I don't want to jump into the middle of this, but I take exception of comparing manager of year awards to the gold gloves. Yes, the gold gloves have become a joke in recent years because they seem to be rewarding offense and reputation more than actual defensive skills. But if you look at the past managers of the year, they really do deserve the honors for their accomplishments. This isn't like awarding it to Joe Torre every year because the Yankees made the playoffs. People like Bobby Cox the past two years for the NL, and Ozzie and Buck Showalter (2005 and 2004, respectively) really did good jobs as manager and led their teams to a higher caliber of play. Okay, carry on with your discussion.