[expletive] up shoulder? He had inflammation a while back. Dude's out pitch is a changeup. He's still a pitcher, at the other side of, or near the end of, his prime. And I don't think it's realistic to think he'd be anything more than a 4 WAR value, at market rates, as others have said. And I was stating a pitcher's floor in general, not just for Hamels. Like I said, I'm not opposed to trading Castro at all. Just not for Hamels.