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Please stop lying. I've listened to the Piniella interview and he never said that. All hew said is that if they made a trade, he'd CONSIDER moving Soriano down. Also, the part about Gallagher was a lie, since he's obviously pitched past AA, and pitched well. Oh, and Roberts also doesnt get on base 40 points higher than Soriano. Roberts OBP: .377 Soriano: .337 I'm aware of where their numbers were last season. He didn't say "Roberts got on base 40 points higher than Soriano last season", he said "Roberts gets on base 40 points higher than Soriano". Look at the career numbers. OK, come on now . . . I'm enjoying this all as much as anyone - but he's got you here. You called him out, and now it's been proven that he was actually right. Just give him a "touche" and move on . . . Do you really think I wasn't aware of the OBP stats of those 2 guys last season? Please. With how much this has been debated this offseason, the stats of Roberts/Soriano/Derosa are etched into my mind for eternity. What he said was not an accurate statement. He doesn't "get on base 40 points higher than Soriano". He did last season. What about the season before? Kahlil Greene outhomered Aramis last season. So would it be an accurate statement to say that "Greene hits for more power than Ramirez"? I certainly don't think so. I really don't know what you know . . . but I think I'll go with O_O's line that "either interpretation is reasonable." W23'S claim of fact was backed up with, um . . . FACTS! and, may I say that I'm honored to finally be in a #-o with someone on this most venerated and historic thread. I'd like to thank my wife, and the academy, and . . .
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Please stop lying. I've listened to the Piniella interview and he never said that. All hew said is that if they made a trade, he'd CONSIDER moving Soriano down. Also, the part about Gallagher was a lie, since he's obviously pitched past AA, and pitched well. Oh, and Roberts also doesnt get on base 40 points higher than Soriano. Roberts OBP: .377 Soriano: .337 I'm aware of where their numbers were last season. He didn't say "Roberts got on base 40 points higher than Soriano last season", he said "Roberts gets on base 40 points higher than Soriano". Look at the career numbers. OK, come on now . . . I'm enjoying this all as much as anyone - but he's got you here. You called him out, and now it's been proven that he was actually right. Just give him a "touche" and move on . . . Do you really think I wasn't aware of the OBP stats of those 2 guys last season? Please. With how much this has been debated this offseason, the stats of Roberts/Soriano/Derosa are etched into my mind for eternity. What he said was not an accurate statement. He doesn't "get on base 40 points higher than Soriano". He did last season. What about the season before? Kahlil Greene outhomered Aramis last season. So would it be an accurate statement to say that "Greene hits for more power than Ramirez"? I certainly don't think so. I really don't know what you know . . . but I think I'll go with O_O's line that "either interpretation is reasonable." W23'S claim of fact was backed up with, um . . . FACTS!
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Please stop lying. I've listened to the Piniella interview and he never said that. All hew said is that if they made a trade, he'd CONSIDER moving Soriano down. Also, the part about Gallagher was a lie, since he's obviously pitched past AA, and pitched well. Oh, and Roberts also doesnt get on base 40 points higher than Soriano. Roberts OBP: .377 Soriano: .337 I'm aware of where their numbers were last season. He didn't say "Roberts got on base 40 points higher than Soriano last season", he said "Roberts gets on base 40 points higher than Soriano". Look at the career numbers. OK, come on now . . . I'm enjoying this all as much as anyone - but he's got you here. You called him out, and now it's been proven that he was actually right. Just give him a "touche" and move on . . .
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I project that this thread may rival the BRob monster! But your project sounds like a good one - and I hope you can get it published!
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This is being discussed over here . . . http://www.northsidebaseball.com/Forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=44800&start=125
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Cubs vs. Diamondbacks Pre Series Discussion Thread
Springfield_CUBBY replied to UMFan83's topic in Chicago Cubs Talk
:shock: :GULP: I remember saying JUST THAT!!!! :cry: :x :cry: -
If no one is willing to tell me WHY you are adamant that he not be in the front office, I'm going to assume it's because you simply don’t like the cut of his jib (or some other lame reason)!!
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Well, not really . . . I think Melman is going to actually BE an owner. And if he's friends with Stoney, then that could lead to a front office job. At the risk of incurring the wrath of you guys - What's the main beef with Stone as a front office guy? I mean, is it SS as GM that you don't want to see, or are you equally scared of him as Asst GM (or even Assistant TO the GM?)? I don't want Steve Stone involved in personnel decisions at any level. Yeah, yeah, I get that you don't want him involved - but why?
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Well, not really . . . I think Melman is going to actually BE an owner. And if he's friends with Stoney, then that could lead to a front office job. At the risk of incurring the wrath of you guys - What's the main beef with Stone as a front office guy? I mean, is it SS as GM that you don't want to see, or are you equally scared of him as Asst GM (or even Assistant TO the GM?)?
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While that is a unique characteristic of Oakland, then it would be within reason to expect his FB% to be high last year too. However, last year was right inline with his career. He has 104 FBs as opposed to 130 all of last year and right around 150 the previous years. I don't know anywhere that tracks pop fouls, but that'd have to be an awful lot of pop fouls this year over last to account for the disparity. Also, I wonder if those would be counted as infield fly balls (most of the extended foul territory is in the IF and rarely do corner OFs make it all the way past the line to make foul catches). Hes right inline with his career on that stat. Has anyone mentioned that Gerald Perry (Kendall's hitting coach last year), was heavily in favor of the trade. Maybe Perry has already pinpointed something that Kendall is not doing or believes he can easily get Kendall turned around? I haven't read many of the articles to see if there are quotes from Perry, but word is that this is a Gary Hughes acquisition. I imagine though that being the hitting coach and working with Kendall last year, Perry had a pretty decent say in the matter, so if Perry wasn't behind it, thge trade probably wouldn't have happened. Actually, if Perry wasn't behind it, Hughes most likely wouldn't have even been scouting Kendall. From today's Suntimes: http://www.suntimes.com/sports/baseball/cubs/470970,CST-SPT-cub17.article I wonder how long Hughes had been scouting Kendall. Bruce, have any idea? Is that what the three days of discussions is referencing? In an interview on CSN, Hendry mentioned that he got a call from Beane on Saturday offering Kendall. So I assume that started the 3 days of negotiations. That is what Hendry told Len & Bob in the booth yesterday. He did say that Beane contacted him. And that they had been in talks since Saturday. They were finally able to cut the deal yesterday. I'm guessing it took a few days to figure out the financial aspects. Plus, Beane was probably trying his hardest to get Marshall. Which would explain why Bowen was DFA'd before yesterday's game. They felt they needed a 12th pitcher in case Hill struggled, but they couldn't finalize the trade details before the game started, so they needed to cut somebody from the roster to make room for Petrick. Since they knew Bowen was going to be traded anyway and they still had Hill and Soto available for last night's game it made sense to DFA Bowen. Now that Kendall is here they can send either Hill (after he clears waivers) or Soto down. I think all signs point to Soto going down . . . :cry:
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While that is a unique characteristic of Oakland, then it would be within reason to expect his FB% to be high last year too. However, last year was right inline with his career. He has 104 FBs as opposed to 130 all of last year and right around 150 the previous years. I don't know anywhere that tracks pop fouls, but that'd have to be an awful lot of pop fouls this year over last to account for the disparity. Also, I wonder if those would be counted as infield fly balls (most of the extended foul territory is in the IF and rarely do corner OFs make it all the way past the line to make foul catches). Hes right inline with his career on that stat. Has anyone mentioned that Gerald Perry (Kendall's hitting coach last year), was heavily in favor of the trade. Maybe Perry has already pinpointed something that Kendall is not doing or believes he can easily get Kendall turned around? I haven't read many of the articles to see if there are quotes from Perry, but word is that this is a Gary Hughes acquisition. I imagine though that being the hitting coach and working with Kendall last year, Perry had a pretty decent say in the matter, so if Perry wasn't behind it, thge trade probably wouldn't have happened. Actually, if Perry wasn't behind it, Hughes most likely wouldn't have even been scouting Kendall. From today's Suntimes: http://www.suntimes.com/sports/baseball/cubs/470970,CST-SPT-cub17.article I wonder how long Hughes had been scouting Kendall. Bruce, have any idea? Is that what the three days of discussions is referencing? In an interview on CSN, Hendry mentioned that he got a call from Beane on Saturday offering Kendall. So I assume that started the 3 days of negotiations.
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While that is a unique characteristic of Oakland, then it would be within reason to expect his FB% to be high last year too. However, last year was right inline with his career. He has 104 FBs as opposed to 130 all of last year and right around 150 the previous years. I don't know anywhere that tracks pop fouls, but that'd have to be an awful lot of pop fouls this year over last to account for the disparity. Also, I wonder if those would be counted as infield fly balls (most of the extended foul territory is in the IF and rarely do corner OFs make it all the way past the line to make foul catches). Hes right inline with his career on that stat. Has anyone mentioned that Gerald Perry (Kendall's hitting coach last year), was heavily in favor of the trade. Maybe Perry has already pinpointed something that Kendall is not doing or believes he can easily get Kendall turned around? I haven't read many of the articles to see if there are quotes from Perry, but word is that this is a Gary Hughes acquisition. I imagine though that being the hitting coach and working with Kendall last year, Perry had a pretty decent say in the matter, so if Perry wasn't behind it, thge trade probably wouldn't have happened. Actually, if Perry wasn't behind it, Hughes most likely wouldn't have even been scouting Kendall. From today's Suntimes: http://www.suntimes.com/sports/baseball/cubs/470970,CST-SPT-cub17.article
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I saw that this morning. I hope that's not the case. I tend to doubt that it's already occurred since you'd wait until Kendall had actually arrived at the ballpark. It wouldn't surprise me, in any event. Keeping Soto and DFAing Hill is the right move, and therefore the one that Hendry is unlikely to make. They better DFA Hill. Otherwise I may have to become upset. The Trib seems to think Soto is heading back down: http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/cubs/cs-070716cubsside,1,1459326.story?coll=cs-home-headlines
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I was pretty sure I heard it, that's why I posted it. If I had doubts, I wouldn't have posted it or I would have posted it as a question in another thread. I really don't care if I'm the first to post something. I beleive Murph was just throwing out the Twins . . as in "Jones to the Twins, Buerle to the Dogers . . not yet at least . . . !"
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I know I shouldn't be surprised, but . . . http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/cubs/cs-070412cubsprior,1,797031.story?coll=cs-cubs-headlines

