I don't think peoples' feelings need to be coddled or protected. If something mock-worthy gets mocked, accept it and deal with it as you wish. I agree with the premise that concentrated ridiculousness needs to be subject to some form of backlash from peers. The problem is drawing the line on when it's okay and how much. Too often it turns into a pissing contest and things get derailed. I'll use the Carlos Pena thread as an example. It's cherry-picking one of many threads, but I think it's a good microcosm of a lot of thread derailments that happen here: He still sucks. Hard-hitting analysis there. Vinestal made a worthless observation that contributed nothing (but was still on topic), and Rob's mockery used equivalent effort and board space to address the ridiculousness. The response Rob gave may not be satisfying or full of the right jokes or snark that some other posters may think vinestal's post deserved, but too bad. It was a three-word, harmless post - pointlessness addressed, time to move on. Rob even tried to accelerate the discussion back in the right direction by using the very same post to expand on his defense of Pena (I edited out the rest of the post). It was helpful and constructive, but not necessary. But the mockery and ensuing bickering went over the top in a way that did much more damage to the thread than the original post did. Wow you guys are awesome, this is the reason these boards are a ghost town and there are like 8 people that post here on a regular basis. I never said Barney is the 2b of the future I said I liked what I saw from him so far. Christ learn to read and stop talking for other people. If you run off everyone with an opinion sooner or later you'll be the only ones here left to listen to yours, of course that may be the way you want it and maybe its better that way. Hey, davearm got a sidekick! Now a Carlos Pena thread is picking up an argument from the Darwin Barney thread, davearm is brought into the discussion from nowhere (bad on a few levels), and the defensive backlash to these reactions only makes the threadjack worse. There's no need for warnings or bannings or further clarification of rules or anything like that. I think the mods should just delete this group of posts and call it a day.