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  1. Transmogrified Tiger
    how many ab's did jeff bagwell have in the minors to prove he couldn't hit for power? Well, I guess you could bring up the one exception when there are hundreds of examples otherwise. Koronka had the best season of his career that was on par with one of Mitre's worst, and he's a year older than Mitre. I'd be really interested to see what Koronka's GB/FB ratio is. Because if he doesn't get ground balls, then there's not much hope for sustained success, since he doesn't K a lot of guys, and has pedestrian stuff. EDIT: Bagwell only had 731 AB's total in the minors, that's not much at all for an entire minor league career. actually he is just the first one off the top of my head. guys like moyer & tewksberry were horrible in the majors until they were in their late 20's. ryan sandberd didnt have a spectacular minor leauge career either but he did pretty well in his major leauge career. i bet albert puljos didnt have any where near his major leauge #'s in his minor leauge career. Pujols had a .921 Minor League OPS reaching every level before age 21. Both Moyer and Tewksbury had good to great minor league numbers. I don't understand why we're trying to make Koronka out to be the exception to the rule here. He hasn't impressed at any level, he's 25, he doesn't have great stuff, and he was terrible in his short stint in the big leagues. EDIT: Sandberg's minor league numbers are pretty similar to his career numbers, and like Pujols he did it at a very young age.
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    Brad Smith just became the all-time leading rusher for a QB. Mizzou in the red zone down 7-0 w/ 3:30 left in the 1st. EDIT: Smith connects with Franklin for the TD. Crossett misses the PAT. Infuriating.
  3. Transmogrified Tiger
    how many ab's did jeff bagwell have in the minors to prove he couldn't hit for power? Well, I guess you could bring up the one exception when there are hundreds of examples otherwise. Koronka had the best season of his career that was on par with one of Mitre's worst, and he's a year older than Mitre. I'd be really interested to see what Koronka's GB/FB ratio is. Because if he doesn't get ground balls, then there's not much hope for sustained success, since he doesn't K a lot of guys, and has pedestrian stuff. EDIT: Bagwell only had 731 AB's total in the minors, that's not much at all for an entire minor league career.
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    To me it doesn't really matter. Koronka is terrible, he doesn't belong on our roster. 13 AFL innings don't change what he's proven over 936 minor league IP.
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    I go to school close enough to Kansas City, DeJesus is good, Sisco's over there, it couldn't be that bad. Or at least any worse than Neifi getting a two year contract. At least it's Rosenthal.
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    Not if you are a Cubs fan. It's all relative brah. Hey mods, how much is premium, and is the price worth it for the ignore list alone? 5 bucks a month, or 50 bucks for a year. The latter I can't help you with.
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    That sounds like a Dusty quote. Taking a chance and giving a few promising rookies in the lineup some playing time seemed to have worked out alright last year for Atlanta. The only difference is that the guys that we're suggesting to put in there hit over .300 in their first year in the majors, albeit in limited playing time. I would feel more comfortable with both of them in the lineup if we had good to great production in those other positions, but I wouldn't say that I don't like having them both in there if we don't. If we don't have good to great production in those positions, it's likely we won't contend anyways, so why not give the kids some playing time and let them develop? We don't have the Braves system. It's one thing to let the kids play when its April and all we've done is resigned Neifi and Burnitz. It's quite another thing to plan on two unknowns who don't have more than one year of great minor league production to start on an offense that was subpar to begin with, at the beginning of the offseason.
  8. Transmogrified Tiger
    Who would you prefer? Between having either Murton or Cedeno? Murton.
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    ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
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    I don't see any way that is possible. Being serious, and not trying to stir things up here. Yes, Wrigley is older, and it's one of the crown jewels of baseball. I love watching games there. That said, Busch has been the host of 6 World Series and more playoff games than I can count without looking it up. It has been the destination for millions of fans from a multi state region. It was a centerpiece in the mid sixties downtown revitalization of St. Louis. I don't want to start another who is better than who debate, but you can't say thay Busch doesn't have an amazing 40 year history. There's no doubt about any of that, but claiming it has more history than a landmark ballpark that has been around twice as long might be a little much IMO.
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    He was a super-two, and I'm not positive if that means he reaches Free Agency a year earlier or if he gets a 4th year of arbitration. If it's the former he's a FA after '06, the latter after '07.
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    Of course you'd have way more reason to be sad about Wrigley. Busch isn't exactly the baseball mecca that Wrigley is. Busch isn't as old, but probably holds more memories than Wrigley does. Do you just look to start arguments, or do you actually believe the stuff you type.... Are you serious, or blind? THAT is what started it, wouldn't you say? And yet I'm accused of "trolling", and "driveling". Some of you only see what you want to. First of all, that's not an outrageous statement by any stretch. And secondly, your fellow Cardinals fan said it.
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    I agree 100%. Would you be ok with Furcal, Abreu and Preston Wilson? I don't like Wilson, but Abreu might make up for that some. I'd rather see Bradley, Wilkerson, Clark, Michaels, GMJ, or Church in CF.
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    I don't like Murton and Cedeno in the same lineup unless we have good to great production from SS, RF, and CF.
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    Nolasco had a subpar 40 IP in AAA at age 21, then performed great in AA at age 22. Marmol, who's stuff isn't that much better than Nolasco, performed slightly worse than Nolasco in the same league at the same age(Nolasco is several months younger overall, although Marmol is newer to pitching). What makes Nolasco trade fodder and Marmol a keeper?
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    Meh, he's only marginally better than Fontenot.
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    I didn't quite understand that. Are you saying Young is not as good a QB as the others because is more of a runner? I did like your ranking a lot, it just seems to me that there is more to being a QB than just passing. That of course will not translate into what you did, which is fine, but I do think it should translate into the Heisman. No, I was saying that Young isn't nearly as good a passer as most of the others, and his running ability(a definite plus) doesn't bridge the gap enough to make him as good overall. I agree that there's more than passing. I was just trying to get something that quantified passing(which is most important of the factors IMO) when having a debate about the different top QBs.
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    Look who's talking Mr. esoteric. :wink: Another point on chemistry. I've played on competitive baseball teams where I didn't like many of the players on the team. When we were winning, I never had a problem with anyone, and we'd joke around and stuff and everything was great. When things weren't going so well, let's just say that people were less congenial towards everyone, friend or foe. Winning breeds "chemistry".
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    Only 2 years of service? he pitched 22 games in 2003 He'll be under 3 years, he only had 1.120 going into this year.
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    If(when?) his AVG drops, then his HR and 2B will have to drop, unless by some miracle all his lost hits are singles. You justify trading Lee because what you get in return is greater than what you give. For example, I suggested in a 3 team deal trading Lee and Walker for Bradley, Drew, and Castillo. Castillo is superior to Walker, Drew is likely to equal if not surpass Lee's production next year(this is just putting names to production levels, so disregard Drew's injuries when evaluating this hypothetically), and Bradley is a superb offensive and defensive CF. The team is better offensively because of a trade of Lee in that scenario. You don't trade away one of the best all-around players in the game for an oft-injured player and a borderline nut. Yes, Castillo's superior to Walker, but Lee and Walker should get you more. Again, read the part in parentheses. It was an example to match the production levels we'd want to get in return with a name.
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    I agree with this. Especially since I've heard from a couple Phillies fans that Abreu doesn't hit in the clutch and his swing was messed up the entire second half from the home run derby. When is Zambrano scheduled to become a FA? Abreu hits "in the clutch". He had a poor second half by his standards, and that's apparently causing some things to be said about him(much like A-Rod) that simply aren't true. Zambrano is a Free Agent after the 2007 season.
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    Is that in reference to your finding, or the Heisman voting? My "ranking" which was supposed to give a little perspective on who should be the best, which translates to the Heisman. Obviously I'm not going to go nuts claiming Brohm should be the runaway winner, but he deserves more recognition than he's getting, and as a passer Young deserves less. What I meant by the bolded is that Young is so far down the list in passing aspects that his running game probably isn't enough in my mind to overcome that deficit.
  23. Transmogrified Tiger
    Vizquel got it by name as Jack Wilson was more deserving. Wilson had Vizquel by high margins in Range Factor and Zone Rating. He also was involved in a whopping FORTY-FIVE more double plays than Vizquel. My ballot at SS would have been: 1. Jack 2. Neifi 3. Vizquel I would have given it to Khalil Greene. That guy is a human vacuum cleaner whenever anyone hits a ball between 2nd and 3rd. What about Reyes? He seems to take away a hit every game I see. BP has Reyes as a below average defensively. 96 rate and 7 runs below average
  24. Transmogrified Tiger
    The strength of our system has been in it's depth of quality prospects, not it's number of top prospects. Therefore, when several are ineffective or have down years, the organizational ranking will dip.
  25. Transmogrified Tiger
    No, there isn't any rushing numbers involved up there. In Young's case, he's got some great rushing numbers, but he's hurt beyond the point where he attempts fewer passes. He's second to last in passing attempts, but has thrown the most interceptions. He's last in completion percentage, despite having fewer passes to sustain a high rate. So in the end, Young should be higher, but the above illustrates that he is pretty inferior as a passer that should keep him out of the running for the top spot. On the other hand, without looking up Vick's numbers, strong running numbers from him might propel him up to where he would be closer to the top spot.
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