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Nobody is saying “give Morel away for whatever you can get.” He’s more valuable to a team where he can play 2B than he is for the Cubs playing DH. If he can be a headliner for a Soto or Bichette type trade, or for a young SP, then yes, absolutely trade him. If he’s on the Chicago Cubs in 2024, nobody is going to be mad. I’m not sure where you’re getting this whole “Morel is undervalued” schtick.
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We have enough money to spend and prospect capital that we shouldn’t be creating a hole to fix another (i.e. trading Steele). Morel is a different story. He doesn’t have a position, but has more value to other teams than he does for us. So if he gets traded, I’m okay with that one. I just don’t think there’s many, if any, scenarios where trading a guy like Steele or Hoerner makes sense.
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I mean there’s this, but surely nobody believes this? It’s not real lol
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Not happening and even if it did, that’s not enough.
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Pipe dream. Makes zero sense for the Royals. Look at it from their perspective… they have PLENTY of time to try and build around him and win before they have to make the decision to trade him. They also refused to trade Merrifield when everybody wanted him and they had no path to winning and for whatever reason held on to him until he lost all his value really.
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Not a guy we’ve been connected to yet, but a guy that makes sense with the Counsell connection and obvious need.
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Same haha
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Doesn’t necessarily mean it’s the Mets just because he said that. Interesting though. Definitely has my antennas up
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Before we make this a big deal, we can just agree to disagree to save both of us time going back and forth. I think one thing and you think another. I think, as long as no wrenches are thrown into it (like shorter term higher AAV), then Ohtani is going to pick where he signs based on where he wants to be and not because somebody outbid the other by 20, 30, 40 whatever million dollars. I think the money is going to be basically the same by all the finalist.
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You used Bogaerts as an example, not me. For players like Bogaerts, there is most definitely a cutoff going into their free agency where you’re just not comfortable going there. We agree Ohtani is different. Teams that are seriously interested in signing Ohtani aren’t going to back out over $50M. If LA offers Ohtani $500M and Ohtani tells Jed to match it and he will come to Chicago, do you think Jed/Tom is going to say “no thanks, enjoy LA?” Absolutely not. That’s much more likely to happen with a player like Bogaerts, Swanson, Machado caliber players. If you want Ohtani, you automatically know that it’s likely costing you $4-500M. You’re not backing out on him due to, what’s at that point, not that much money… $50M over 10 years is not that big of a deal. Definitely not enough to pass on Ohtani.
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Bogaerts and Ohtani aren’t the same though. Some may have been interested in Bogaerts at 8/200 for example, but decided to pass when it got to 11/280. Ohtani is a once in a lifetime type player. I seriously doubt teams that are seriously in this say “I’ll give you $450M, but $500M is just too much. I’m out.” If you’re willing to pay up for Ohtani from the jump, then you’re very aware of the ballpark range of what you will potentially be spending.
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Yes. The value his bat adds is being lost by his defense. That’s why he’s a 1 fWAR player. Being a DH, he doesn’t lose the value he’d lose by playing the field. I don’t know if he won a GG or not, but this year at 1B he was -6 DRS and -13 OAA.
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I would give up a top 10 prospect if Vlad is going to DH. If you tell me we also sign Ohtani and we can get Vlad, but he has to play 1B, then I would find it hard to give up a top 10 prospect for a 1 fWAR first baseman. Agree on the bat… it’s awesome.
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Take the name off the back of his jersey, and Vladdy isn’t all that appealing. He’s also approaching DH only territory as he’s an awful first baseman. Would I want him in a trade? Yes. Would I give up any prospect in our top 10 for him? Probably not. Bichette > Vlad all day everyday.
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Heyman saying Padres want 2 top 100 prospects for Soto. Side note: These comments never make sense to me. That theoretically could mean the #92 and #93 prospect while somebody else could offer the #26 and #39 prospect. Every org is going to have their own rankings anyways. Do the Padres want near ready bats? Near ready arms? Best player available regardless of how far away they are from the bigs? So again, 2 top 100 prospects tells me nothing… or tells me Heyman doesn’t know anything.
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I don’t know his arm strength at 3rd since obviously there’s no data on him throwing from there, but plenty of notable guys have relatively weak arms from 3B. I’m sure he would be fine there. I mean Ke’Bryan Hayes only averages 81 mph at 3rd and he’s elite defensively. Bichette had a max of 91 MPH from SS this year, so he obviously has enough juice to let it go a bit if he needs to. It’s not good by any means, but I wouldn’t be too worried about it.
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Morel and PCA probably get it done… or very close to it. That also depends on what the Blue Jays want. Maybe they want Horton instead of PCA. Or PCA and Brown. We just don’t know.
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I would do Morel and PCA in a heartbeat for Bichette.
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Maybe we laughed at the random guy on Twitter too quickly. This seems real
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Poor wording on my part. I know what I wrote but didn’t mean it that way. Y’all have still blown this way out of proportion. This has gotten annoyingly old quick though. Y’all can keep beating a dead horse if you’d like… over a nothing comment. I’d rather use the thread for actual Ohtani updates now.
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Same. We’ve gotten a few rumblings, but for the most part it’s been really quiet.
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Right. That’s all I was trying to say. Wasn’t trying to get into an argument with somebody about it. Sometimes teams add money to the contract to somewhat offset that issue and sometimes we never hear about that. It’s likely a very marginal thing and hardly ever a deciding factor, but I’m sure it’s a part of negotiations a lot, meaning it is something. Losing millions of dollars is never a “nothing burger.” Not even to millionaires.
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“As his agent, Scott Boras noted, it didn’t hurt Philadelphia’s chances that its highest marginal tax rate was about 10 percent less than the 13.3 rate Harper would have faced in California.” Jesus man. Nobody is saying Cali state taxes is the deciding factor EVER. I made one little comment that said “it’s not nothing.” It doesn’t matter. It was a tongue in cheek comment. I literally just gave you an example of a super star player whose agent mentioned it.
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https://x.com/bnightengale/status/1726278758615965723?s=46&t=iRdezfuJVGBU0wPvMftX0w
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Also it wasn’t a nothing burger for Bryce Harper. He didn’t sign with the Giants due to California state taxes.
