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Yay, Lewis with an XBH. Time to heat back up, Hollywood. Colvin with 2 XBHs too, including the GW HR in the 8th.

Campusano is the clear cut winner. I'd say Mendez is well deserving of 2nd place and Rapada and Avery are close for third.

You're fired. :wink: FINE! I didn't even want to work herE! I'm going to CubsClub.net! :storms off: :P

Whoops, between that and calling Mesa "Peoria," I'm making mistakes all over the map today. I expect he will eventually adjust...I'm just impatient and thought he had already adjusted after his last start. :P Interesting point about wearing down mid-season...he started to struggle this time last year (I think it was this time of the year) in Peoria too.

I think Petrick is ready to return to the MWL or FSL... 5 IP, 1 ER, 7 Ks/2 BBs...surprisingly he had 5 flyouts to 1 groundout. His ERA on the season is 2.10 in 25.2 IP.

Who's really the competition? BP, Scout.com sites and specific individuals like Sickels, I guess. There's not much there, but BA has set the bar high.

BA had Harvey ranked 7th in the Cubs system going into the season...seems about right. It's an indictment of the quality of the system itself. BA definitely has its flaws, but it's still the best in the business.

Sean Gallagher's walk rate at West Tenn is of concern... 23 BBs, 36 Ks. Really aided by his previous start where he had 10 Ks.

Awesome!

I really do hope this is the market for relievers.

Peoria lost 8-7. Astroga gave up 2 R (1 ER) in the 8th for the loss.

I went last night, July 5th. What did you think of Scott Taylor from what you saw? Also, their closer last night was Matt Avery, who's been lights out down there. Sorry, I don't remember Scott Taylor. Was he the starter that night. As I said earlier, no one really impressed me other than the closer; but, again, that's the first Chiefs' game I went to and I don't follow the minors at all. I do remember the starter getting hammered, but getting out of jams. Clinton's pitcher looked really good,but left after like 5 innings. I don't know why he was taken out because he wasn't in trouble. The Chiefs then pretty much hit Clinton's bullpen. Taylor was the starter for Peoria. His line that day was: 6 IP, 6H, 1 ER, 1/3 K/BB, WP. Clinton might have taken out their pitcher due to pitch count concerns...

Wow, that's ridiculous. I agree with goony...imagine what Willamson, Howry, Eyre or Dempster could net in this market.

Mesa is up 6-5 in the 7th inning. Renshaw went 2, gave up 2 ER on 3 H and a walk. Donald Walters then came in and went 3, giving up 3 more ER. Albuqerque went the next 2, giving up 1 ER on 1 H, striking out 3 and walking one. Cody Gilbert has a solo HR - it's only the second HR for Mesa all season. Gilbert is 3 for 4 with 3 RBI.

Actually Renshaw is starting for Mesa (0-0, 0.00 ERA, 2 IP, 2/0, 1.50 WHIP). Whoops.

Poor Berg. :(

:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D I gotta agree with Outshined too. He's struggled in WT, but it's only been 48 ABs. Nic Jackson is close, but he's doing it at A+ and AA at age 26. Fuld is third, I really didn't expect his OPS to be that high.

so what????? Its the only reason we play the games!!! If wins didnt matter, Dusty wouldnt be on your guys' hot seat. If wins didnt matter we wouldn't play.... Yes, wins are good. But not a good way to evaluate a pitcher. A pitcher's W-L record and his teams' W-L record in his starts aren't basd on just what the pitcher does. It also consider's the team's offense, bullpen, etc. Why not use other stats that are more dependent on the pitcher himself?

How do you figure? um lets see. 1. More wins doesn't matter 2. lower era incorrect 3. less walks 4. less hits allowed incorrect 5. lewss homers allowed incorrect 6. more ground ball outs 7. more team wins in his starts doesn't matter 8. much more consistent is that enough or should i keep going for you? Veal gave up fewer runs and baserunners, and struck out many more. He walked more, but his K/BB ratio was better too. You can see the numbers here. apparently i should have qualified my answer with WHEN VEAL LEFT.....or maybe you have seen all their starts this season....? When you are trying to figure who was best in the entire first half, why randomly cut off Atkins' numbers? We're already ignoring that Veal went to the next level and didn't give up a run for 20 IP(or whatever it was). There's no point in disregarding Atkins' performance after Veal was promoted. If you read the posts, I said that Atkins was the Chiefs best pitcher in the first half.....thats why you cut off the stats there....unlike others, i try not to evaluate guys that I don't see in person....thats why baseball america sucks.... Since they rely on scouts and managers who actually see the players? They're right more often than they're wrong and are the best at the business.

Go Petrick!

Probable Starters: Iowa: RHP Angel Guzman (2-4, 4.62 ERA, 48.2 IP, 52/14, 1.25 WHIP) @ RHP Jeff Fulchino (2-5, 3.69 ERA) West Tenn: RHP Sean Gallagher (4-1, 2.43 ERA, 29.2 IP, 31/17, 1.38 WHIP) @ RHP Jack Cassel (0-0, 2.25 ERA) Daytona: RHP Justin Berg (6-6, 4.58 ERA, 92.1 IP, 75/45, 1.58 WHIP) Peoria: LHP Jesus Yepez (4-4, 3.35 ERA, 86 IP, 45/43, 1.42 WHIP) vs. LHP Jose Escalona (4-8, 4.98 ERA) Boise: RHP Billy Petrick (3-0, 2.18 ERA, 20.2 IP, 12/6, 4 HBP, 1.16 WHIP) vs. RHP T.J. Franco (1-0, 1.17 ERA) Mesa: RHP Alberto Albuquerque (0-1, 6.00 ERA, 6 IP, 8/5, 1.83 WHIP)

I guess this sort of fits in here: And on top of that, Pawelek has not done well at Boise.

They start playing night games later in the summer, when it starts getting blisteringly hot in AZ with random rain storms popping up infrequently. Arizona's monsoon storms have long started already (heck, a few drifted over to the LA area a few weeks ago!) - it's normally better to get the games in the morning during monsoon season since the storms really get going with the help of the sun during the afternoons and evenings.

Only 1 K in 2.2 for Campusano? He's slipping!

How do you figure? um lets see. 1. More wins doesn't matter 2. lower era incorrect 3. less walks 4. less hits allowed incorrect 5. lewss homers allowed incorrect 6. more ground ball outs 7. more team wins in his starts doesn't matter 8. much more consistent is that enough or should i keep going for you? Veal gave up fewer runs and baserunners, and struck out many more. He walked more, but his K/BB ratio was better too. You can see the numbers here. apparently i should have qualified my answer with WHEN VEAL LEFT.....or maybe you have seen all their starts this season....? So I went through and tabulated Atkins' stats at the time of Veal's promotion: Mitch Atkins: 72.1 IP, 53 H, 5 HR, 68 K/25 BB, 2.24 ERA 1.08 WHIP, .196 BAA Donnie Veal: 73.2 IP, 45 H, 4 HR, 86 K/40 BB, 2.69 ERA, 1.15 WHIP, .169 BAA To go over Nathan's list: 1. More wins: Yes, Atkins had 6 and Veal had 5 (though I think this is a poor stat to judge a pitcher). 2. lower era - Yes, 2.24 to 2.69. 3. less walks - Yes, 25 to 40. Of course Veal has the K advantage. 4. less hits allowed - No, Veal had 45 Hs, Atkins 53. 5. lewss homers allowed - No, Veal had 4 HR to Atkins 5 6. more ground ball outs - Not going to look it up but I'm sure Atkins wins this in a landslide. 7. more team wins in his starts - Eh, so what? 8. much more consistent - I guess...though in the stat line I showed above, Veal was better than Atkins in 4 out of 7 categories. So, of the corrections TT made to your list based on Atkins' current stats, he was only wrong on the ERAs at the time of Veal's promotion.