It is the ugly side of the boards showing which is part of the reason I do not post much here. Cubs get a great team win 8-0 over Houston and people are tearing each other to shreds over Z's extra 10 pitches. Not that it is not a worthy discussion but I think it should carry on in it's own thread on Baseball Discussions rather than here. Personally, I was surprised Z was able to escape the 8th without further damage. Probably he should have been pulled but he managed to fight through it without further damage. When he started falling behind badly to every batter I knew he was pitching on the edge. It's a great win, everyone came out healthy, difference of opinion happen. Meh, I don't get it sometimes. I agree with you in the sense that it seemed like Z started to lose it a bit in the eighth inning and that's why I would have taken him out after he lost the no hitter.