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Not a fair comparison. Glasnow will cost a lot less as far as prospects go. If they are going to aim high and lose prospects I would take Gilbert over either of those guys. If they are going to go as far as Cease and what the Sox would want for him, give me Gilbert.
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Cubs aren’t getting Cease. I don’t see the Sox trading him back to us.
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Exactly. And they have $50M+ coming off the books the following year. And if part of that $277M is on a guy who is here only 1 year(Glasnow, Bieber, Hoskins) that comes off as well. They should go in this year.
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Sounds like you were around in the 60’s and 70’s. My first heartbreak was the 69 cubs. As a 9 year old fan I was very into baseball. Loved Santo and the entire team. That was a bad summer. Sucks Santo wasn’t around to get into the hall or for the Cubs finally winning.
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Wait until your childhood favorites are dead. Then talk to me. Santo was my favorite player which explains the 10 at the end of my name. At least Williams and Fergie are still alive. Banks had seen his best years by the time I was all in.
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Going somewhere, Soto? Yes, to the Yankees
Rcal10 replied to Bobson Dugnutt's topic in Chicago Cubs Talk
So, just curious, if instead of Candelario they sign Bellinger. Then they trade PCA for a stud young controlled young pitcher and they keep Morel wouldn’t this team still be the favorite in the central? Maybe 3rd and DH is filled with Madrigal/Wisdom/Mastroboni/Morel. Or maybe they make a smaller trade for Solano and let him play 3rd. Morel just is the DH. I think that team still wins. Yes, it’s not what I want. Might be plan C, but still a good off season. And if the Yankees are going to get Soto in a trade doesn’t that take them out of Ohtani and Bellinger? Doesn’t that raise the chances of at least Bellinger back to the Cubs? -
I get that. I am not a prospect horder. I am fine with them moving guys out because a new one will be in. And Gilbert is a guy who makes sense to deal for. But the cost will be very high.
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Yep, I could see as much as 25 starts and 160 innings if his surgery fixed what the primary issue has been for him since he has been in the big leagues. Maybe he misses a few starts do to spasms, then einf careful with him, etc…. But no reason to think his injuries should continue. Now if it was a consideration for a long term deal, I might pass. But for one year I feel he is a good high reward risk.
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I know they aren’t going close to $300M. But they have to go over the LT this year. It makes too much sense as long as they are back under in 25’. That said, for me, I think it is wrong for a large market to worry about that sort of thing. But based on past experience, I am certainTR won’t live over the LT too long even if they go over in 24(which IMO, they have to).
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I think the difference in cost between those two would be like going an extra marathon not a mile. But sure, Gilbert would be the much better addition.
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I agree with you Bertz. My question withbGlasnow is his injury history. Has it always been shoulder, elbow related? If so isn’t all of that a precursor to eventual TJS? And if that is the case and he had the surgery and is now back should he really be judged on his past injuries? If they were all related to his arm and his arm is now stable, why can’t he throw 170+ innings next year. After the surgery and he started pitching in 23’ how many starts did he miss? tbf, I honestly don’t know what all his issues have been. That is why I am asking. But if they were all arm related and now the arm is sound, why is it such a concern about him for 1 year? I wouldn’t sign him to a 5 year deal, but we are talking about 1 year. as for the Ohtani concerns, I see it differently. I see a guy like Glasnow or another pitcher on the last year of his deal making perfect sense. Ohtani can take his spot in 25’.
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But they could go higher as long as who they take is on a one year deal and his salary would drop off as well in 25’. So using your numbers at $277M if they know Glasnow is gone after this year or even Bieber at $12M they could conceivably go to over $300M with Glasnow and around $290M with Bieber and still be under in 25’. Now, I know they are not doing that. TR wouldn’t sign off on that. I am just saying they could and only be over the LT for one year. Or if they did go to $277M or $280M this year but a portion of that is to either Glasnow, Bieber or another guy they plan on having for just next year, that drops off in 25’ too. So that might have $65-$75 dropping of in 25’. Enoughto be well under and even make some moves where they might add salary in 25’ and still be under.
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See what I mean. So easy to replace I don’t even know how to spell his name. Thanks for pointing that out.
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I think the bigger issue with payroll is the Cubs ability to get back under the LT in 25’ more so than what they spend in 24’. That is why Glasnow and his salary doesn’t concern me. In 25’ Horton takes his spot. Maybe Ben Brown. Maybe Ohtani. In 25’ they have $50M+ coming off and all pretty much easily replaceable players or even dead money. Basically they lose Hendricks and Gomes. One ca be replaced internally and the other with a cheaper contract for a back up catcher. One year of over the LT isn’t going to hurt them. But to me the real goal is to be back under in 25’.
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I don’t think it is a hard decision at all. Cubs have a lot of similar middle relief/lonf relief/spot starters. I wouldn’t think twice about moving Wesnecki. They can have Thompson too(another easily replaced pitcher)
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I hope they do more than that. I agree with the part on the one year pitcher. That is why I mention Glasnow. I think there is no way they get Burnes. And if they get Ohtani and Glasnow/Beiber and stop, I wouldn’t be happy. I want another pitcher and another bat.
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What what about Wesnicki?
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The problem with the long term contract is “if” they signed Ohtani or traded for Soto and extended him and then paid a pitcher $25M for 5 to 9 years they would have some real problems with their payroll for years. I think what makes Glasnow or other guys on their last year of a deal more interesting is the Cubs don’t have to tie up their payroll for years. And if Ohtani was signed he could just takes Glasnow’s space in 25’. Sure I would rather just sign Yamamoto, but Ricketts isn’t going to always be over the LT.
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I don’t necessarily like Glasnow a lot. All I am saying is you can’t say you are ok with trading for him and then say you would only offer terrible players for him. Just say you don’t want him. As for payroll, I already explained it would be a one year one off. They are losing around $50M from payroll in 25’ and the only real loss they are needing to replace is Hendricks. If they traded for Glasnow, and even went to $280M in payroll this year, besides the $50M coming off next year would also be Glasnow at $25M. So they would be under the first LT by $30M. And wouldn’t need to replace much. All I have to consider when thinking of Glasnow is will he help them next year. And IMO if he is healthy he will. Is he better than Wesnecki and Thompson next year? Again I would say yes. That said, I am fine with other moves instead. I also wouldn’t give up top prospects for Glasnow. But IMO the fact he only has one year is a plus for the Cubs. Keeps prospect cost down and they can get out of his deal in one year.
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So again. We aren’t getting him then. It not just the Cubs they are trading with. I don’t understand your worry about money. If he pitches well who cares what he makes? If he cost Wesnecki and Thompson, who cares. Is he better than those guys? Yes. Are those guys even sure things to be in the team in 25? No! So if he helps you win next year and then in 25’ either Horton takes his spot, or if they sign Ohtani, he takes his spot, who really cares about the payroll in 24’? No, I wouldn’t give up a top prospect. I wouldn’t give up Morel. But the Xubs have a lot of redundant arms they can move. And if he pitches close to as a starter who is TOR quality, I really am not all all concerned about 24’s payroll.
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I don’t think his salary lessens the chance of Soto or Ohtani. They are going to go over in 24 anyway. If anything, him coming now makes perfect sense if they also get Ohtani. Gkasnow pitches in 24’ and then Ohtani takes his spot in 25’ and his salary drops off. Same can be said for Bierber.
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That fine. I understand people not wanting him. And they aren’t going to get him for a terrible prospect.
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So what you are saying is you don’t want him. They aren’t getting him for a terrible prospect. BTW, what do you think he is worth? Why is money so important if they are only going to have him for one year? If he is healthy he is a very good pitcher. And a type they don’t have now. Someone who misses bats. What does he have to do to be “worth $25M?
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So directed at me. That is fine. I also find it tiring that everyone assumes he won’t do it. As 1908 said let’s wait and see. But of course it can’t be left at that, or this would have never been posted.
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Well if he is traded I think that would mean he couldn’t play 3rd. So we will know. And if one of us is wrong I think we can agree it would be better if you are wrong😀
