sullivan on walker & jones

[abuck1220]

some interesting quotes...the convention should be quite the show...

 

"Right now we have three second basemen," he said. "And if that's the way we go to camp, it's up to the three of them to compete for playing time."

 

Carlin said Hendry told him when Walker's $2.5 million option was picked up in early December the Cubs would not have exercised the option if they didn't want him as a starter.

 

glad to see the media continuing to criticize the cubs' offseason...

 

Walker's .305 batting average and .355 on-base percentage in 2005 were superior to the stats compiled by Perez (.274 average, .298 OBP) and Hairston (.261, .336).

 

Jones' signing was panned in Chicago, mostly because of his declining numbers the last two seasons—.254 in '04 and .249 in '05. Hendry said Jones' .279 career average, and his average of 23 home runs per season since 2002, are more telling numbers.

 

"I certainly look at that rather than the last line on his bubble-gum card," Hendry said.

 

hendry's really going to be hearing it if the cubs don't get off to a good start...

[Butterscup1679666578]

Oh Hendry, if only you realized that its more than just BA and HRs that determine whether a player is good or not.

[Drew Doughty]

So if a guy bats .350 his first year, then declined to .300, then even further to .250, Hendry would sign him to an 8 year deal because he has a .300 career average.

[Chris]

One word: Wow.

[Mark_R]

some interesting quotes...the convention should be quite the show...

 

I really wish I could be there for that Q&A with management again. I get annoyed greatly by the ass kissing questions. Glad that last year that was kept to a minimum.

 

Hope the grill session is on.

[frostwyrm]

If Hendry is going to evaluate Jones on his career numbers the ones he should pay the most attention to are those vs. LHP. Jones should not get another at bat vs. a lefty for the remainder of his career.

[USSoccer]

If Hendry is going to evaluate Jones on his career numbers the ones he should pay the most attention to are those vs. LHP. Jones should not get another at bat vs. a lefty for the remainder of his career.

 

I think Hendry's appreciation for career stats extend to the ones he can use to justify signings, not maximize results on the team.

[TheDude]

I'm not going to defend the Jones signing because I don't like it anymore than the next person. But Hendry is correct in saying that 2 off years doesn't define a player if the player is only 30 years old. At 34, maybe.

 

On the other hand, given the off years, the three year contract was a mistake.

[Balsa]

I'm not going to defend the Jones signing because I don't like it anymore than the next person. But Hendry is correct in saying that 2 off years doesn't define a player if the player is only 30 years old. At 34, maybe.

 

On the other hand, given the off years, the three year contract was a mistake.

 

Does anyone expect him to be around for the full three years though?

[Wheelimus]

Depends on if his hits .300 with 25 to 30 homers :lol:

[E.J.]

some interesting quotes...the convention should be quite the show...

 

I really wish I could be there for that Q&A with management again. I get annoyed greatly by the ass kissing questions. Glad that last year that was kept to a minimum.

 

Hope the grill session is on.

 

Didn't Cubs.com put up the Q & A from last year's convention on their website a while after the convention? I remember listening to it last year online. Hopefully it will be the same this year. Also, NSBB members were very good about giving us the scoop last year. Hopefully the people going will let us know how bad Hendry gets grilled.

[Tim]

I'm not going to defend the Jones signing because I don't like it anymore than the next person. But Hendry is correct in saying that 2 off years doesn't define a player if the player is only 30 years old. At 34, maybe.

 

On the other hand, given the off years, the three year contract was a mistake.

So you're saying we should have given Corey another chance, then.

[Careless]

I'm not going to defend the Jones signing because I don't like it anymore than the next person. But Hendry is correct in saying that 2 off years doesn't define a player if the player is only 30 years old. At 34, maybe.

 

On the other hand, given the off years, the three year contract was a mistake.

 

Does anyone expect him to be around for the full three years though?

Does it matter? if he's bad we'll be paying to get him away from the team. No one's gonna give value for a guy who just put up 4 straight bad seasons

[Gunned]

I'm not going to defend the Jones signing because I don't like it anymore than the next person. But Hendry is correct in saying that 2 off years doesn't define a player if the player is only 30 years old. At 34, maybe.

 

On the other hand, given the off years, the three year contract was a mistake.

So you're saying we should have given Corey another chance, then.

 

No, because Corey was "off" for five of his six seasons in the major leagues.

[Chris]

I'm not going to defend the Jones signing because I don't like it anymore than the next person. But Hendry is correct in saying that 2 off years doesn't define a player if the player is only 30 years old. At 34, maybe.

 

On the other hand, given the off years, the three year contract was a mistake.

So you're saying we should have given Corey another chance, then.

 

No, because Corey was "off" for five of his six seasons in the major leagues.

 

Corey played in all of 11 games in 2000 following a SL Championship in West Tennessee. You call 11 games a "season"?

[Gunned]

I'm not going to defend the Jones signing because I don't like it anymore than the next person. But Hendry is correct in saying that 2 off years doesn't define a player if the player is only 30 years old. At 34, maybe.

 

On the other hand, given the off years, the three year contract was a mistake.

So you're saying we should have given Corey another chance, then.

 

No, because Corey was "off" for five of his six seasons in the major leagues.

 

Corey played in all of 11 games in 2000 following a SL Championship in West Tennessee. You call 11 games a "season"?

 

OK. Fine. He was "off" for four of his five years in the big leagues.

[Chris]

I'm not going to defend the Jones signing because I don't like it anymore than the next person. But Hendry is correct in saying that 2 off years doesn't define a player if the player is only 30 years old. At 34, maybe.

 

On the other hand, given the off years, the three year contract was a mistake.

So you're saying we should have given Corey another chance, then.

 

No, because Corey was "off" for five of his six seasons in the major leagues.

 

Corey played in all of 11 games in 2000 following a SL Championship in West Tennessee. You call 11 games a "season"?

 

OK. Fine. He was "off" for four of his five years in the big leagues.

 

Not to get too technical, but he only had 131 ABs in '01.

[Transmogrified Tiger]

I'm not going to defend the Jones signing because I don't like it anymore than the next person. But Hendry is correct in saying that 2 off years doesn't define a player if the player is only 30 years old. At 34, maybe.

 

On the other hand, given the off years, the three year contract was a mistake.

So you're saying we should have given Corey another chance, then.

 

No, because Corey was "off" for five of his six seasons in the major leagues.

 

Corey played in all of 11 games in 2000 following a SL Championship in West Tennessee. You call 11 games a "season"?

 

OK. Fine. He was "off" for four of his five years in the big leagues.

 

Not to get too technical, but he only had 131 ABs in '01.

 

And put up league average or better numbers in two of the 4 remaining seasons. And there's the whole entering his prime years while Jones is leaving his, cheaper in money and years, not giving up draft picks, etc.

[CubfaninCA]

I'm not going to defend the Jones signing because I don't like it anymore than the next person. But Hendry is correct in saying that 2 off years doesn't define a player if the player is only 30 years old. At 34, maybe.

 

On the other hand, given the off years, the three year contract was a mistake.

So you're saying we should have given Corey another chance, then.

 

Corey had more than an off year. Jock's ops was much better than .602.

[CUBZ99]

I'm not going to defend the Jones signing because I don't like it anymore than the next person. But Hendry is correct in saying that 2 off years doesn't define a player if the player is only 30 years old. At 34, maybe.

 

On the other hand, given the off years, the three year contract was a mistake.

So you're saying we should have given Corey another chance, then.

 

No, because Corey was "off" for five of his six seasons in the major leagues.

 

Corey played in all of 11 games in 2000 following a SL Championship in West Tennessee. You call 11 games a "season"?

 

OK. Fine. He was "off" for four of his five years in the big leagues.

 

Not to get too technical, but he only had 131 ABs in '01.

 

And put up league average or better numbers in two of the 4 remaining seasons. And there's the whole entering his prime years while Jones is leaving his, cheaper in money and years, not giving up draft picks, etc.

 

What qualifies as league average? Average starting OF, Avg starting position player, Avg. player, including pitchers and bench players?

[Transmogrified Tiger]

Average for a CF.