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  1. 245 tomorrow afternoon
  2. Yeah there was a report early they would listen, but it’s been crickets on Alonso for a while now. Doesn’t sound like there’s much traction there to move him.
  3. David Bednar has been elite the last 3 years. He’s thrown a total of 152 innings and has a total of a 4.5 fWAR. Cade Horton could most likely get you very close to that same value in 1 year. So no.. I’m not giving up one of the best pitching prospects in the game for a reliever that’s giving me ~1fWAR a year. It blows my mind how anybody could be okay with that. This isn’t a 2016 Chapman scenario.
  4. I wanted Westburg bad in a Stroman trade right before he got called up.
  5. Lord no. That would be an awful trade. Cubs get fleeced. The Pirates would pack Bednars bags for him if we called and offered that.
  6. I might could budge a little on my initial stance on nobody in the top 10, but not much. If Ferris is a secondary piece, then I’m 100% all the way out. If this team was a closer away, like in 2016 with Chapman, sure. Sign me up. But we aren’t. Alzolay has been electric as the closer. Bednar would be awesome, but if we are trading high end prospects, I’d much rather that be for guys of Alonso’s caliber. Not a reliever. No way am I doing that.
  7. Some of the best pitchers in baseball has already had TJ. Wheeler, Ohtani, Gausman just to name a few. TJ is very common at all levels. I can tell you for 100% fact college pitchers absolutely view and accept TJ now as an obstacle they likely have to face at some point as I am around closely to a SEC baseball team and talk with players all the time. It’s not a death nail surgery that puts your career at risk. Sure some may never be the same post surgery, but the large majority come out fine.
  8. My definition of elite is the top tier of your peers. Horton should be compared to his peers currently in the minors… not Stephen Strasburg who was drafted like 15 years ago. Mike Trout shouldn’t be compared to Ted Williams. So on and so forth.
  9. I missed the Ben Brown / Strider comp. I don’t agree with that one. I do think Strider / Horton is a really fair comp to this point. I kind of like the fact that Horton already got TJ out of the way. It’s a relatively low percentage of pitchers that ever need TJ a 2nd time… much lower than needing it the first time… to this point. I saw the stat a couple of weeks ago. Wish I had saved it.
  10. Jesus we are splitting hairs and using your crazy insane own personal preference on prospect ranking to distinguish the difference between very good and elite. Who cares? Horton is damn good. One of the best against his peers. Strasburg isn’t a prospect this year. He’s likely never throwing another pitch in MLB. I’m comparing Horton against the pitchers he’s competing against. Not your personal prospect ranking.
  11. So you’d rather have quantity > quality?
  12. How are they not similar? Strider is almost strictly a 2 pitch starter in a league where you say starters need at least 4 pitches and maybe 5. Strider is about to be borderline back to back 5 fWAR seasons with 2 pitches he’s throws over 90% of the time. At the same point in their careers Horton has similar or better minor league numbers than Strider. Slightly less fastball velo, but Horton is still around 96-98. Elite ++ sliders. Seems like a pretty reasonable comp.
  13. Horton is literally #6 by default in his first full season… even if you don’t take the time to compare him against other SP prospects in the minors that he’s also better than. So the #5 guy is elite, but Cade Horton at #6 isn’t? Lol… Is Kyle Harrison elite? He’s the #3 SP prospect in baseball. Strikes out a ton of batters, sure.. but he’s walking *7* per 9 innings, 4.79 ERA, 5.14 xFIP, 44% FB rate. What is elite about him outside of the strikeouts?
  14. Horton has been working on a 3rd pitch most of the year that’s coming along nicely. Sure there will be growing pains. Guess who else sat between 38% - 48% FB% across A, A+, and AA? Spencer Strider… a guy that Horton is very similar too. Cade Horton has the velo, an elite ++ slider, striking out over 12 per 9, has a 2.53 xFIP. I’d say he’s elite.
  15. Dude… you’re saying Horton is not elite? Holy shiiiiiiiid man. Did you totally ignore the part of my post that brings up the overhauled pitching infrastructure that I gave you examples of it working out? Did you ignore the part about Carter Hawkins being hired and why? Do you see the Cubs spending huge draft capital on pitchers that need “fixing” because they are having major success right now fixing those types of guys? Do you ignore literally everything that’s right in front of your face that the Cubs are doing behind the scenes? Should we trade PCA for Candelario while we are at it? No guarantee PCA will even be good.
  16. You hate them. I’m only extremely high on Horton and PCA. Brown, Wicks, and Wesneski are likely BORP. I wanted to trade Brennan Davis even when prospect lists had him top 30 in baseball. I’m realistic with what I think. I don’t think every prospect is great. I also listen to people that know way more than I’ll ever know and they all love Cade Horton. I’m very fair. I can ***** about more of our prospects than I praise.
  17. Are we going to act like prospect development is linear and Juan Cruz and Cade Horton are the same people? Are we also going to act like… you know… the whole pitching infrastructure overhaul the Cubs did a few years ago isn’t working? The same one that helped turned Justin Steele from a nobody to MLB ace? Resurrected Adbert Alzolay’s career? Has left its stamp on many prospects throughout the organization? Do you know the main reason behind hiring Carter Hawkins? But no… let’s point out that Juan Cruz was once a top prospect that failed so now we should trade one of the most exciting pitching prospects in the whole game for a reliever. Makes totallllll sense
  18. Lord man. Williams is 5 days away from losing prospect status. I don’t know the exact number for Pfaadt, but he’s either lost prospect status already or is a few days away. Do you hate every Cubs prospect? It seems like every interaction I’ve had with you has been you arguing against prospects. Cade Horton is elite. Enjoy it man. It’s okay to get excited about a prospect. Every great player was once a prospect somewhere in the minor leagues. Horton is climbing super fast, he’s better than many ahead of him, scouts love him. He should be just as untouchable as PCA. He’s hands down a top 5 pitching prospect in baseball, and very likely #3 as we sit here today.
  19. Have you been keeping up? He’s rising like a rocket on prospect lists daily. Just to be easy and use MLB Pipeline, he’s #45 overall and the #8 SP prospect in all of baseball. I won’t go through every pitcher ahead of him and why, be my guest to do your own research, but I will list who I think Horton is probably better than. Owen White, Mick Abel, Brandon Pfaadt is in the big leagues and has been for a minute, Kyle Harrison, Gavin Williams in the big leagues and has thrown almost 40 innings. That puts Horton at around the #3 SP prospect in baseball behind Painter and Tiedmann.
  20. Horton is as untouchable for me as PCA. I think Horton is definitely top 5, and maybe higher than that, starting pitching prospect in all of baseball. I’m not giving that up for a reliever. Nope. Not happening. Only guys I’m trading a PCA or Horton for is a Juan Soto type of player.
  21. I’m not trading anybody out of our top 10 for a closer. If it was Pete Alonso, then yes.. have anybody not named PCA or Horton. But Bednar? No thanks. Great pitcher, but pass. Triantos or Ballesteros would be about as high as I would go prospect wise as the headliner.
  22. Yeah the asking price would have to be sky high. Multiple years of control left. Bednar is good, but I’m not giving up Alcantara, Caissie, Wicks, Ferris or any of those guys up for him.
  23. God forbid the Chicago Cubs go over that scary luxury tax.
  24. Right. That wasn’t my point, but yes you’re right. If Happ needs an off day, it should be against a lefty. I’m saying he’s hot right now. Against lefties and righties. When Happ gets hot, he can carry a team for 2-3 week stretches. We’ve seen it time and time again with him. If Jed knows what he wants to do and the outcomes of today and tomorrow don’t matter, then fine give him an off day. I was taking his “11th hour” comment from just recently at face value, which would make this an absolutely weird day to give Ian an off day.
  25. So what’s the path here? Couple bullpen arms and let it ride? What are we going to do at 1B? Mancini needs to go. He’s been god awful. Do they give Mervis another shot? Will they target some patchwork 1B in a trade? Riding with Madrigal at 3rd? The only rumor I’ve seen is the Cubs are now buying and will target bullpen help.
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