Tejada wants to be traded

[CardsFanInChiTown]

I wonder what billiant poster thought of this a while back and was ridiculed and mocked in the senate!!! Mocked I say!

 

I would give the O's 5 young players and take a bad contract.

 

I doubt they would want to make a "rebuilding" type trade.

 

What do they possibly have to compete now with the Yankees, Red Sox and even Jays? This team needs to be rebuilt the right way and Tejada would give them a lot of bang for the buck.

 

I agree, I think they should rebuild however I don't think they see it that way.

[CuseCubFan69]

I would say

 

Hill, Pie, Williams, Cedeno as a first offer and see where to go from there.

 

No way. We'd cripple ourselves.

 

In what way? Cedeno isn't going to play SS and he doesn't have the bat for second IMO. Pierre is going to sign a 3 or 4 year deal with the Cubs so that gets rid of Pie. The pitchers would hurt but they might be gone for a Dunn or Abreu anyway so why not get a bat that covers a postion that most teams don't have one?

[sweetpeteman]

Unfortunantly, the Orioles have been smart and haven't taken on too many bad contracts. Miggy in fact has the largest, followed by Javy, both keepers for them.

[CuseCubFan69]

I wonder what billiant poster thought of this a while back and was ridiculed and mocked in the senate!!! Mocked I say!

 

I would give the O's 5 young players and take a bad contract.

 

I doubt they would want to make a "rebuilding" type trade.

 

What do they possibly have to compete now with the Yankees, Red Sox and even Jays? This team needs to be rebuilt the right way and Tejada would give them a lot of bang for the buck.

 

I agree, I think they should rebuild however I don't think they see it that way.

 

Then they will always be in the rear view mirror in that division. The Yankees need to get younger and Cashman has admitted that and the O's can get a huge jump on them in that regard. IMO....they better understand what this means because getting the Nomars and whatever other fadded vet they soon will be Detroit.

[sherwood921]

I know this is unlikely, but what if we traded Aram for him and resigned Nomar to play 3B?

[Balsa]

Wow. *jaw-dropping*

 

*openly salivating*

 

I know this is just gonna get my hopes up, chances are we'll never get him......but

 

can you imagine? Oh sweet Jesus that would be amazing.

[Ding Dong Johnson]

I know this is unlikely, but what if we traded Aram for him and resigned Nomar to play 3B?

 

Sure, if you don't mind waiting until May 1 for Nomar. We didn't offer arby.

[Transmogrified Tiger]

I would say

 

Hill, Pie, Williams, Cedeno as a first offer and see where to go from there.

 

No way. We'd cripple ourselves.

 

In what way? Cedeno isn't going to play SS and he doesn't have the bat for second IMO. Pierre is going to sign a 3 or 4 year deal with the Cubs so that gets rid of Pie. The pitchers would hurt but they might be gone for a Dunn or Abreu anyway so why not get a bat that covers a postion that most teams don't have one?

 

We still need a RF, and there aren't any good ones out there. What do we have left to trade at this point? After the Pierre trade and this, there's nothing even remotely close to Major League ready that's of any worth. It also rids you of any rotation depth you have. Now you're looking at Prior, Z, Wood, Maddux, Rusch, and Wellemeyer is the only starter that could step in unless you're JC. We've already dealt the top two AA arms, so Ryu, who isn't a great prospect is the best player that's closest to the bigs. Making that deal you settle SS, but you no longer have any trading chips to improve the team, and the only thing you get is a 30 year old average defensive SS that'll hit .350/.500 at 12.5 million per for 4 years. Terrible idea for the short and long-term.

Edited December 9, 2005 by Transmogrified Tiger

[sherwood921]

I know this is unlikely, but what if we traded Aram for him and resigned Nomar to play 3B?

 

Sure, if you don't mind waiting until May 1 for Nomar. We didn't offer arby.

 

Shoot forgot about that...why couldn't this news have come a few days earlier?

[E.J.]

If Hendry can somehow pull something off I will personally go to see him and kiss his feet. Please make it happen Hendry. Please...

[CuseCubFan69]

I know this is unlikely, but what if we traded Aram for him and resigned Nomar to play 3B?

 

I'd see what Boston wants for Lowell.

[sherwood921]

I would say

 

Hill, Pie, Williams, Cedeno as a first offer and see where to go from there.

 

No way. We'd cripple ourselves.

 

In what way? Cedeno isn't going to play SS and he doesn't have the bat for second IMO. Pierre is going to sign a 3 or 4 year deal with the Cubs so that gets rid of Pie. The pitchers would hurt but they might be gone for a Dunn or Abreu anyway so why not get a bat that covers a postion that most teams don't have one?

 

We still need a RF, and there aren't any good ones out there. What do we have left to trade at this point? After the Pierre trade and this, there's nothing even remotely close to Major League ready that's of any worth. It also rids you of any rotation depth you have. Now you're looking at Prior, Z, Wood, Maddux, Rusch, and Wellemeyer is the only starter that could step in unless you're JC. We've already dealt the top two AA arms, so Ryu, who isn't a great prospect is the best player that's closest to the bigs. Making that deal you settle SS, but you no longer have any trading chips to improve the team, and the only thing you get is a 30 year old average defensive SS that'll hit .350/.500 at 12.5 million per for 4 years. Terrible idea for the short and long-term.

 

If there aren't any good RF, why not get a SS who produces like a RF? Then you can afford to go after one of those not so good RF.

[erik316wttn]

It's a nice pipe dream, guys, but there is no way Tejada is a Cub by Opening Day. No. Way.

[erik316wttn]

I know this is unlikely, but what if we traded Aram for him and resigned Nomar to play 3B?

 

I'd see what Boston wants for Lowell.

 

We didn't offer Nomar arbitration, so he won't be back.

[Transmogrified Tiger]

I would say

 

Hill, Pie, Williams, Cedeno as a first offer and see where to go from there.

 

No way. We'd cripple ourselves.

 

In what way? Cedeno isn't going to play SS and he doesn't have the bat for second IMO. Pierre is going to sign a 3 or 4 year deal with the Cubs so that gets rid of Pie. The pitchers would hurt but they might be gone for a Dunn or Abreu anyway so why not get a bat that covers a postion that most teams don't have one?

 

We still need a RF, and there aren't any good ones out there. What do we have left to trade at this point? After the Pierre trade and this, there's nothing even remotely close to Major League ready that's of any worth. It also rids you of any rotation depth you have. Now you're looking at Prior, Z, Wood, Maddux, Rusch, and Wellemeyer is the only starter that could step in unless you're JC. We've already dealt the top two AA arms, so Ryu, who isn't a great prospect is the best player that's closest to the bigs. Making that deal you settle SS, but you no longer have any trading chips to improve the team, and the only thing you get is a 30 year old average defensive SS that'll hit .350/.500 at 12.5 million per for 4 years. Terrible idea for the short and long-term.

 

If there aren't any good RF, why not get a SS who produces like a RF? Then you can afford to go after one of those not so good RF.

 

In Free Agency there isn't, and Tejada isn't a great hitter compared to other OF's. Tejada is a good player, don't get me wrong, but he's leaving his prime, has a hefty but manageable contract, and doesn't produce enough to justify selling the farm to acquire.

[oldcubsfan]

Pie, Hill and Cedeno and a pitcher for him. Take Murton too.

[CuseCubFan69]

I know this is unlikely, but what if we traded Aram for him and resigned Nomar to play 3B?

 

I'd see what Boston wants for Lowell.

 

We didn't offer Nomar arbitration, so he won't be back.

 

I know....that's why I suggested Lowell. :D

[Sarcastic]

I would say

 

Hill, Pie, Williams, Cedeno as a first offer and see where to go from there.

 

No way. We'd cripple ourselves.

 

In what way? Cedeno isn't going to play SS and he doesn't have the bat for second IMO. Pierre is going to sign a 3 or 4 year deal with the Cubs so that gets rid of Pie. The pitchers would hurt but they might be gone for a Dunn or Abreu anyway so why not get a bat that covers a postion that most teams don't have one?

 

We still need a RF, and there aren't any good ones out there. What do we have left to trade at this point? After the Pierre trade and this, there's nothing even remotely close to Major League ready that's of any worth. It also rids you of any rotation depth you have. Now you're looking at Prior, Z, Wood, Maddux, Rusch, and Wellemeyer is the only starter that could step in unless you're JC. We've already dealt the top two AA arms, so Ryu, who isn't a great prospect is the best player that's closest to the bigs. Making that deal you settle SS, but you no longer have any trading chips to improve the team, and the only thing you get is a 30 year old average defensive SS that'll hit .350/.500 at 12.5 million per for 4 years. Terrible idea for the short and long-term.

 

If there aren't any good RF, why not get a SS who produces like a RF? Then you can afford to go after one of those not so good RF.

 

Because it would be too expensive? Hendry could ask about this, but I'm not holding my breath, whether he inquires or not. The asking price would probably be much too high to be worth it.

[oldcubsfan]

I would say

 

Hill, Pie, Williams, Cedeno as a first offer and see where to go from there.

 

No way. We'd cripple ourselves.

 

In what way? Cedeno isn't going to play SS and he doesn't have the bat for second IMO. Pierre is going to sign a 3 or 4 year deal with the Cubs so that gets rid of Pie. The pitchers would hurt but they might be gone for a Dunn or Abreu anyway so why not get a bat that covers a postion that most teams don't have one?

 

We still need a RF, and there aren't any good ones out there. What do we have left to trade at this point? After the Pierre trade and this, there's nothing even remotely close to Major League ready that's of any worth. It also rids you of any rotation depth you have. Now you're looking at Prior, Z, Wood, Maddux, Rusch, and Wellemeyer is the only starter that could step in unless you're JC. We've already dealt the top two AA arms, so Ryu, who isn't a great prospect is the best player that's closest to the bigs. Making that deal you settle SS, but you no longer have any trading chips to improve the team, and the only thing you get is a 30 year old average defensive SS that'll hit .350/.500 at 12.5 million per for 4 years. Terrible idea for the short and long-term.

 

If there aren't any good RF, why not get a SS who produces like a RF? Then you can afford to go after one of those not so good RF.

 

In Free Agency there isn't, and Tejada isn't a great hitter compared to other OF's. Tejada is a good player, don't get me wrong, but he's leaving his prime, has a hefty but manageable contract, and doesn't produce enough to justify selling the farm to acquire.

the farm system doesn't possess any can't miss prospects, sorry, I trade them for Tejada.

[CuseCubFan69]

I would say

 

Hill, Pie, Williams, Cedeno as a first offer and see where to go from there.

 

No way. We'd cripple ourselves.

 

In what way? Cedeno isn't going to play SS and he doesn't have the bat for second IMO. Pierre is going to sign a 3 or 4 year deal with the Cubs so that gets rid of Pie. The pitchers would hurt but they might be gone for a Dunn or Abreu anyway so why not get a bat that covers a postion that most teams don't have one?

 

We still need a RF, and there aren't any good ones out there. What do we have left to trade at this point? After the Pierre trade and this, there's nothing even remotely close to Major League ready that's of any worth. It also rids you of any rotation depth you have. Now you're looking at Prior, Z, Wood, Maddux, Rusch, and Wellemeyer is the only starter that could step in unless you're JC. We've already dealt the top two AA arms, so Ryu, who isn't a great prospect is the best player that's closest to the bigs. Making that deal you settle SS, but you no longer have any trading chips to improve the team, and the only thing you get is a 30 year old average defensive SS that'll hit .350/.500 at 12.5 million per for 4 years. Terrible idea for the short and long-term.

 

If there aren't any good RF, why not get a SS who produces like a RF? Then you can afford to go after one of those not so good RF.

 

In Free Agency there isn't, and Tejada isn't a great hitter compared to other OF's. Tejada is a good player, don't get me wrong, but he's leaving his prime, has a hefty but manageable contract, and doesn't produce enough to justify selling the farm to acquire.

 

He's 2 years younger than Abreu and plays a more important postion IMO and does it well. Why isn't he worth 3 or 4 prospects?

[Transmogrified Tiger]

In Free Agency there isn't, and Tejada isn't a great hitter compared to other OF's. Tejada is a good player, don't get me wrong, but he's leaving his prime, has a hefty but manageable contract, and doesn't produce enough to justify selling the farm to acquire.

the farm system doesn't possess any can't miss prospects, sorry, I trade them for Tejada.

 

That doesn't mean you trade ALL of them. Look at my first post, we'd be forced into Rusch in the rotation, with no one nearing the Majors on the farm as a SP. We still wouldn't have a RF, and we'd have nothing left to get one with, unless we trade Walker, which opens up another hole.

[XZero771679666304]

I know this is unlikely, but what if we traded Aram for him and resigned Nomar to play 3B?

 

I'd see what Boston wants for Lowell.

 

We didn't offer Nomar arbitration, so he won't be back.

 

I know....that's why I suggested Lowell. :D

 

Of course Boston is going to be all over this. If they are involved in any deal for Miggy, they will be the ones getting him.

[Fred Hornkohl]

Give them whatever they ask for except Prior and Z-ANYONE!!

 

R.Hill+J.Williams+Pie+Cedeno for Tejada-

 

Thats our 2 best position prospects, best pitching prospect and a young experienced arm for arguably the most productive SS in baseball-Heck, throw in Cpatt in need be-I could get really used to an infield of Lee-TWalk-Tejada-Ramirez.....really used to it

 

Hell, I'd be willing to throw in J Hairston Jr if that's what it'd take to put them over the top, eh? :wink:

 

If only we still had Macias to throw in.

 

Hey... it hasn't been 10 days yet since we DFA'd him, has it ???

[CuseCubFan69]

I know this is unlikely, but what if we traded Aram for him and resigned Nomar to play 3B?

 

I'd see what Boston wants for Lowell.

 

We didn't offer Nomar arbitration, so he won't be back.

 

I know....that's why I suggested Lowell. :D

 

Of course Boston is going to be all over this. If they are involved in any deal for Miggy, they will be the ones getting him.

 

I just wrote that in the "I like what Boston is doing" thread. Imagine Tejada for Manny?

[Sarcastic]

He's 2 years younger than Abreu and plays a more important postion IMO and does it well. Why isn't he worth 3 or 4 prospects?

 

Because he isn't really that great of an offensive player. We got slightly less production from Walker last year that we would probably get from Tejada this year. Just because he plays a positon were offense is scarce doesn't mean we should overpay for him, especially if it is possible to upgrade more cheaply at another position.

Edited December 9, 2005 by Sarcastic