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I agree on Chapman. I would rather save the money and play Madrigal. I also agree that if they accomplished the off season we hope they have, Madrigal will get a lot of starts at 3rd. Just hope someone fills that spot later in the season. The only wild card on the team is Morel. But he doesn’t appear to be a 3rd baseman. So he will be traded, is my guess.
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If accomplishing plan A means they have one of Ohtani or Soto, 1 of Hoskins or Alonso and a trade for a young pitcher and/or sign another pitcher, I agree with you that Madrigal will be the OD 3rd baseman, But my comment was Madrigal cannot be the full time everyday 3ed baseman. You even agree he should be replaced in mid-June. So therefore you don’t think he will be the everyday 3rd baseman either. I don’t think Morel will be an option at 3rd under plan A. Mainly because I think he will be needed in a trade for either Soto, Alonso or a young pitcher. So as you said they cannot fill all positions and Madrigal will open at 3rd. Hopefully he is replaced in mid June.
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Madrigal cannot be the regular 3rd baseman full time. That would not make for good offense at 3rd.
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If your list of guys we should ink in is accurate I don’t see a spot to add anyone. I think Little and Smyly are as sure as the guys you mentioned. I also think Palencia is exactly the type of guy Counsell will love and will get a lot out of. I honestly can see a trade if Assad and maybe Wesnecki providing some space to add a pen arm.
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Cassie isn’t below average defensively in right. That said, he probably will end up at 1st at some point. But I feel people worry way too much about where a prospect will play if/when they come to the majors. Too much concern about blocking a prospect. If a guy is good he will have a spot. If he prices he is a major league player a trade can be made. A player can chance positions, etc. There is now a DH, so that adds a spot. Let hope the Cubs have a problem if too many great players coming up and no place to play them. As for Mervis at first, I have been on his side longer than most. But it does appear to me the Cubs do not have faith in him. So I wouldn’t worry about him playing first as a reason not to give Cassie reps there.
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That is a good point. But would Triantos for Glasnow be fair? Borderline Cubs top 10 prospect. Also a type of guy Tampa seems to like. I don’t really like the trade simulator, However according to it, this is a very fair trade. I would be ok with something like this.
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But that is kind of the point. A guy the Cubs might have 11-15, Tampa may really like. So maybe the Cubs can get Glasnow for him. Using what a guy traded as a rental isn’t comparing apples to apples. As a rental you aren’t taking on as much salary. As good as Glasnow is, as you have pointed out, he is always hurt. He is not a sure thing to throw 130 innings. And he cost $25M. If someone wants to give a top 50-100 prospect for him they can have him. I don’t think be brings that. He is worth a look at if TB is reasonable on the return. If not, no big deal.
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I year at $25M does hurt his trade value, however. If he cost a top 10 prospect on the Cubs, I would pass on this idea. We are talking about TB here. So they will want to drop his salary. And, they may like someone we don’t even have on our radar as a top Cubs prospect. It is worth looking into, anyway. My point is they can trade for a decent starting pitcher of high salary on the last year of his deal if they can get him cheaply. Just let him go the next year. Glasnow fits that scenario. But there might be others.
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They can also trade for Glasnow and go over the LT if need be. The following year Glasgow is gone and Otani takes that spot in the rotation. Bingo, bango, bongo….. Glasnow gone in 25’ so back under the LT.
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I don’t know if a contract can be structured like this, but if the Cubs did want 4 years of Hoskins is actually healthy, could they do one for $20M with a $5M buy out or club option for next 3 years at $20M per year? If they can do something like that, I would be ok with it. If it is Alonso for a year but you lose Morel or Hoskins for a year and whoever (young pitcher) you get for Morel I would take the Hoskins option. I would also take the Hoskins for 3 more years at $20M a year (if healthy) over 6 more of Alonso for maybe $138M.
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I wouldn’t do that. How much does he get if he was healthy? I think that is close to what he would get had he not missed all of last year. I would rather a 1 year deal.
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As long as this is a Bellinger type deal and not the big off season move, I would be ok with him.
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I think I responded to the wrong post. Maybe I was drunk. My bad.
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I don’t think Candelario should block anyone either. But with first base, 3rd base and DH all available I doubt be blocks anyone. Now, your point on not wanting him is a different topic. As I said, I only see him as an ok player. I would be ok with 3/$40M. But I am also fine if they stayed away. There are other options. And I do think someone will give him more than I would want the Cubs to give him.
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Shaw is just the next great prospect. When the time comes for him to come up people will be finding fault with him too. You don’t leave spaces open for guys I don’t love Candelario. And I would be fine not getting him. But as long as the Cubs or whoever does sign him value him as an ok starter he can be signed to a reasonable contract. I am not, in any way, advocating the Cubs should sign him. I am just saying he is an ok/decent player. And if the ins did sign him he better be their 4th biggest acquisition (via FA or trade) of the off season. He can’t be a main signing. That is what I mean by he is ok if valued correctly.
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Hesitant to do what? Offer a 3 year deal? I think he will get that. For the right price as long as you realize he is what he is, he is an ok signing. #6 hitter in a solid line up and preferrably a 3rd baseman. He is fine for maybe 3/$40M.
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Has to be 1 for me. Even if, for the sake of the discussion, Soto signed a long term deal, I would still chose 1 as long as Ohtani was here at least 4 years before opt outs kicked in. And even if Hoskins replaced Candelario or Turner it would still be one. Another thing against 2 is Soto would cost more than Alonso in a trade. So you lose more assets too. That said, an off season of Yamamoto, Soto and Hoskins would not be disappointing.
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Just my opinion, but I think Happ is less likely to be at 3rd than Morel is. Not often does a guy go from an easier position to a harder one. Usually the other way around. Most recent examples are Bryant and Braun. Happ has been in the OF too long and really, even when he did play the infield it wasn’t 3rd. Maybe he can play 1st.
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Maybe the Cubs asked them to play him at 3rd…… Personally I think way too much was made out of him getting work at 1st. I think that is fine. But unlike most, I did not let that lead me to deciding the Cubs gave up on him playing 3rd. I still think once winter ball is over he will be worked at 3rd by Cubs coaches. For me, that is his best option. And if he can’t do it they will need to move him, IMO.
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I think he has proven he can’t play center to the same level he has proven he can’t play 3rd. So I guess they want to try 1st.
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Both, but probably another team.
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Darvish has been more valuable to the Cubs since he was traded than he was as a Cub.
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Yeah, I don’t buy the report either. I think Soto is traded this off season. If the Padres have to cut payroll they can’t keep him to the deadline to see how they are doing. They need to cut payroll. What happens if they are in the race and still have to cut payroll? How do they trade him then. I agree with 1908. He will be traded this off season until they prove he is not.
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Going somewhere, Soto? Yes, to the Yankees
Rcal10 replied to Bobson Dugnutt's topic in Chicago Cubs Talk
While I think it can help if you have him on the team in 24’ I think I’m the end he will take the most money. There is a slim chance he comes here and loves it so he gives a SLIGHT dissonant. Or maybe an offer is made so good he decides not to bother with the FA process. But I would say that is, at best, a 5% chance. -
I think if they did this they would add one more pitcher too. And either Morel would have to have proven himself to be able to play 3rd or they would have to also trade him for a 3rd baseman. But if they did just what you said I would call that a pretty good off season.
