cool as long as Prior is ready for the World Series.

[mlarner]

I thought I heard on the radio a little while ago that Prior was holding a press conference today at some point to talk about his injury situation. Has anyone else heard this?

[srbin84]

I wish we could still do the Tejada for Prior deal, actually. Prior is a great pitcher, but I just can't see him making 30+ starts in a season if he isnt willing to pitch through pain.

[goonys evil twin]

I wish we could still do the Tejada for Prior deal, actually. Prior is a great pitcher, but I just can't see him making 30+ starts in a season if he isnt willing to pitch through pain.

 

Maybe he wanted out and this is his way of forcing the Cubs hand.

[moorecg]

Goony...you're signature is distracting.

 

 

And I mean that in the nicest way possible. :D

[UBlink]

Goony...you're signature is distracting.

 

 

And I mean that in the nicest way possible. :D

 

Oh, my, my -

[Bgbird68]

I'm cool as long as Prior is ready for the World Series.

 

He probably has a good travel agent, I wouldn't worry about that.

[Blueheart05]

Cubs.com has new Mark Prior quotes. He still contends that he felt fine leading up to this incident. I'll say it again, I don 't think anyone (he or the team) was hidding an injury.

 

"I was a little surprised," Prior said Friday. "I was really surprised because of the way I felt throwing. I felt like I was throwing the ball well. I was happy with the way I was throwing, and I was happy with the way the ball was coming out of my hand and I was happy with the way I threw on Sunday.

 

"When I jogged out to throw my bullpen [session] on Tuesday, I wasn't expecting anything different," Prior said. "It's obviously disheartening from the standpoint that I expected to throw [on Thursday] in a game. To go from 48 hours away from a game to being on the sidelines, it's not fun."

 

"I've been feeling great," Prior said. "I can't say that enough. I felt great throwing the ball. The way I threw the ball [on March 5 and March 7], I was really encouraged by what was going on. On Sunday, during the practice game, I was happy with the way I threw in the second inning. Everything was headed in the right direction to where I wanted to be."

 

 

The Tribune says this:

 

Mark Prior said Friday he was "stunned" to be injured and said he was baffled by those who claim they knew he was hurt coming into spring training.

 

"If somebody knew something, I wish they would have told me," the injured Cub pitcher said. "It's something that just happened Sunday."

 

The best quote:

 

"I'm still looking forward to having a great season."

[jjgman21]

the news is coming down. two articles on the Cubs website

 

An MRI arthrogram of Mark Prior's right shoulder showed the Chicago Cubs pitcher has a moderate strain to his subscapularis, and he will not require surgery.

Cubs athletic trainer Mark O'Neal said Prior will be shut down from throwing for seven to 10 days. O'Neal will meet with the pitcher, orthopedic specialist Dr. Lewis Yocum and the Cubs medical staff on Saturday to discuss the next phase for Prior. The subscapularis is part of the rotator cuff group of muscles, located under the arm pit behind the pectoralis muscle.

"By no means would it [require] any kind of surgery," O'Neal said of Prior's shoulder problem

 

 

The news could've been worse, Mark Prior said. The Cubs pitcher was feeling great this spring, and he appeared headed for his first game on Thursday. Instead, his right shoulder hurts, and he'll likely open the season on the disabled list for the third straight year.

[Ding Dong Johnson]

Here's to hoping his arthrogram doesn't mess his up like it did me. They struck a nerve or something with the needle, and I wasn't able to lift my arm for almost 9 full days. Hurt like a bee-hatch too.

[jjgman21]

I'm one that has given the benefit of the doubt to the Cubs and Prior on this, but the above described injury seems awefully fishy.

 

here's the deal. everything I have read, and my nurse in training girlfriend who aced anatomy and physiology, says that strains to the subscapularis only occur as a result of traumatic injuries, not repetetive movement.

 

so either there was some fall or other accident over the winter (ie. when Prior went to the ER for his 'respiratory infection') and throwing aggrevated it, or this is a misdiagnosis.

 

I certainly hope for the former, but after about 5 misdiagnosiseseses of Wood last year, it wouldn't surprise me.

[badger1679666666]

I love Mark Prior, but is he a total wuss? Isn't this the third time he's gone to see a specialist about "pain" and the tests have come back negative?

 

Hopefully they can get him on some strength training program to build up that muscle so these ailments don't bother him so much.

[DiamondMind]

I respect some of the other opinions, but to me, it comes down to Will Carroll and Steve Stone being right, like always, and the Cubs being wrong, like always. The past repeats itself.

[USSoccer]

I respect some of the other opinions, but to me, it comes down to Will Carroll and Steve Stone being right, like always, and the Cubs being wrong, like always. The past repeats itself.

 

You do realize Steve Stone isn't a doctor, never gives any real solid baseball information when interviewed, usually gives vague answeres to specific questions and has a Paul Bunyan sized axe to grind with the Cubs, right?

[rocket]

I respect some of the other opinions, but to me, it comes down to Will Carroll and Steve Stone being right, like always, and the Cubs being wrong, like always. The past repeats itself.

 

in that case let's do stone's proposed aramis ramirez for manny and bill mueller asap

[Illini Iceman]

I respect some of the other opinions, but to me, it comes down to Will Carroll and Steve Stone being right, like always, and the Cubs being wrong, like always. The past repeats itself.

 

You do realize Steve Stone isn't a doctor, never gives any real solid baseball information when interviewed, usually gives vague answeres to specific questions and has a Paul Bunyan sized axe to grind with the Cubs, right?

 

And he is negative about everything so considering he is commenting about the Cubs has a better than average chance of being right even if he has no clue what he is talking about.

[USSoccer]

I respect some of the other opinions, but to me, it comes down to Will Carroll and Steve Stone being right, like always, and the Cubs being wrong, like always. The past repeats itself.

 

in that case let's do stone's proposed aramis ramirez for manny and bill mueller asap

 

Yeah! Greatest trade idea ever. Let's trade a guy entering his prime for a guy leaving it AND one who makes twice as much. /sarcasm.

 

Honestly...I mean, he was a good color commentator, but he's not the baseball Jesus he gets pimped as.

[USSoccer]

I respect some of the other opinions, but to me, it comes down to Will Carroll and Steve Stone being right, like always, and the Cubs being wrong, like always. The past repeats itself.

 

You do realize Steve Stone isn't a doctor, never gives any real solid baseball information when interviewed, usually gives vague answeres to specific questions and has a Paul Bunyan sized axe to grind with the Cubs, right?

 

And he is negative about everything so considering he is commenting about the Cubs has a better than average chance of being right even if he has no clue what he is talking about.

 

exactly. It doesn't take an insightful baseball mind to gripe about Wood getting hurt, and then make sarcastic cracks at the organization that employed him for 20 years.

[CUBZ99]

I respect some of the other opinions, but to me, it comes down to Will Carroll and Steve Stone being right, like always, and the Cubs being wrong, like always. The past repeats itself.

 

You do realize Steve Stone isn't a doctor, never gives any real solid baseball information when interviewed, usually gives vague answeres to specific questions and has a Paul Bunyan sized axe to grind with the Cubs, right?

 

Looks like Stoney was right on this one, reguardless of any issues he has with the Cubs. I find it funny that Prior talked about how suprised he was to find out he was injured and claimed that he felt great etc. Not even the most adamant Hendry/Cubs Front office supporters buy that garbage.

 

Why not just give it up to Carroll for delivering the scoop and move on? The Cubs and their players would be better off not taking everything so personal.

[USSoccer]

I respect some of the other opinions, but to me, it comes down to Will Carroll and Steve Stone being right, like always, and the Cubs being wrong, like always. The past repeats itself.

 

You do realize Steve Stone isn't a doctor, never gives any real solid baseball information when interviewed, usually gives vague answeres to specific questions and has a Paul Bunyan sized axe to grind with the Cubs, right?

 

Looks like Stoney was right on this one, reguardless of any issues he has with the Cubs. I find it funny that Prior talked about how suprised he was to find out he was injured and claimed that he felt great etc. Not even the most adamant Hendry/Cubs Front office supporters buy that garbage.

 

Why not just give it up to Carroll for delivering the scoop and move on? The Cubs and their players would be better off not taking everything so personal.

 

I still don't buy that Carroll's report and Prior's injury are the same thing. I am of the mind that Prior is sore, but he overreacted to said soreness, and he doesn't trust the Cubs medical staff to treat or diagnose everything.

 

That said, all Stone did (again) was take someone elses work or story and agree with it. I'm not sure how he deserves any praise.

[CUBZ99]

I respect some of the other opinions, but to me, it comes down to Will Carroll and Steve Stone being right, like always, and the Cubs being wrong, like always. The past repeats itself.

 

You do realize Steve Stone isn't a doctor, never gives any real solid baseball information when interviewed, usually gives vague answeres to specific questions and has a Paul Bunyan sized axe to grind with the Cubs, right?

 

And he is negative about everything so considering he is commenting about the Cubs has a better than average chance of being right even if he has no clue what he is talking about.

 

Does Stoney speak different on the radio than he does for say his ESPN games? I watched an ESPN game last year and he had nothing but positive things to say about the Cubs -- AND they weren't even playing in the game. There is no doubt in my mind that Stoney is one of the biggest Cubs homers around and it is pretty pathetic that both sides can't let it drop. The Cubs do themselves no good by trying running out of town an analyst who was simply frustrated with a bad team and spoke his mind on the air.

 

There also seems to be a pattern of publicly disgracing anyone who disagrees with them or whom they don't like. My guess is that once Walker is traded we will hear every negative thing that he has done since donning a Cubs uniform. Maybe they even have video surviellance of him leaving a game early, etc.

[USSoccer]

I respect some of the other opinions, but to me, it comes down to Will Carroll and Steve Stone being right, like always, and the Cubs being wrong, like always. The past repeats itself.

 

You do realize Steve Stone isn't a doctor, never gives any real solid baseball information when interviewed, usually gives vague answeres to specific questions and has a Paul Bunyan sized axe to grind with the Cubs, right?

 

And he is negative about everything so considering he is commenting about the Cubs has a better than average chance of being right even if he has no clue what he is talking about.

 

Does Stoney speak different on the radio than he does for say his ESPN games? I watched an ESPN game last year and he had nothing but positive things to say about the Cubs -- AND they weren't even playing in the game. There is no doubt in my mind that Stoney is one of the biggest Cubs homers around and it is pretty pathetic that both sides can't let it drop. The Cubs do themselves no good by trying running out of town an analyst who was simply frustrated with a bad team and spoke his mind on the air.

 

There also seems to be a pattern of publicly disgracing anyone who disagrees with them or whom they don't like. My guess is that once Walker is traded we will hear every negative thing that he has done since donning a Cubs uniform. Maybe they even have video surviellance of him leaving a game early, etc.

 

Oh, do not get me wrong. The Cubs have become a PR joke, with the way they tend to handle news and react to things.

 

To answer your question about Stone, he is on WSCR about 3-4 times a week, and is generally critical, snide, and smart alecked about it. I can understand the critical, but it's in the tone of his delivery that smacks of sour grapes and immaturity. Maybe he's playing to his audience/host, since they all tend to be pretty negative about the Cubs. The other thing I don't like is that he typically doesn't offer much insight when he answeres a question.

[CUBZ99]

Oh, do not get me wrong. The Cubs have become a PR joke, with the way they tend to handle news and react to things.

 

To answer your question about Stone, he is on WSCR about 3-4 times a week, and is generally critical, snide, and smart alecked about it. I can understand the critical, but it's in the tone of his delivery that smacks of sour grapes and immaturity. Maybe he's playing to his audience/host, since they all tend to be pretty negative about the Cubs. The other thing I don't like is that he typically doesn't offer much insight when he answeres a question.

 

Sad to hear that. That is a side of Stone that I don't see/hear. So I will have to take yours and others posters word on it.

[MeatampPotatoesMan]

Oh, do not get me wrong. The Cubs have become a PR joke, with the way they tend to handle news and react to things.

 

To answer your question about Stone, he is on WSCR about 3-4 times a week, and is generally critical, snide, and smart alecked about it. I can understand the critical, but it's in the tone of his delivery that smacks of sour grapes and immaturity. Maybe he's playing to his audience/host, since they all tend to be pretty negative about the Cubs. The other thing I don't like is that he typically doesn't offer much insight when he answeres a question.

 

Sad to hear that. That is a side of Stone that I don't see/hear. So I will have to take yours and others posters word on it.

 

Here's some links to audio clips.

 

http://www.670thescore.com/audibles/