A Brand New Cubs Rumor from My West Coast Source

[CubfaninCA]

Players w/ crappy attitudes affect team morale. Those who have been in the workforce for some time can surely agree. Not every GM in baseball is a moron.

 

The improved morale really helped results form 2004 to 2005. If Walker hurt the team's morale, and thus hurt their chances, a less stupid GM would have chosen to stay with that gutty team guy Grudz when he had the chance instead of resigning Walker.

 

Yep, should have kept Grudz. Too bad Hendry went the Moneyball route. :(

 

yep, grudz really eclipsed walker with his offensive prowess.

 

Well Grudz had 156 hits & 26 walks last year compared to Walker's 121 & 31, and superior defense should count for something.

[Ding Dong Johnson]

Players w/ crappy attitudes affect team morale. Those who have been in the workforce for some time can surely agree. Not every GM in baseball is a moron.

 

The improved morale really helped results form 2004 to 2005. If Walker hurt the team's morale, and thus hurt their chances, a less stupid GM would have chosen to stay with that gutty team guy Grudz when he had the chance instead of resigning Walker.

 

Yep, should have kept Grudz. Too bad Hendry went the Moneyball route. :(

 

yep, grudz really eclipsed walker with his offensive prowess.

 

Well Grudz had 156 hits & 26 walks last year compared to Walker's 121 & 31, and superior defense should count for something.

 

Grudz also played in 27 more games. Walker was far superior offensively last season.

[brfahey]

Players w/ crappy attitudes affect team morale. Those who have been in the workforce for some time can surely agree. Not every GM in baseball is a moron.

 

The improved morale really helped results form 2004 to 2005. If Walker hurt the team's morale, and thus hurt their chances, a less stupid GM would have chosen to stay with that gutty team guy Grudz when he had the chance instead of resigning Walker.

 

Yep, should have kept Grudz. Too bad Hendry went the Moneyball route. :(

 

yep, grudz really eclipsed walker with his offensive prowess.

 

Well Grudz had 156 hits & 26 walks last year compared to Walker's 121 & 31, and superior defense should count for something.

 

Grudz also played in 27 more games. Walker was far superior offensively last season.

 

how?

[Transmogrified Tiger]

Players w/ crappy attitudes affect team morale. Those who have been in the workforce for some time can surely agree. Not every GM in baseball is a moron.

 

The improved morale really helped results form 2004 to 2005. If Walker hurt the team's morale, and thus hurt their chances, a less stupid GM would have chosen to stay with that gutty team guy Grudz when he had the chance instead of resigning Walker.

 

Yep, should have kept Grudz. Too bad Hendry went the Moneyball route. :(

 

Hendry, Moneyball? I'm sure he never read it, and I know he's never filled his roster that way.

He missed the bible of baseball? Hard to believe.

 

Something compels me to believe you've never read Moneyball, and anyone who falls on either "side" of the argument Moneyball seemingly created will tell you it is not the "bible of baseball".

[CubfaninCA]

Players w/ crappy attitudes affect team morale. Those who have been in the workforce for some time can surely agree. Not every GM in baseball is a moron.

 

The improved morale really helped results form 2004 to 2005. If Walker hurt the team's morale, and thus hurt their chances, a less stupid GM would have chosen to stay with that gutty team guy Grudz when he had the chance instead of resigning Walker.

 

Yep, should have kept Grudz. Too bad Hendry went the Moneyball route. :(

 

yep, grudz really eclipsed walker with his offensive prowess.

 

Well Grudz had 156 hits & 26 walks last year compared to Walker's 121 & 31, and superior defense should count for something.

 

Grudz also played in 27 more games. Walker was far superior offensively last season.

 

I know. He would have kept Neifi off the field.

[GaborBako]

I think the biggest downside is that Dusty will play Wilson AND Jock, not one or the other putting Murton on the bench.

[treebird]

so many people are just openly inflammatory about this anti-moneyball stuff that threads like this are impossible to read.

[Transmogrified Tiger]

Players w/ crappy attitudes affect team morale. Those who have been in the workforce for some time can surely agree. Not every GM in baseball is a moron.

 

The improved morale really helped results form 2004 to 2005. If Walker hurt the team's morale, and thus hurt their chances, a less stupid GM would have chosen to stay with that gutty team guy Grudz when he had the chance instead of resigning Walker.

 

Yep, should have kept Grudz. Too bad Hendry went the Moneyball route. :(

 

yep, grudz really eclipsed walker with his offensive prowess.

 

Well Grudz had 156 hits & 26 walks last year compared to Walker's 121 & 31, and superior defense should count for something.

 

Grudz also played in 27 more games. Walker was far superior offensively last season.

 

I know. He would have kept Neifi off the field.

 

That blasted Walker, getting leg-whipped and missing time. He and Prior definitely deserve blame for missing time.

[treebird]

i'd also like to add that wilson is yet another answer to the question "what could the cubs have done besides sign jacque jones?"

[CubfaninCA]

Players w/ crappy attitudes affect team morale. Those who have been in the workforce for some time can surely agree. Not every GM in baseball is a moron.

 

The improved morale really helped results form 2004 to 2005. If Walker hurt the team's morale, and thus hurt their chances, a less stupid GM would have chosen to stay with that gutty team guy Grudz when he had the chance instead of resigning Walker.

 

Yep, should have kept Grudz. Too bad Hendry went the Moneyball route. :(

 

yep, grudz really eclipsed walker with his offensive prowess.

 

Well Grudz had 156 hits & 26 walks last year compared to Walker's 121 & 31, and superior defense should count for something.

 

Grudz also played in 27 more games. Walker was far superior offensively last season.

 

I know. He would have kept Neifi off the field.

 

That blasted Walker, getting leg-whipped and missing time. He and Prior definitely deserve blame for missing time.

 

Would Grudz have got hurt in a similar situation??

[UK1679666180]

Would Grudz have got hurt in a similar situation??

 

Sure, unless he spends his spare time as Stretch Armstrong. Knees don't that bend that way and Walker was not out of position when he rec'd the feed at 2B.

 

Plus, I vividly remember Grudzielanek having two injury plagued seasons with the Cubs in similar flukish type manners.

 

Doesn't equate to the fact he's injury prone or what not, just bad luck that can reverse as Mark was healthy last year.

[fromthestretch]

That blasted Walker, getting leg-whipped and missing time. He and Prior definitely deserve blame for missing time.

 

Would Grudz have got hurt in a similar situation??

 

Carlos Lee weighs 230+ pounds. I think most middle infielders in the league would have had a DL visit after getting run over by him.

[CubfaninCA]

Would Grudz have got hurt in a similar situation??

 

Sure, unless he spends his spare time as Stretch Armstrong. Knees don't that bend that way and Walker was not out of position when he rec'd the feed at 2B.

 

Plus, I vividly remember Grudzielanek having two injury plagued seasons with the Cubs in similar flukish type manners.

 

Doesn't equate to the fact he's injury prone or what not, just bad luck that can reverse as Mark was healthy last year.

 

Well, I think we can agree that Grudz is better built than Walker, but perhaps you're right. However, I still stand by the Cubs being better off w/ Grudz.

[fromthestretch]

Would Grudz have got hurt in a similar situation??

 

Sure, unless he spends his spare time as Stretch Armstrong. Knees don't that bend that way and Walker was not out of position when he rec'd the feed at 2B.

 

Plus, I vividly remember Grudzielanek having two injury plagued seasons with the Cubs in similar flukish type manners.

 

Doesn't equate to the fact he's injury prone or what not, just bad luck that can reverse as Mark was healthy last year.

 

Well, I think we can agree that Grudz is better built than Walker, but perhaps you're right. However, I still stand by the Cubs being better off w/ Grudz.

 

Grudz is one inch taller and five pounds heavier, according to their ESPN profiles, and it's not like either is completely out of shape. Lee would have hurt either of them.

[goonys evil twin]

Well, I think we can agree that Grudz is better built than Walker, but perhaps you're right. However, I still stand by the Cubs being better off w/ Grudz.

 

Then why didn't Hendry keep him and not the troublemaker?

[UK1679666180]

They sacrificed offense for defense with picking Walker over Grudz. You can flip a coin and get the same scenario as far as heads or tails as which will have the better overall year.

 

I'd prefer Walker, but they're both role players. Walker took a nose defensively in a similar manner as to why Boston didn't bring him back aftre '03 and Grudzielanek took a nose dive offensively last year compared to '03 and '04.

[oldcubsfan]

I think they kept him because of the LH bat. That's the only reason I can think of.

[CubfaninCA]

Well, I think we can agree that Grudz is better built than Walker, but perhaps you're right. However, I still stand by the Cubs being better off w/ Grudz.

 

Then why didn't Hendry keep him and not the troublemaker?

 

Hendry f'd up. Must have got too fascinated w/ the walk or something.

[CubfaninCA]

I think they kept him because of the LH bat. That's the only reason I can think of.

 

Yep, another big reason.

[fromthestretch]

I think they kept him because of the LH bat. That's the only reason I can think of.

 

Yeah, I'm sure it had nothing to do with the fact that he's a better offensive player, giving them more production for less money.

[goonys evil twin]

Well, I think we can agree that Grudz is better built than Walker, but perhaps you're right. However, I still stand by the Cubs being better off w/ Grudz.

 

Then why didn't Hendry keep him and not the troublemaker?

 

Hendry f'd up. Must have got too fascinated w/ the walk or something.

 

Yeah, as if that's anywhere close to reality.

[CubfaninCA]

Well, I think we can agree that Grudz is better built than Walker, but perhaps you're right. However, I still stand by the Cubs being better off w/ Grudz.

 

Then why didn't Hendry keep him and not the troublemaker?

 

Hendry f'd up. Must have got too fascinated w/ the walk or something.

 

Yeah, as if that's anywhere close to reality.

 

Do you think Hendry values obp whatsoever??

[sonicdethmonkey0]

Do you think Hendry values obp whatsoever??

 

jacque jones.

[goonys evil twin]

Well, I think we can agree that Grudz is better built than Walker, but perhaps you're right. However, I still stand by the Cubs being better off w/ Grudz.

 

Then why didn't Hendry keep him and not the troublemaker?

 

Hendry f'd up. Must have got too fascinated w/ the walk or something.

 

Yeah, as if that's anywhere close to reality.

 

Do you think Hendry values obp whatsoever??

 

Yes, but only as it pertains to average. I don't think he values the walk nearly as much as he should. He's never been shy to employ pitchers who give them up, and he's never shown a willingness to value a player's ability to draw a walk as part of his game (with the one exception of Mark Bellhorn, who he quickly soured on).

 

He'd like a .300 average and .340 OBP over a .275 average and .365 OBP.

[UK1679666180]

Do you think Hendry values obp whatsoever??

He does, not as much as some (including myself) would like.

 

I think he values it more through a batter's ability/tools to get a hit rather than to draw a walk.