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He's 2 years younger than Abreu and plays a more important postion IMO and does it well. Why isn't he worth 3 or 4 prospects?

 

Because he isn't really that great of an offensive player. We got slightly less production from Walker last year that we would probably get from Tejada this year. Just because he plays a positon were offense is scarce doesn't mean we should overpay for him, especially if it is possible to upgrade more cheaply at another position.

 

What were his numbers last year? No way is he comparable to Walker.

 

Tejada last year: 304/.349/.515/.864

Walker last year: .305/.355/.474/.829

 

Try RBI's and HR's. Selective use of numbers is meaningless. NO ONE in baseball would try to equate Todd Walker being the equal to Tejada.

 

i can guarantee that if walker played a full season batting third he would have 100 rbis and 20 home runs. home runs aren't everything, their SLG should tell you that

 

Try playing Walker full time against lefty pitching and check out his numbers...

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He's 2 years younger than Abreu and plays a more important postion IMO and does it well. Why isn't he worth 3 or 4 prospects?

 

Because he isn't really that great of an offensive player. We got slightly less production from Walker last year that we would probably get from Tejada this year. Just because he plays a positon were offense is scarce doesn't mean we should overpay for him, especially if it is possible to upgrade more cheaply at another position.

 

What were his numbers last year? No way is he comparable to Walker.

 

Tejada last year: 304/.349/.515/.864

Walker last year: .305/.355/.474/.829

 

Try RBI's and HR's. Selective use of numbers is meaningless. NO ONE in baseball would try to equate Todd Walker being the equal to Tejada.

 

Don't you think measuring by HR's and RBI's is being selective too? Besides, trying to measure a player with those stats doesn't give you the whole picture. Yes, Miguel hits more homeruns, but this is partly becuase he has many more at bats than Walker. Walker is close to being as productive as Tejada.

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He's 2 years younger than Abreu and plays a more important postion IMO and does it well. Why isn't he worth 3 or 4 prospects?

 

Because he isn't really that great of an offensive player. We got slightly less production from Walker last year that we would probably get from Tejada this year. Just because he plays a positon were offense is scarce doesn't mean we should overpay for him, especially if it is possible to upgrade more cheaply at another position.

 

What were his numbers last year? No way is he comparable to Walker.

 

Tejada last year: 304/.349/.515/.864

Walker last year: .305/.355/.474/.829

 

Try RBI's and HR's. Selective use of numbers is meaningless. NO ONE in baseball would try to equate Todd Walker being the equal to Tejada.

 

i can guarantee that if walker played a full season batting third he would have 100 rbis and 20 home runs. home runs aren't everything, their SLG should tell you that

No it doesn't show me that. History shows that he hasn't. Projecting numbers is a wonderful fantasy, but history shows he hasn't done that and won't.
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He's 2 years younger than Abreu and plays a more important postion IMO and does it well. Why isn't he worth 3 or 4 prospects?

 

Because he isn't really that great of an offensive player. We got slightly less production from Walker last year that we would probably get from Tejada this year. Just because he plays a positon were offense is scarce doesn't mean we should overpay for him, especially if it is possible to upgrade more cheaply at another position.

 

What were his numbers last year? No way is he comparable to Walker.

 

Tejada last year: 304/.349/.515/.864

Walker last year: .305/.355/.474/.829

 

Try RBI's and HR's. Selective use of numbers is meaningless. NO ONE in baseball would try to equate Todd Walker being the equal to Tejada.

 

i can guarantee that if walker played a full season batting third he would have 100 rbis and 20 home runs. home runs aren't everything, their SLG should tell you that

No it doesn't show me that. History shows that he hasn't. Projecting numbers is a wonderful fantasy, but history shows he hasn't done that and won't.

 

History shows you that they are separated by .26 in career OPS. I really don't see what else you need.

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Todd Walker being a better ballplayer than Tejada is just plain laughable.

 

Has anyone said this? I know that I've said Walker is close to being as good as Tejada, but I never said he was better, and I don't think anyone else has.

 

EDIT: Wow, I must be about the 50th consecutive person to say that.

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He's 2 years younger than Abreu and plays a more important postion IMO and does it well. Why isn't he worth 3 or 4 prospects?

 

Because he isn't really that great of an offensive player. We got slightly less production from Walker last year that we would probably get from Tejada this year. Just because he plays a positon were offense is scarce doesn't mean we should overpay for him, especially if it is possible to upgrade more cheaply at another position.

 

What were his numbers last year? No way is he comparable to Walker.

 

Tejada last year: 304/.349/.515/.864

Walker last year: .305/.355/.474/.829

 

Try RBI's and HR's. Selective use of numbers is meaningless. NO ONE in baseball would try to equate Todd Walker being the equal to Tejada.

 

i can guarantee that if walker played a full season batting third he would have 100 rbis and 20 home runs. home runs aren't everything, their SLG should tell you that

 

Why is it that Walker never hits 3rd then if he is that good? Is every manager a moron in MLB? Why does Walker get bounced around so much?

 

People we are going to have to agree to disagree on this because no way is Walker in Tejada class in any way.

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He's 2 years younger than Abreu and plays a more important postion IMO and does it well. Why isn't he worth 3 or 4 prospects?

 

Because he isn't really that great of an offensive player. We got slightly less production from Walker last year that we would probably get from Tejada this year. Just because he plays a positon were offense is scarce doesn't mean we should overpay for him, especially if it is possible to upgrade more cheaply at another position.

 

What were his numbers last year? No way is he comparable to Walker.

 

Tejada last year: 304/.349/.515/.864

Walker last year: .305/.355/.474/.829

 

Try RBI's and HR's. Selective use of numbers is meaningless. NO ONE in baseball would try to equate Todd Walker being the equal to Tejada.

 

i can guarantee that if walker played a full season batting third he would have 100 rbis and 20 home runs. home runs aren't everything, their SLG should tell you that

No it doesn't show me that. History shows that he hasn't. Projecting numbers is a wonderful fantasy, but history shows he hasn't done that and won't.

 

History shows you that they are separated by .26 in career OPS. I really don't see what else you need.

 

Walker in a full season batting against lefty pitching.

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Are you reading this thread at all?

 

That's the problem with you statheads. You get so caught up reading words that you never bother to look at the posters.

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Todd Walker being a better ballplayer than Tejada is just plain laughable.

 

Has anyone said this? I know that I've said Walker is close to being as good as Tejada, but I never said he was better, and I don't think anyone else has.

Think Baltimore would take him for Tejada? Throw in anyone else also? I know what the answer from Baltimore would be-HAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
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Walker in a full season batting against lefty pitching.

 

A quick glance at his stats doesn't seem to indicate a consistant history of platooning.

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Todd Walker being a better ballplayer than Tejada is just plain laughable.

 

Are you reading this thread at all?

 

YOU USED SELECTIVE STATS SO HE'S USING SELECTIVE READING

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Todd Walker being a better ballplayer than Tejada is just plain laughable.

 

Has anyone said this? I know that I've said Walker is close to being as good as Tejada, but I never said he was better, and I don't think anyone else has.

Think Baltimore would take him for Tejada? Throw in anyone else also? I know what the answer from Baltimore would be-HAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

 

OK, stop trolling

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He's 2 years younger than Abreu and plays a more important postion IMO and does it well. Why isn't he worth 3 or 4 prospects?

 

Because he isn't really that great of an offensive player. We got slightly less production from Walker last year that we would probably get from Tejada this year. Just because he plays a positon were offense is scarce doesn't mean we should overpay for him, especially if it is possible to upgrade more cheaply at another position.

 

What were his numbers last year? No way is he comparable to Walker.

 

Tejada last year: 304/.349/.515/.864

Walker last year: .305/.355/.474/.829

 

Try RBI's and HR's. Selective use of numbers is meaningless. NO ONE in baseball would try to equate Todd Walker being the equal to Tejada.

 

i can guarantee that if walker played a full season batting third he would have 100 rbis and 20 home runs. home runs aren't everything, their SLG should tell you that

 

Why is it that Walker never hits 3rd then if he is that good? Is every manager a moron in MLB? Why does Walker get bounced around so much?

 

People we are going to have to agree to disagree on this because no way is Walker in Tejada class in any way.

 

this is not about walker. we're simply trying to show that giving what has been suggested in this thread for tejada would not be a wise move.

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Todd Walker being a better ballplayer than Tejada is just plain laughable.

 

Has anyone said this? I know that I've said Walker is close to being as good as Tejada, but I never said he was better, and I don't think anyone else has.

Think Baltimore would take him for Tejada? Throw in anyone else also? I know what the answer from Baltimore would be-HAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

 

yes, they would laugh, because they have brian roberts. THIS ISN'T ABOUT WALKER.

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Walker in a full season batting against lefty pitching.

 

A quick glance at his stats doesn't seem to indicate a consistant history of platooning.

 

Could you provide details? Because it seemed like he sat a lot against leftys.

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Todd Walker being a better ballplayer than Tejada is just plain laughable.

 

Has anyone said this? I know that I've said Walker is close to being as good as Tejada, but I never said he was better, and I don't think anyone else has.

Think Baltimore would take him for Tejada? Throw in anyone else also? I know what the answer from Baltimore would be-HAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

 

It probably would, but that doesn't mean anything. You aren't even reading what I'm writing now, are you?

 

All I'm saying is that acquiring Tejada probably isn't the best way to use our prospects.

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He's 2 years younger than Abreu and plays a more important postion IMO and does it well. Why isn't he worth 3 or 4 prospects?

 

Because he isn't really that great of an offensive player. We got slightly less production from Walker last year that we would probably get from Tejada this year. Just because he plays a positon were offense is scarce doesn't mean we should overpay for him, especially if it is possible to upgrade more cheaply at another position.

 

What were his numbers last year? No way is he comparable to Walker.

 

Tejada last year: 304/.349/.515/.864

Walker last year: .305/.355/.474/.829

 

Try RBI's and HR's. Selective use of numbers is meaningless. NO ONE in baseball would try to equate Todd Walker being the equal to Tejada.

 

seriously...post of the day.

 

you say, 'try rbi's and hr's.' then the VERY NEXT SENTENCE you say selective use of numbers is meaningless. was it hard to type that w/ a straight face?

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He didn't consistently sit against lefties this year, about 25% of his ABs came against them, and he has several full seasons under his belt. ESPN has all the details I do.
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Todd Walker being a better ballplayer than Tejada is just plain laughable.

 

Are you reading this thread at all?

 

IMO he's in shock that Walker is even being compared to Tejada. Walkers a nice player and underappreciated but I have Tejada in the same class a Abreu and Dunn and Walker is far below that IMO. I see the numbers that have been thrown out there and having a 300/35 HR guy at SS is a luxury I would like the Cubs to have. We just differ on how we would make this team better in this case.

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IMO he's in shock that Walker is even being compared to Tejada. Walkers a nice player and underappreciated but I have Tejada in the same class a Abreu and Dunn and Walker is far below that IMO. I see the numbers that have been thrown out there and having a 300/35 HR guy at SS is a luxury I would like the Cubs to have. We just differ on how we would make this team better in this case.

 

Tejada isn't even close to that class.

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