Are you on a quest to have crappy pitching? Marquis and Meche are not good. "Not good" is being far too kind. They're pretty horrid. I can see cases for Westbrook, Lilly, Padilla... but Meche, Marquis, and Batista should be nowhere near a pro ball club (except for the cardinals). Batista has been pretty good. Marquis has been pretty good at times, but stunk last year. Meche, well, he's been below average. But none of them are horrid and all deserve starting jobs. Just to make a small defense of Marquis, if you take out the two games (against the White Sox on 6-21 and the Braves on 7-19) his ERA drops from 6.02 to 5.12. Now, I do realize that taking out certain games to make your point better is usually wrong but I feel this is an exception because in those two games Marquis was left in the game much longer than he would have been. LaRussa was saving the bullpen since the Cardinals were blown out the day before each of those games. Marquis pitched 5 innings in each start.