Transmogrified Tiger

Yeah, too bad you couldn't be on base that often, Neifi. I like my sig better.

How do you figure? Michigan won fair and square Carr complained and they unjustly added two seconds to the clock. Time doesn't stop when the team calls timeout, it stops when the official calls it. Michigan won the game on a play with one second left.

I bet he hates it though.

You've done this before. No one ever advocated that team any more than anyone advocated a team of C Blanco 1B Karros 2B Jose Hernandez SS Neifi 3B Lenny Harris LF Todd Hollandsworth CF Tom Goodwin RF Burnitz Yes they have. I'd really like to see where.

You've done this before. No one ever advocated that team any more than anyone advocated a team of C Blanco 1B Karros 2B Jose Hernandez SS Neifi 3B Lenny Harris LF Todd Hollandsworth CF Tom Goodwin RF Burnitz

I feel sorrier for us Cubs fans, who have to put up with a managment team that's apparently so abysmally stupid that it thinks Neifi Perez is more productive and valuable than Todd Walker. I don't think anybody in the Cubs organization was hiding the fact that they wanted to trade Todd Walker this winter. I'm not saying that I agree with it, but you couldn't watch a game on any channel where the announcers didn't mention how bad the Cubs wanted to improve defensively on the infield. Neifi as awful as he is offensively, does represent an upgrade defensively. However committing to Neifi, puts Hendry a position in which he must try to score big with a SS, CF, and RF. Otherwise the Cub's already low scoring offense is going to be in worse shape. Neifi played 150 games last year. He's at best treading water defensively, since he had a career year defensively. The Cubs were very good defensively this past year, 3rd in the NL in DER if memory serves. I don't want to pick a fight with you over your use of Stats, but this maybe on of those times that your citing of stats is useless. Anybody who watched a game last year knows that the Cubs were not good defensively. Just as anybody who watched the Cubs last year knows that Neifi played a good to great defensive SS. I agree that Neifi was a poor signing but to say Neifi is treading water defensively is utterly ridiculous. The numbers say the Cubs were a good defensive team last year. I'd rather trust that imperfect measure than my own selective memory, especially since I saw very little of other teams defensively. About Neifi treading water, I think you misconstrued what I was saying. Neifi is a good defender at short, and was great defensively last year. Therefore, him returning isn't an improvement, it's staying the same, treading water. Much like Lee coming back next year isn't an upgrade offensively, since he was already there all of last year.

I feel sorrier for us Cubs fans, who have to put up with a managment team that's apparently so abysmally stupid that it thinks Neifi Perez is more productive and valuable than Todd Walker. I don't think anybody in the Cubs organization was hiding the fact that they wanted to trade Todd Walker this winter. I'm not saying that I agree with it, but you couldn't watch a game on any channel where the announcers didn't mention how bad the Cubs wanted to improve defensively on the infield. Neifi as awful as he is offensively, does represent an upgrade defensively. However committing to Neifi, puts Hendry a position in which he must try to score big with a SS, CF, and RF. Otherwise the Cub's already low scoring offense is going to be in worse shape. Neifi played 150 games last year. He's at best treading water defensively, since he had a career year defensively. The Cubs were very good defensively this past year, 3rd in the NL in DER if memory serves.

That sounds far fetched. Really far fetched. But it's not unrealistic. Even though it's not out of the realm of possibility, I find it hard to believe that Hendry, who called Boras's bluff in the Brownlie negotiations at the risk of losing him, would fall for that type of ploy.

I had forgotten about D'Angelo. He would've been roughly a 54380129357 to the 34398th power better signing.

I wonder what Neifi will do for the talent portion of the contest. He's going to recreate Happy Gilmore's "happy place". He's got the body type and costume already.

The funny thing is that if CPatt was a FA & the Cubs signed him to a 2 yr 5 mil. contract, most people who have complained about the Neifi signing in this thread, would be very happy. The fact is Corey Patterson was much more of a liability to the Cubs possible success in 05'. Those people have favorites & ones they don't like no matter what they do on the field. It's childish & unknowledgable. Also, most of the complaining is pure speculation to begin with. No one on this board knows what JH is going to do the rest of the off-season. Rational people understand this & will @ least give JH the benefit of the doubt & see what the final product is opening day. I remain optimistic & really feel there will be some big moves by many teams including the Cubs this off-season. I guess I'm in the minority & I'm OK with that. Wow. First of all, that's false, many of the same people would be complaining if Patterson were signed to this deal. But since you insist on making these absurd comparisons between the two, here are the differences. Patterson is 5 years younger, Patterson plays a position where we don't have a major league ready player. Both were good defensively and both were among the worst hitters in the game(They may have been 1-2 by one metric). For Neifi, this was a career year. I'm going to repeat that. This pathetic offensive showing by Neifi was one of the best seasons of his career. This was the first season in which Patterson wasn't at least average for his position given age and playing time. That's why people are more prone to keep Patterson than Neifi. Because he's got age and past success on his side. But whatever, keep casting yourself as the voice of reason amongst the plague of pessimists, and accuse people of favoritism even though you've done the same thing you've accused people of. EDIT: Patterson and Perez are just under 7 years apart in age, not 5.

Are you sure they were talking about Bruce Miles and not Bruce Levine?

I love the new Jon. This thread needs some Neifury:

Definitely worth the click just to see the picture. EDIT: Google's translator gives the same impression you have, that it's 1 million in addition to the 2/5 deal.

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y44/cubsfan_05/images.jpg Tell him I hate him. Why the hate? It's a joke. Anyone who's ever seen the Futurama episode where they go to the slurm factory knows what I mean. "Who are those creatures?" "Why, those are the Grunka Lunkas." "Tell them I hate them!"

I was going to make a joke about Macias playing third, but even his fielding percentage at 3B sucks(24 errors in 151 games!).

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y44/cubsfan_05/images.jpg Tell him I hate him.

Ronny Cedeno should be the backup middle infielder.

There's a reason five organizations rid themselves of Milton Bradley, and it's not because of his baseball ability. Dumb move. Five organizations? Montreal traded him because they were getting Zach Day, both were good prospects at that point. Cleveland traded him because they had Sizemore coming and he was arbitration eligible, in addition to his off field problems. Bradley's only been with 3 organizations, and this would be the only one to get rid of him for solely behavioral issues.

Well, some good has come of this. I've never seen Jon so upset before. :P Seriously though, the only way you can ensure Neifi being a backup is by not starting Cedeno, which makes Neifi redundant unless you trade Cedeno. There's no logic to having Neifi on the team with Dusty around.

From today's ATM Report: 1) According to the Chicago Tribune, the Cubs have agreed to a 2 year contract for all time great run coster Neifi Perez. YEAR AGE RCAA OBA SLG OPS OWP RC/G AVG HR RBI SB G TEAM 2003 30 -20 .285 .348 .632 .279 3.05 .256 1 31 3 120 Giants 2004 31 -23 .296 .336 .632 .299 3.42 .255 4 39 1 126 Giants/Cubs 2005 32 -27 .298 .383 .681 .332 3.49 .274 9 54 8 154 Cubs CAR -329 .301 .380 .681 .289 3.86 .270 61 454 56 1262 LG AVG 0 .342 .433 .775 .500 5.23 .270 157 654 91 POS AVG -127 .324 .385 .709 .409 4.33 .263 89 500 108 The only question for Perez is whether he gets enough playing time in 2006 to set the record for worst career RCAA or whether he has to wait until early 2007. 1 Ski Melillo -355 2 Tommy Thevenow -351 3 Neifi Perez -329 4 Bill Bergen -312 5 Tim Foli -309 6 Larry Bowa -307 7 Alfredo Griffin -306 T8 Don Kessinger -305 T8 Ozzie Guillen -305 10 Ed Brinkman -300 In 2005, Perez set the major league record for most consecutive years with -20 or worse RCAA-- 1 Neifi Perez 1998-05 8 2 Doug Flynn 1977-83 7 T3 Bill Bergen 1901-06 6 T3 George McBride 1911-16 6 T3 Wally Gerber 1919-24 6 T3 Rabbit Warstler 1932-37 6 T3 Hal Lanier 1965-70 6 T8 Tommy Corcoran 1902-06 5 T8 Everett Scott 1920-24 5 T8 Frank O'Rourke 1926-30 5 T8 Rabbit Maranville 1929-33 5 T8 Ski Melillo 1932-36 5 T8 Ed Brinkman 1963-67 5 T8 Alfredo Griffin 1980-84 5 T8 Andres Thomas 1986-90 5

Trading Cedeno is the only way this move can be half-justified. Otherwise you're either overloading an already short bench(hooray 12 pitchers!) with strictly middle infielders, or you're setting up a Neifi/Cedeno for one spot. If the latter is the case, they'll start in a platoon to break Cedeno in, and Ronny will outproduce Neifi. Dusty will say that this is part of the plan, and wait until Neifi completely breaks down to play Cedeno everyday. At the slightest sign of struggle, Dusty will put Neifi back in, and Cedeno will be lucky to see the platoon role. We saw it with Choi/Karros, we saw it with Hollandsworth/Dubois, and we saw it last year with Cedeno/Neifi. Why would this be any different?

Since birth.

Murton whom JH did trade for. Oh never mind! Sorry, boys! I didn't mean to ruin the pessimist party. Wow, get over yourself dude.

I came to a horrifying realization this morning that Hendry is like Bowden-lite. Both make pretty good trades. Hendry's(Barrett, Lee, Ramirez, Nomar) bring in better talent, but Bowden(Guillen, Lawrence, Wilson, Byrd, Nomar?) gets talent for next to nothing as well. Both have been terrible with Free Agent contracts, Bowden's(Castilla, Guzman) being worse than Hendry's(Maddux, Remlinger, Neifi).