Outback Bowl (Iowa vs. Florida)

[Ding Dong Johnson]

Time for some Hawkeye lovin' (hopefully).

 

Location: Tampa, FL.

 

Last matchup between the teams:

January 1, 2004, Outback Bowl

Iowa 37

Florida 17

[Rusch33]

Iowa in a squeeker.

[Ding Dong Johnson]

Wow, 4 people are delusional... :lol:

 

Edit: 12 people now foolish enough to think Florida has a shot. Shame on you...

[Uber]

Hawks by 3. Book it.

[TripJ]

FIRE IT UP, HAAAKS!!!

 

Is Ferentz mini too?

 

No? Haaks by chirteen.

[ConstableRabbit]

Florida by three

 

 

 

 

 

 

(OK, sour grapes, Iowa got a better bowl than us because of their fanbase)

[TripJ]

Florida by three

 

 

 

 

 

 

(OK, sour grapes, Iowa got a better bowl than us because of their fanbase)

 

There's some truth to that, no doubt about it. But looking at Iowa's last four games (including the losses to Michigan and Northwestern) they completely outplayed their oppposition. Even though Michigan and NW beat us fair and square, it took a couple of lucky bounces to go their way.

 

Then they just destroyed Wisconsin in Madison and did the same to Minny in Iowa City. I think the bowls also looked at how we finished in relation to the teams that beat us. We finished stronger than NW and Michigan and got the nod for that reason. I don't think it's fair to say that it was solely fanbase (though I'd be naive and foolish to say it didn't play a significant role).

[Guancous]

I have nothing to say but GO HAWKS! I'm not a gambler but Iowa usually covers the spread.

[ConstableRabbit]

Florida by three

 

 

 

 

 

 

(OK, sour grapes, Iowa got a better bowl than us because of their fanbase)

 

There's some truth to that, no doubt about it. But looking at Iowa's last four games (including the losses to Michigan and Northwestern) they completely outplayed their oppposition. Even though Michigan and NW beat us fair and square, it took a couple of lucky bounces to go their way.

 

Then they just destroyed Wisconsin in Madison and did the same to Minny in Iowa City. I think the bowls also looked at how we finished in relation to the teams that beat us. We finished stronger than NW and Michigan and got the nod for that reason. I don't think it's fair to say that it was solely fanbase (though I'd be naive and foolish to say it didn't play a significant role).

 

By those standards, you could say that Penn St. got some luck in beating NU then.. I mean, I don't know that you can say really use that in sports.. you know what I mean?

 

NU also beat Wisconsin and destroyed Michigan St. in East Lansing when they were both very strong teams. And considering that Iowa and NU had the same record, and NU beat Iowa, I have to think that 90% of the decision was bowl-revenue related: Iowa had already been to the Sun Bowl and they have a bigger fanbase for the bigger bowl.

[TripJ]

Florida by three

 

 

 

 

 

 

(OK, sour grapes, Iowa got a better bowl than us because of their fanbase)

 

There's some truth to that, no doubt about it. But looking at Iowa's last four games (including the losses to Michigan and Northwestern) they completely outplayed their oppposition. Even though Michigan and NW beat us fair and square, it took a couple of lucky bounces to go their way.

 

Then they just destroyed Wisconsin in Madison and did the same to Minny in Iowa City. I think the bowls also looked at how we finished in relation to the teams that beat us. We finished stronger than NW and Michigan and got the nod for that reason. I don't think it's fair to say that it was solely fanbase (though I'd be naive and foolish to say it didn't play a significant role).

 

By those standards, you could say that Penn St. got some luck in beating NU then.. I mean, I don't know that you can say really use that in sports.. you know what I mean?

 

NU also beat Wisconsin and destroyed Michigan St. in East Lansing when they were both very strong teams. And considering that Iowa and NU had the same record, and NU beat Iowa, I have to think that 90% of the decision was bowl-revenue related: Iowa had already been to the Sun Bowl and they have a bigger fanbase for the bigger bowl.

 

Like I said, I know the fanbase played a large role. I'd be a fool if I thought otherwise.

 

In the end, the bowls are all about the almighty dollar. I was at the NW game in Evanston along with several thousand of my Iowa brethren. There *may* have been more of us there than there were Wildcats fans. If you are a bowl committee and you see that, all else being equal, who do you take, you know? I don't think Iowa was MORE deserving, just that we weren't UNdeserving.

 

Anyway, when are the Notre Dame fans coming in to hijack this thread?

[ConstableRabbit]

Florida by three

 

 

 

 

 

 

(OK, sour grapes, Iowa got a better bowl than us because of their fanbase)

 

There's some truth to that, no doubt about it. But looking at Iowa's last four games (including the losses to Michigan and Northwestern) they completely outplayed their oppposition. Even though Michigan and NW beat us fair and square, it took a couple of lucky bounces to go their way.

 

Then they just destroyed Wisconsin in Madison and did the same to Minny in Iowa City. I think the bowls also looked at how we finished in relation to the teams that beat us. We finished stronger than NW and Michigan and got the nod for that reason. I don't think it's fair to say that it was solely fanbase (though I'd be naive and foolish to say it didn't play a significant role).

 

By those standards, you could say that Penn St. got some luck in beating NU then.. I mean, I don't know that you can say really use that in sports.. you know what I mean?

 

NU also beat Wisconsin and destroyed Michigan St. in East Lansing when they were both very strong teams. And considering that Iowa and NU had the same record, and NU beat Iowa, I have to think that 90% of the decision was bowl-revenue related: Iowa had already been to the Sun Bowl and they have a bigger fanbase for the bigger bowl.

 

Like I said, I know the fanbase played a large role. I'd be a fool if I thought otherwise.

 

In the end, the bowls are all about the almighty dollar. I was at the NW game in Evanston along with several thousand of my Iowa brethren. There *may* have been more of us there than there were Wildcats fans. If you are a bowl committee and you see that, all else being equal, who do you take, you know? I don't think Iowa was MORE deserving, just that we weren't UNdeserving.

 

Anyway, when are the Notre Dame fans coming in to hijack this thread?

 

I hope you weren't on the NU side near the South endzone. I was relentless after we took the lead... :oops:

 

I actually just talked to a guy on the team while walking thru Evanston to get lunch... unless he was just wearing Vitalis Sunbowl NU gear to fool people.

 

ND IS SO MUCH BETTER THAN EVERYONE OMG WTF

[TripJ]

I hope you weren't on the NU side near the South endzone. I was relentless after we took the lead... :oops:

 

I actually just talked to a guy on the team while walking thru Evanston to get lunch... unless he was just wearing Vitalis Sunbowl NU gear to fool people.

 

ND IS SO MUCH BETTER THAN EVERYONE OMG WTF

 

I was actually in the Iowa section, if there actually was one. Seemed like we were everywhere.

 

As for getting a little worked up after the lead, you were entitled. It was a great finish, well if you were a 'Cats fan.

 

You should've seen me after Tate to Holloway last year in the Cap One.

[St.Paul Cub]

Go Hawks!

[packiowa]

Florida by three

 

 

 

 

 

 

(OK, sour grapes, Iowa got a better bowl than us because of their fanbase)

 

There's some truth to that, no doubt about it. But looking at Iowa's last four games (including the losses to Michigan and Northwestern) they completely outplayed their oppposition. Even though Michigan and NW beat us fair and square, it took a couple of lucky bounces to go their way.

 

Then they just destroyed Wisconsin in Madison and did the same to Minny in Iowa City. I think the bowls also looked at how we finished in relation to the teams that beat us. We finished stronger than NW and Michigan and got the nod for that reason. I don't think it's fair to say that it was solely fanbase (though I'd be naive and foolish to say it didn't play a significant role).

 

By those standards, you could say that Penn St. got some luck in beating NU then.. I mean, I don't know that you can say really use that in sports.. you know what I mean?

 

NU also beat Wisconsin and destroyed Michigan St. in East Lansing when they were both very strong teams. And considering that Iowa and NU had the same record, and NU beat Iowa, I have to think that 90% of the decision was bowl-revenue related: Iowa had already been to the Sun Bowl and they have a bigger fanbase for the bigger bowl.

 

Sorry to backtrack the thread, but were Wisconsin and Michigan State ever very good teams. They were well respected, but I'm not sure either were ever quality, balanced squads.

 

I agree that the end of season made a huge difference. NOrthwestern's victories early in the season against Wisc and MS were nice, but hte Wisc game was an ugly, close game. In our last two games we destroyed Wisconsin and Minnesota. Sure we lost to NW three weeks earlier, but NW was beaten for 3-and a half quarters and needed to convert an onside kick at home to take the lead for the first time(?). NW gets the win, but bragging rights (we beat U, we should have a better bowl) are pretty scarce.

 

Just my 2 cents

[Andy]

Michigan State played 2 good games this year, against ND and Michigan. Other than that, they really weren't any better than Purdue.