Transmogrified Tiger

Respect for Murton. Make them pay Rich.

I'm waiting for many here to start overvaluing Jay Payton since he's been acquired by Kevin Towers, Theo Epstein, and Billy Beane the past two years. on a more serious note, Jacques Jones just set his career mark for BBs in a season with about 60 games left, and in a year that his teams offense is down. you would think he'd be losing patience in that situation, but he seems to be gaining. while he's not on the top of my wish list, if he could duplicate what he has done this year for a couple seasons at Wrigley, I wouldn't mind. If Patterson is dealt, I wouldn't mind giving him a look in center, depending on the contract.

C'mon Ramirez, slow roller like that you gotta go to first.

I think I'm already tired of this ump's strike call.

Hendry interview in the 2nd inning.

I want it to happen, you want it to happen, but we all know that it won't happen. The organization seems to like the guy as a 25th man. Yeah, the guy hitting .283 off the bench is just killing this team. If Macias was used like a 25th man should be it wouldn't be a problem. He comes into games way too soon. It probably only seems that way. At 92 AB's through 103 games it would be hard to play him much less. Everyone says Cedeno is rotting on the bench but he has 50 AB's. I don't know what his total games have been on the active roster but I would think that his AB's as a percentage of games he has been on the team are higher than Macias. Not sure about that - someone would need to check the numbers. Macias has 99 PA's in 103 games. Cedeno has 53 PA's in 54 games. The percentage is just about the same. So Cedeno's is the same or barely higher yet the perception is that Cedeno has been left rotting on the bench and Macias is used too much to be considered a true 25th man. I think that's because Macias gets a much larger portion of his AB's coming off the bench, while Cedeno's PT comes in a once a week start with a PH or two if the bench(including Macias) has already been exhausted.

Macias has been pulled? :shock: Wonder where he's headed? Macias was a scratch? Rotoworld said yesterday that the Cubs were going to rest Aramis' sore quad the rest of the weekend. Ramirez said in his post-game interview that he was going to be ready to go for today.

I want it to happen, you want it to happen, but we all know that it won't happen. The organization seems to like the guy as a 25th man. Yeah, the guy hitting .283 off the bench is just killing this team. If Macias was used like a 25th man should be it wouldn't be a problem. He comes into games way too soon. It probably only seems that way. At 92 AB's through 103 games it would be hard to play him much less. Everyone says Cedeno is rotting on the bench but he has 50 AB's. I don't know what his total games have been on the active roster but I would think that his AB's as a percentage of games he has been on the team are higher than Macias. Not sure about that - someone would need to check the numbers. Macias has 99 PA's in 103 games. Cedeno has 53 PA's in 54 games. The percentage is just about the same.

Actually, in this lineup I think Murton fits in well in front of the pitcher. Murton is more likely than Perez to turn over the lineup by getting on base thus allowing the pitcher to hit or sacrifice. Another benefit of Neifi batting 7th is if he can get on base Matt can potentially drive him in. Conversely, Neifi has the lowest OBP of all the regulars so there is a greater chance that the pitcher will leadoff more often. All things being equal, you don't want Neifi batting 8th. I've heard these theories before and I don't buy any of them. The advantages of dumping someone like Neifi in the 8 hole easily outweigh the disadvantages IMO. There is a big advantage to turning over the lineup and allowing our 3,4,5 hitters more opportunities to bat. Considering Neifi's sub 300 OBP there is an outstanding chance that the pitcher will always leadoff. Additionally, it's more advantageous to keep our pitchers off the base paths even though most of them are decent hitters. I contend that its better to have the pitcher come up in a sacrifice situation... If you want to turn the lineup over more, then Murton should be hitting where he can get more PA's than Neifi. I don't buy the idea of keeping the pitcher off the basepaths. You're much more likely to waste runners that are on in the 7 hole by hitting Neifi than by hitting him 8th. Straight forward, you'll score more runs on the whole with Murton hitting in front of Neifi.

Actually, in this lineup I think Murton fits in well in front of the pitcher. Murton is more likely than Perez to turn over the lineup by getting on base thus allowing the pitcher to hit or sacrifice. Another benefit of Neifi batting 7th is if he can get on base Matt can potentially drive him in. Conversely, Neifi has the lowest OBP of all the regulars so there is a greater chance that the pitcher will leadoff more often. All things being equal, you don't want Neifi batting 8th. He's the worst hitter in the lineup. There's a much higher chance of Neifi stranding runners, which is more important than turning the lineup over, or getting on base for the 8 hitter. If Murton hits 7th, he's going to get more runners to drive in than in the 8 spot. Again, he's the worst hitter in the lineup(by far), he should be hitting in the lowest spot. The 7th slot is not considered an RBI position. That still doesn't explain why we should put an inferior hitter in that spot.

Actually, in this lineup I think Murton fits in well in front of the pitcher. Murton is more likely than Perez to turn over the lineup by getting on base thus allowing the pitcher to hit or sacrifice. Another benefit of Neifi batting 7th is if he can get on base Matt can potentially drive him in. Conversely, Neifi has the lowest OBP of all the regulars so there is a greater chance that the pitcher will leadoff more often. All things being equal, you don't want Neifi batting 8th. He's the worst hitter in the lineup. There's a much higher chance of Neifi stranding runners, which is more important than turning the lineup over, or getting on base for the 8 hitter. If Murton hits 7th, he's going to get more runners to drive in than in the 8 spot. Again, he's the worst hitter in the lineup(by far), he should be hitting in the lowest spot.

What in the world does BTAIM stand for? Be That As It May, according to Google.

I don't see how Reyes and Wainright is that much better than Hill and Mitre. Reyes and Hill are a tossup IMO, but Wainwright is much better than Mitre I think even with his arm problems. I'm curious to see why you think Wainwright is much better than Mitre. Mitre has had more success at the same level and age, and has been injury free.

I don't see how Reyes and Wainright is that much better than Hill and Mitre.

The Cards have 2 or 3 very good pitching prospects that were much more highly regarded than Hill. Wainright is the only name that comes to mind but Jocketty has shown he's not afraid to trade prospects for splash deals. See Haren, Dan & Isringhausen, Jason Reyes and Wainright. After that...they're one of the worst systems in the game.

It would be nice if Murton got to hit higher than Neifi in the lineup.

Well cancel out Shoppach and add Bigbie. Do they even have a place for him to play? I'd guess this definitely means Huff is gone for sure now. Bigbie's gonna be getting some sweet frequent flier miles this weekend. Whose reporting this by the way? Will Carroll of Baseball Prospectus. He says its Bigbie for Adam Stern and Shoppach. He was going off a newspaper report that said it wasn't final though. His article (which is premium content on BP) includes no such disclaimer and describes the deal in the past tense. Yeah, he edited it from the original post. This is the report that it originated from. Also, for those who want to know, there's no such thing as premium content on BP until August 3.

Well cancel out Shoppach and add Bigbie. Do they even have a place for him to play? I'd guess this definitely means Huff is gone for sure now. Bigbie's gonna be getting some sweet frequent flier miles this weekend. Whose reporting this by the way? Will Carroll of Baseball Prospectus. He says its Bigbie for Adam Stern and Shoppach. He was going off a newspaper report that said it wasn't final though.

Yes, but he's been great in July of this year, so maybe he bucks the trend this year.

If we trade Walker, Mitre, and Welly for Soriano, I'm going to throw something.

He's probably finding the cure for cancer or working for NASA if he's no longer in the minor leagues.

To each their own. I have no problem with the scoreboard, and would not if someone here posted something similar about the Sox. However, I do see a lot of signatures regarding all Sox fans as trash, drunks, etc. That sort of thing is just silly to me. A lot? I can recall one, that's a quote insinuating about Sox fans.

On balance, now. Put it this way. There is as much dislike for the Cubs there as there is for the Sox here. Neither has an "obsession". Obviously there are plenty of barbs towards some of our... lets say... more tatooed fans. SoxTalk does have an obsession, if you can wade through the posts of people who just like to see swear words on their screen for the sake of seeing swear words on their screen. Like I said before, compare WSI to NSBB. See how many icons, sigs, avatars, usernames, and threads are devoted to being against the other team. It's not even close.

Stealing bandwidth J.R.? How could you? :lmao: